Science of Phys Def

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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    b:surrender No worries, most of the time I am as well. You'll see me editing afterwards very often. Mainly due to I type as tho I am in rush and edited later to revise it.
    Same.
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  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    As a Venomancer, I have missed using magic 3 times. You don't see it happen much due to they cover it up using an accuracy gem or two.

    As for my writing skills, my first comment was a lot better but, ._. I lost my connection. I hate using wi-fi connection.

    THEY being who? Who is covering up missing with magic with an accuracy gem or two? The mobs? Other players? O.o

    *Puts on tinfoil hat*

    Anyone else ever miss with magic or get missed with magic?
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rule - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    THEY being who? Who is covering up missing with magic with an accuracy gem or two? The mobs? Other players? O.o

    *Puts on tinfoil hat*

    Anyone else ever miss with magic or get missed with magic?

    -look around the room and sees no hands up-
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • _Nyasia_ - Sanctuary
    _Nyasia_ - Sanctuary Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    is she talking about fox skills? in that case, fox skills are treated as physical skills, which means, they can miss.

    and i have not heard from anyone that magic misses in this game. Hell, that's why i like casters in this game.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    _Nyasia_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    is she talking about fox skills? in that case, fox skills are treated as physical skills, which means, they can miss.

    Possibly. She may also be referring to Plume Shot.
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Azzazin - Dreamweaver
    Azzazin - Dreamweaver Posts: 502 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Maybe I can clarify.

    There are two types of attacks: 'physical attacks' and 'magic attacks'. The classic casting classes (cleric, wizard, psychic, human form veno) have all 'magic attacks', which means they do not miss. Physical attacks can miss, and the more accuracy you have, the less you miss a 'physical attack'.

    However, it gets a bit more involved: you can have (a) 'physical attacks' which do MAGIC damage when they hit, and you can have (b) 'magic attacks' which do PHYSICAL damage. A 'physical attack' which deals some magic damage can miss; a 'magic attack' which deals physical damage will still not miss.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the archer metal attacks fall under (a) category. So would a barbarian's 'firestorm' attack, or a blademasters 'heaven's flame' attack. Under the (b) category, we have the cleric's 'plume shot' or the wizard's physical-damaging attack... (blade tempest?...). Again, physical attacks doing magic damage CAN miss, but magic attacks dealing physical damage will NOT miss.

    I do not have much experience with venomancers, but perhaps some fox form skills deal a physical attack with magic damage?

    Anyways, with a cool assassin buff called 'focused mind', the magic damage an opponent deals will still hit, but the buff will 'avoid' the damage by reducing the damage to '1'. This *may* be what Keliska meant. The magic still hits, but then its damage is filtered through the focused mind buff, and the buff may reduce the damage to '1' (25% chance @ lvl 10 of the buff).

    Cheers,

    Azzazin
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  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I do not have much experience with venomancers, but perhaps some fox form skills deal a physical attack with magic damage?

    Nope.

    I've never missed with magic and have never sharded for accuracy.

    I could see how myriad rainbow could be perceived as missing as the debuffs/DoTs proc randomly, but that doesn't mean that the spell didn't hit.

    You may have seen a pet miss, as both numbers pop up, but spells always hit.
  • Twsted - Raging Tide
    Twsted - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Wow ok ima just throw my 3cents in here. Ive been playinv a sin since they came out. Anda ive experimented with a few builds/shards(currently usin a vit build with jus enough dex to use my weapon/armor so i dont get one shotted in these retardedized TTs >_>.) In my experience amber shards(evasion) dosent make enough of a difference to matter although i nevear sharded up to the gem stage so who knows? Second, magic never misses. Ever. Phys atts that do magic damage can miss but pure magic attacks never miss. Sins have a skill called focused mind that says that it avoids attacks bit it dosent rlly it jus makes them hit for 1. This skill works for magic atts to but idk if ur evasion rate effecs it. And yes i know im not a casting class but ige been in pk nonstop since lvl 30 and ive fought a lot of casters so i semi know what im talkin about lol
    is it jus me or does every thread turn into a flame thread at some point? wheres the love?? b:cry
    WTF is a gank? -_- its called pvp
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They = Venomancers
    I am not an idiot I was using scarabs = if I am not mistaken magic attacks.

    ... very sure sure it's not a fox skill.

    There are some guides suggesting to add an accuracy gem but, most people don'y "until" they miss. Meaning it doesn't happen often.

    1 mag 9 dex - end game usually makes magic miss ... but I am a n00b and keep my comments to my self.

    -.-; no one cares anyway.
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  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They = Venomancers
    I am not an idiot I was using scarabs = if I am not mistaken magic attacks.

    ... very sure sure it's not a fox skill.

    There are some guides suggesting to add an accuracy gem but, most people don'y "until" they miss. Meaning it doesn't happen often.

    1 mag 9 dex - end game usually makes magic miss ... but I am a n00b and keep my comments to my self.

    -.-; no one cares anyway.

    Long as everyone's clear on that.
  • Mauntille - Heavens Tear
    Mauntille - Heavens Tear Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They = Venomancers
    I am not an idiot I was using scarabs = if I am not mistaken magic attacks.

    ... very sure sure it's not a fox skill.

    There are some guides suggesting to add an accuracy gem but, most people don'y "until" they miss. Meaning it doesn't happen often.

    1 mag 9 dex - end game usually makes magic miss ... but I am a n00b and keep my comments to my self.

    -.-; no one cares anyway.

    Was trying to help your case, not make you sound like an idiot. b:surrender

    I've just never heard of using accuracy gems for magic, only for the fox skills.
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    o.o b:chuckle I put mag not str xD

    1 str 9 dex
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    o.o b:chuckle I put mag not str xD

    1 str 9 dex

    To what, exactly, are you referring?
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • Cheaper - Heavens Tear
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I have never missed a magic attack, ever. Magic in this game doesn't miss

    The only way to avoid it is to:
    use a genie skill that makes you immune to that element,
    genie skill or self skill to make you immune to damage,
    spark on time to resist the spell,
    apothecary item with damage immunity effect,
    interrupt the caster,
    run out of range.

    That is it.
    Your reason for missing can only be one of those.



    let me know if i missed something
    omg im posting stuff.
  • NSAT - Lost City
    NSAT - Lost City Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have never missed a magic attack, ever. Magic in this game doesn't miss

    The only way to avoid it is to:
    use a genie skill that makes you immune to that element,
    genie skill or self skill to make you immune to damage,
    spark on time to resist the spell,
    apothecary item with damage immunity effect,
    interrupt the caster,
    run out of range.

    That is it.
    Your reason for missing can only be one of those.



    let me know if i missed something

    well.... sins can make them hit 1. that's sort of like a miss

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