The Mith of Nirvana

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Jiblet - Sanctuary wrote: »

Something has changed a little 1v1 in the average wizzy's favour.

. . . rank 8 does benefit wizards more than it benefits classes

Rank 8 definitely benefits casters in general more than others, and quite possibly wizards most out of that group. I think that is true, and I may have even posted that earlier here or on another thread.

But Rank 8 is a tide that rises all boats, so it now makes what would be considered non-cash shopped characters with superior pvp skills have better gear as well, particularly tidebourn who get a full g12 armor set now apparently?

If wizards get a full R8 set with the next patch (which I suspect they will), that should help a bit more.

I guess I am saying, while I recognize Rank 8 is a bigger boost for wizards, its by no means parity-inducing.

Jiblet - Sanctuary wrote: »

As for the other comments about our lack of skills etc, I generally agree although not all is accurate (I'm pretty sure I'd consider distance shrink as a movement skill for example).

Yea, I wasn't referring to movement skills in general I guess, but ones that also make you immune to movement debuffs.

And DS isn't that great. I can get 1, MAYBE 2 skills off after a DS before a bm is back on me. And if I go for a second I'm usually gonna be stunned.

And what is the duration of summer sprint, etc? I bet they get more meters out of theirs per minute than we do out of DS.

Jiblet - Sanctuary wrote: »

Psychs tho.....at least on Sanctuary I don't see them as a major worry. May be different on other servers but it's still sin's and that odd uber BM that bother me (Damn you chrisn....damn you to hell if you're reading this b:laugh)

Psychic haven't been on the top of my trouble list really, although there are a few that are pretty tough on our server.

Of course, if I had your gear, I think I would worry less too . . . .

As for chrisn, he's not so tough. I just need me and 79 of my closest friends to take him down . . . and a lil luck b:lipcurl

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Generally I won't go with a wizard with my cleric or BM doing a random Nirvana squad (only do those when my wife isn't on, otherwise, we just do Nirvana alone), and it doesn't help that most wizards I went with don't know how to run chests and tend to **** up more than any other class in Nirvana, and my 100 wizard couldn't even beg for a squad in the same fashion.

I love how noone will run Nirvana with wizards because wizards don't know how to run Nirvana. Of course, if noone runs nirvana with wizards, no wizard ever will know how to run nirvana, lol

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

having read the previous comments i'd like to add something:

1) i also agree that wiz benefits the most from rank 8 gear compared to other classes
but that doesnt mean that wiz will become the super powerfull DD then because i also
think the basic class problems still remain unsolved. Psychics rank 8 sphere~ same magic like the wiz magic sword which is simply not right considering that psy will still get 2 spells of in the time a wiz can cast one and we have the same % weapon dmg modifiers on our core skills and with black voodoo they will have 25% more dmg than we anyway

2) the problem with running instances is not that i wouldnt want to do them its more a question of what i can expect from them. If a wiz gets last pick in TT and Nirvana anyway its stilll not profitable to join the squads compared to grinding for DQ-Items. I did all my normal quests so far and i also grind in heaven( maybe i will change location to OHT or outside of heaven after i've collected enough high mats like compacted glaze) but it still sux that i hardly cant aoe kill a group of mobs there with my ultis ( they are lvl 10 ) without running into trouble of getting killed. Ok my hp is low with only 2.48k unbuffed but i dont think its ok that it takes still ****ing long to kill mobs with ~50k hp. Rank 8 might solve my problem but it will allow the psychic who is killing the mobs already a lot faster than me to 2-3 hit them

@JanusZeal it's still wrong that the nirvana squad doesnt benefit enough from taking a wiz into their squad to at least consider inviting them.

greetz harm0wnie

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

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particularly tidebourn who get a full g12 armor set now apparently?
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wrists and boots cost 21mil each and (at least for psys) they suck defense-wise.

Harmownie, if u find psys so OP just play one...
but consider the following: stone barrier, distance shrink, undine, seals, physical damage, ultis, solid -chan build. wizzies just have a different playstyle

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Harmownie, if u find psys so OP just play one... but consider the following: stone barrier, distance shrink, undine, seals, physical damage, ultis, solid -chan build. wizzies just have a different playstyle

dont get me wrong i like my wiz but it is sad to see that a lvl 86 psychic with lvl 80 TT weapon deals the same dmg with his spam skills than me with my sage spamskills and a TT 90. Or put it like this im lvl 92 now and im still waiting to see the high numbers wiz are famous for i mean lvl 10 Bids sage water mastery + TT 90 Weapon = 22k PVE dmg non crit ? Its really hard to nuke heaven mobs with 50k life even with 2 nukes.

MasterShi - Dreamweaver

HarmOwnie, don't even bother.
I've said on another topic: My 3.33 aps BM made from selling 2 lunar rings, TT90 top and pants, some tokens and a +8 Neon does about 4 times as much dps as my lvl 100 wiz with +10 Neon, 27% chann and 14 crit.
There is just no match...
And I'm hitting 99 and 4 aps if not today, tomorrow. There won't even be a comparison possible. And I have +7 lunar claws with a perfect garnet in them.
It's just sad, as I like playing my wizard more than every other class. But I had to quit it and play something that I can make money with, cause wizard can't make money. Simple as that.