Aps Nirvanas gone to far?

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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'll take you on some more quick nirvana squads if you're online today rune, because even though your aps is not 5.0 you're also very useful in a few ways. Firstly, if you're the only blademaster in the squad you help the pure sin or pure attack shard archer builds with bell and secondly, you know how to time your heaven's flame. Last night we had a barb, my archer, a sin, and some non aps and finished the 1st boss in under 30 seconds because we all timed our debuffs and sparks. Also Ivy_ if you're online today you could come on some runs too.b:victory


    On the note of archers out DDing blademasters. Archers if they use TT 100 or Deicides and good gears can have around 37% crit rate and if you shard a set of event armor with attack shards your damage will be insane. Also, some 3.33 sage sins can out dps a 5.0 blademaster if they use the rank 6 daggers.
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  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Sage Sins can be beastly with their APS, especially if they have every available piece of -int they can get (including -0.05 interval on an OHT ring, of which I've heard of only two examples on every PWI server that exists, which would put them at 5 APS without demon spark).

    One of the reasons I was planning on going Demon until I farm up enough -interval to switch to Sage and still have 4 APS, actually.

    I'm half tempted to blow my coin on rank 6/sage quest daggers, but if I had that much to throw around for my Sin, I'd just save my coin for every other piece of -interval gear I could get and use rank 8/9/2nd recast Nirvy daggers instead.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'll take you on some more quick nirvana squads if you're online today rune, because even though your aps is not 5.0 you're also very useful in a few ways. Firstly, if you're the only blademaster in the squad you help the pure sin or pure attack shard archer builds with bell and secondly, you know how to time your heaven's flame. Last night we had a barb, my archer, a sin, and some non aps and finished the 1st boss in under 30 seconds because we all timed our debuffs and sparks. Also Ivy_ if you're online today you could come on some runs too.b:victory


    On the note of archers out DDing blademasters. Archers if they use TT 100 or Deicides and good gears can have around 37% crit rate and if you shard a set of event armor with attack shards your damage will be insane. Also, some 3.33 sage sins can out dps a 5.0 blademaster if they use the rank 6 daggers.

    event armor? r8 armor? oht? o-o
  • Ivy_ - Dreamweaver
    Ivy_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    event armor? r8 armor? oht? o-o

    I think he means like the heavenrage boots.
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  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ya thank you Ds on taking me on alot of runs during 2x

    You are right if there enough teamwork it can be better then any full 5.0 squads no one realizes it and still tries just 5.0s

    Heck i did a run today with 2 high DD and rest mag class and was over like the bosses weren't even there and i even started DCing half way threw.
    101 Blademaster(Pro/Fail 4.0 BM with 11k base HP+G16(+10))
    100 Seeker(The Vortex Beast)
    86 Assassin(Solo king)
    76 Archer(Squishy Nuker)
    72 Cleric(Horrible healer)
    67 Barb(Buff baby)
    61 Wizard(King Aoe)
    37 Mystic(Fun project)
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sage Sins can be beastly with their APS, especially if they have every available piece of -int they can get (including -0.05 interval on an OHT ring, of which I've heard of only two examples on every PWI server that exists, which would put them at 5 APS without demon spark).

    One of the reasons I was planning on going Demon until I farm up enough -interval to switch to Sage and still have 4 APS, actually.

    I'm half tempted to blow my coin on rank 6/sage quest daggers, but if I had that much to throw around for my Sin, I'd just save my coin for every other piece of -interval gear I could get and use rank 8/9/2nd recast Nirvy daggers instead.

    -int doesn't exist on any OHT rings, sage sins can only get 4.0 base.
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    (including -0.05 interval on an OHT ring, of which I've heard of only two examples on every PWI server that exists, which would put them at 5 APS without demon spark). .

    Huh? Since when was there -int on OHT rings? I was under the impression that it wasn't possible, else I'd've seen at least one somewhere. I'd like to see these examples... b:surrender

    EDIT: Didn't see that Traz had posted the same thing. Mea culpa.
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    event armor? r8 armor? oht? o-o

    Heavenrage boots and boots of holy punishment ^^
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  • JugalateJudy - Dreamweaver
    JugalateJudy - Dreamweaver Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    im a cleric, and i kinda hate runing nirvy with -3aps ppl. u shuld see how squishy most of them r, and how i get insulted cuz they dont see the fire b:laugh so its my right to ask ,,its a 4-5 aps squad?" be4 accepting a invitation to nirvyb:surrender even most 5 aps squad doesnt even need a cleric usualy -.- but well, thats the gameb:bye
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  • Toxie - Dreamweaver
    Toxie - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    -int doesn't exist on any OHT rings, sage sins can only get 4.0 base.

    <---Was TOLD that the person I was talking to and someone he knows on Sanctuary both got it. Never saw proof, so for all I know he was lying out his ***. But that's where Feng heard it from.

    Supposedly the person that told me had 2 OHT rings -int, said the percentage was so low that it didn't show on pwdatabase.

    edit: was also told 1 of them sold for 80mil, whether here or on Sanc idk.
  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Alright, I'ma half to call bull****, then. If a ring popped up with -int, it'd probably sell for as much as, or more than, a -int tome.
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Alright, I'ma half to call bull****, then. If a ring popped up with -int, it'd probably sell for as much as, or more than, a -int tome.
    b:laugh imagine if the ring give 3% crit also
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  • Shadowfire - Dreamweaver
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    JugalateJudy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im a cleric, and i kinda hate runing nirvy with -3aps ppl. u shuld see how squishy most of them r, and how i get insulted cuz they dont see the fire b:laugh so its my right to ask ,,its a 4-5 aps squad?" be4 accepting a invitation to nirvyb:surrender even most 5 aps squad doesnt even need a cleric usualy -.- but well, thats the gameb:bye

    b:bye I'm a wizzy that's tanked a few of the bosses before, don't have to have high aps to not be squishy
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    b:bye I'm a wizzy that's tanked a few of the bosses before, don't have to have high aps to have a brain and avoid the fires

    fixedb:laugh
  • Ivy_ - Dreamweaver
    Ivy_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    JugalateJudy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    im a cleric, and i kinda hate runing nirvy with -3aps ppl. u shuld see how squishy most of them r, and how i get insulted cuz they dont see the fire b:laugh so its my right to ask ,,its a 4-5 aps squad?" be4 accepting a invitation to nirvyb:surrender even most 5 aps squad doesnt even need a cleric usualy -.- but well, thats the gameb:bye

    To be fair, that's not the fault of the magic/non aps class as a whole. That's the fault of them hypering up the *** and neglecting their gear.

    And like Shadowfire said, you don't have to be 5.0 to be non squishy. I have a wizzie that has more hp than some BM's unbuffed (yeah, I ran into a few of those while doing a warsong), and as much pdef as them too.
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  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Ivy_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And like Shadowfire said, you don't have to be 5.0 to be non squishy. I have a wizzie that has more hp than some BM's unbuffed (yeah, I ran into a few of those while doing a warsong), and as much pdef as them too.

    It be quite common to see Wizzys with comparable pdef to HA classes these days. I really didn't believe it till i made one myself and realized I could hit five figures with demon Stone Barrier.b:shocked
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  • Getter_Robo - Dreamweaver
    Getter_Robo - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It be quite common to see Wizzys with comparable pdef to HA classes these days. I really didn't believe it till i made one myself and realized I could hit five figures with demon Stone Barrier.b:shocked

    b:surrender I have yet run a Nirvana run with a wizzy. Shadow...>:D lets go b:victory
  • Estoy - Dreamweaver
    Estoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Dakuken - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Here's a suggestion.. start. your. own. squad.

    Step 1. Ask friends (if you fail to get a full squad, see step 2)

    Step 2. Ask faction (if you still fail to get a fulls quad, see step 3)

    Step 3. Ask world chat (by now you should have a full squad, since believe or not non APS users do Nirvana...)

    Step 4. ??????

    Step 5. Profit now don't make another pointless thread like this again :P

    and its not always they only take 5 aps, my bm had no probs getting to aps squads even when i was 3,33 with +3 claws, if u play good people will know and u get squads easier, keep em happy with a few HF and if somehow some1 still doesnt want u, follow dakus guide :)b:pleased
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Estoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and its not always they only take 5 aps, my bm had no probs getting to aps squads even when i was 3,33 with +3 claws, if u play good people will know and u get squads easier, keep em happy with a few HF and if somehow some1 still doesnt want u, follow dakus guide :)b:pleased

    I got rejected for being 4.0 instead of 5.0 one time... now I'm 5APS with Demon Bell/Hf/Bash/Roar/M marrow.... and +10 claws... with 7.8k HP unbuffed... only people that deny me are.... oh, wait... nobody's rejected me from a squad yet.

    But yes, follow Estoy's guide to follow my guide and soon you shall be swimming in the seas of fire that fill the Phoenix's room in Nirvana :D
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Estoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and its not always they only take 5 aps, my bm had no probs getting to aps squads even when i was 3,33 with +3 claws, if u play good people will know and u get squads easier, keep em happy with a few HF and if somehow some1 still doesnt want u, follow dakus guide :)b:pleased

    Nice necro b:bye
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  • krisnda
    krisnda Posts: 4,655 Community Moderator
    edited May 2011
    Closed for necro.
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