When will BM be fun for me?

Julian - Dreamweaver

*facepalm*

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Julian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Also...Best thing I can think of is... well, a one-weapon BM can max skills easier at lower levels(say around my level) than an all-weapon one. I've almost maxed all of my current skills, while if I were leveling an all-weapon BM, I'd have come about half way.

so you cant think of anything usefull

Also, one-weapon builds are capable of having a different stat build than an all-weapon BM, which is almost entirely limited to 3str/2dex. Show me a 4.5 str all-wep BM, or a 1.5 vit BM. I'm not saying those are optimal builds, but being an all-wep BM does limit build options, skills excluded(eventually, when you max out every sage or demon version of every skill)

stat flexibility and armor freedom really only apply to the axe path...in heavy armor

Not that I care about doing anything better than anyone. I'm not trying to be competitive here.
so why are you argueing?

seriously just say "hey 99.9% of pwi finds me useless but i'm ok with that" and go play the game

math has been done your build sucks by comparison (video game...made of numbers...math wins here)

walk away and enjoy it rather than tryign to vindicate yourself in an arguement where you are wrong

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's +45 Base strength, i.e. without gear. I don't see how that can be lost outside of a respec.

because they would have to dump str for dex to use fists *facedesk*

Besides, who says the only ones that would try a build like Julian's would be sword only? I have a sword bm, and I'm definitely not sword only.

Julian says that she must be sword only while everyone else is yelling to multipath...can you read?....like...at all?

Special? Not really. I just have a different perspective.

special

Edit:


Forgot to add this to my last post, thanks for including the calcs. o.o

Hmm, noticed a slight problem with it. Odessa's build likely is not 4:1 dex, she wouldn't have enough strength for her weapon, unassisted. Don't know if you counted for that or not. Shouldn't make a massive difference though.

its 3.5 1.5 because thats min str req for fists...again...can you read?

10charyoudontseemtoknowanythingaboutthebmclass

sorry for doublepost

Laranda - Heavens Tear

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

because they would have to dump str for dex to use fists *facedesk*

Have you heard of HA venos? They can equip same level Heavy Armor and Magic Weapon. This requires 6 points per level to accomplish. In other words, it's impossible with the stat points gained from leveling. In order to accomplish this, they cheat. They use the +stats from other gear to support both items.

The exact same method applies to bm's. Using +stat gear, they can move their stats around and still use all 4 paths. Proof of concept. The points I put in are the requirements of a nirvana dual sword. Despite that, a Striking Dragon is equipped.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

Julian says that she must be sword only while everyone else is yelling to multipath...can you read?....like...at all?

As I have already stated, I would not recommend a build like hers or Odessa's to the average person or to a beginner. Their builds are more complex to use, but can provide unusual benefits or point towards new or missed ideas that could benefit bms as a whole.

It's called thinking outside the box for a reason.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

its 3.5 1.5 because thats min str req for fists...again...can you read?

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

A build like the 4:1 dex build Odessa sticks to

I was saying that Saku may have miscalculated due to requirements and was making sure this line was a typo in the post instead of the calcs.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Have you heard of HA venos? They can equip same level Heavy Armor and Magic Weapon. This requires 6 points per level to accomplish. In other words, it's impossible with the stat points gained from leveling. In order to accomplish this, they cheat. They use the +stats from other gear to support both items.

The exact same method applies to bm's. Using +stat gear, they can move their stats around and still use all 4 paths. Proof of concept. The points I put in are the requirements of a nirvana dual sword. Despite that, a Striking Dragon is equipped.


dumping 45 str adds into dex rather than into str...makeign you lose..45 str off the final build

As I have already stated, I would not recommend a build like hers or Odessa's to the average person or to a beginner. Their builds are more complex to use, but can provide unusual benefits or point towards new or missed ideas that could benefit bms as a whole.

no they just suck

It's called thinking outside the box for a reason.


this game is a box thinking outside it is called real life...this is not real life


I was saying that Saku may have miscalculated due to requirements and was making sure this line was a typo in the post instead of the calcs.

duuuuuuuuh

Julian - Dreamweaver

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

seriously just say "hey 99.9% of pwi finds me useless but i'm ok with that" and go play the game

But it does not suck. It's just not optimal.

I already admitted far earlier on that I tell squads before I'm even invited about my build, and I accept that some of them might not want me in them afterward. Also, I don't PvP at all, so there's no issue there. You're just wanting me to admit that your opinion is "right", which it is not. It's an opinion, nothing more.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

math has been done your build sucks by comparison (video game...made of numbers...math wins here)

You're repeating yourself far too much. It seems that you're just trying to devalidate our playing style so we can play how you think is "correctly". But it's a game, and a free one at that. We are under no obligation by anyone, especially snotty kids like you.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

walk away and enjoy it rather than tryign to vindicate yourself in an arguement where you are wrong

Uh... which part am I wrong about? I'm not trying to argue that I'm better than anyone. I think you're just butthurt that someone isn't playing by your rules. Or perhaps you're just the type that flames pointlessly just so he can have the last say.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

no they just suck

Why do you have to put us down anyway? Our builds aren't optimal, we know that. You don't have to look like a loser and try flaming us pointlessly.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

this game is a box thinking outside it is called real life...this is not real life

Exactly, it's not real life. That means it's not to be taken seriously. We can do whatever we want in it, and none of it will matter in the long run. You're not gonna make a career out of your 3:2 BM, so there's no reason to try enforcing it, then flaming the ones that don't listen.

Bottom line: Now you're just mad because you're not getting your way. Nothing you say will matter. Go cry me a river, noob.

Fist_Mama - Harshlands

okey maybe shes not maxamizeing her abilities as a bm but its a game there is no rule saying you have to play a certain way. again its a game you a free to play however you choose.

<has arcane bm

Laranda - Heavens Tear

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

dumping 45 str adds into dex rather than into str...makeign you lose..45 str off the final build

Does not work that way due to items that increase both.

Not going to bother replying to the rest. No sense in talking to a brick wall.

Julian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Exactly, it's not real life. That means it's not to be taken seriously. We can do whatever we want in it, and none of it will matter in the long run. You're not gonna make a career out of your 3:2 BM, so there's no reason to try enforcing it, then flaming the ones that don't listen.

I agree 100%. I doubt he'll understand the point though.

Fist_Mama - Harshlands

allso dont forget the trophy mode capes and the lunar capes raise ur stats allso

Laranda - Heavens Tear

True, but the info for them is broke on pwdatabase. Didn't feel like making a pwcalc link just for 1 item. o.o