Murphy's Law Pwi Style

LOKl_ - Harshlands

For those that do not know murphy's law simply states that if anything can go wrong it will... And gives no nonsense hints on how to avoid those situations... After the team I was in earlier I decided to revise them.


Original law.... Never draw fire it irritates everyone around you

PWI law... Never draw aggro it irritates everyone around you

Original law...

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

you could put this in off topic as a game.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Oh that sucked... the entire post dissapeared... I will try to rewrite it lol... If you have any ones you can think of pls add





original law You are not Superman; Marines and fighter pilots take note.

PWI LAW You are not superman. Sins especially take note

original law If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid

PWI law If its stupid but it works... IT ISN'T STUPID

Original law Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.

PWI LAW Teamwork is essential; it gives the mobs other people to hit... Like the Barb with 2-3 times your hp

Original law Never draw fire; it irritates everyone around you

PWI LAW NEVER DRAW AGGRO; it irritates everyone around you

Original law Incoming fire has the right of way.

PWI law Incoming walkers have the right away in fb's and bh's when most of your team is not there turning in quests

Original law If the enemy is within range, so are you

PWI LAW if You can hit Chi'in he can hit you

Original law Anything you do can get you killed, including nothing

PWI LAW If you keep dueling while people are waiting on you inside an fb you will never lvl up and you dmg your own gear...

Original law Professional soldiers are predictable; the world is full of dangerous amateurs.

PWI LAW Pro gamers are predictable... The perfect world is filled with dangerous amateurs

Original law Napalm is an area support weapon

PWI LAW Heavens flame, tempest, armageddon and any other aoe is an area support weapon use them when outnumbered


Random ones


If your a sin and you aggro a dozen mobs without a cleric and die... your just stupid... If you want to play like a tank reroll as one

Barbs have multiple skills to pull aggro on them. Use it... If you do not then your cleric will die, your damage dealers will die and then you will die.... and you just look stupid

Clerics max ironheart first... Its stackable... Worry about the other heals afterward.

Typhyse - Sanctuary

Bump
This made my nightb:pleased

ShootJooh - Harshlands

Love it.b:victory

LifeHunting - Lost City

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh that sucked... the entire post dissapeared... I will try to rewrite it lol... If you have any ones you can think of pls add


Random ones


Barbs have multiple skills to pull aggro on them. Use it... If you do not then your cleric will die, your damage dealers will die and then you will die.... and you just look stupid

Clerics max ironheart first... Its stackable... Worry about the other heals afterward.

I deleted all but the two I found most important ^.^

Quilue - Sanctuary

When in doubt, empty your chi bar.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Barbs who tank in human form are fail. ALWAYS TANK IN BEAST FORM More hp faster hp regeneration and aggro pulling skills are available

AshCat - Lost City

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

When in doubt, empty your chi bar.

Win. *hand claps*

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Barbs who tank in human form are fail. ALWAYS TANK IN BEAST FORM More hp faster hp regeneration and aggro pulling skills are available

-int barbs with fists are ok...

Shin_Akuma_ - Sanctuary

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

When in doubt, empty your chi bar.

I Lawl'd.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

When in doubt, empty your chi bar.

Original law When in doubt, empty your magazine


PWI LAW When in doubt empty your chi bar



LOL thats a good one and I skipped right over it thnxb:victory

B_K - Sanctuary

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

original law If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid

PWI law If its stupid but it works... It's pure win
.

fixed for you ;D

though thats a general rule for all the internetz

Starflair - Dreamweaver

If the shoe fits, wear it.

PWI Law - If you think you can tank, tank.

Kaneharo - Dreamweaver

When in doubt, Pull it out.
(Wizards: When in doubt about the cleric's tank heals, start sutra healing to help.
Tanks: When in doubt about aggro, use aggro skills.
DDs in general: When in doubt about aggro, pull your attack blessing out of your equipped items and stop attacking for a few. )

LOKl_ - Harshlands

After today's experience..

PWI LAW A Venomancer in the team means a safer squad for pulling mobs one at a time.

(note if you are any class and violate this law with a leeroy moment you will die... and no the cleric will not heal you and the rest of squad will not help you... Everyone will just sit and watch you die)

Alphae - Lost City

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

After today's experience..

PWI LAW A Venomancer in the team means a safer squad for pulling mobs one at a time.

(note if you are any class and violate this law with a leeroy moment you will die... and no the cleric will not heal you and the rest of squad will not help you... Everyone will just sit and watch you die)

Sadly a lot of clerics feel this urge to run in and slap up BB while the tank leeroys right in after them.

I usually run the other way, out of BB range, and wait for things to stop, clear the mobs from their dead bodies (if I'm feeling generous) and then (if I'm feeling even more generous) wait for the cleric to rez the squad and then help them to continue.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Alphae - Lost City wrote: »

Sadly a lot of clerics feel this urge to run in and slap up BB while the tank leeroys right in after them.

I usually run the other way, out of BB range, and wait for things to stop, clear the mobs from their dead bodies (if I'm feeling generous) and then (if I'm feeling even more generous) wait for the cleric to rez the squad and then help them to continue.

You know thats a good point....



PWI LAW Cleric shall not heal village idiotsb:laugh


Ok ok I need to work on that one. I will come back later after I revise it

Kaste - Sanctuary

i got one too ^^

Original: When the tree doesn't break with pure muscle power, get your chainsaw.

PWI: When the Boss doesn't die with - int fist barb, get your *insert BM or Sin*

Darksylph - Heavens Tear

Alphae - Lost City wrote: »

Sadly a lot of clerics feel this urge to run in and slap up BB while the tank leeroys right in after them.

I usually run the other way, out of BB range, and wait for things to stop, clear the mobs from their dead bodies (if I'm feeling generous) and then (if I'm feeling even more generous) wait for the cleric to rez the squad and then help them to continue.

I've screwed up a genie lure on occasion. Most of the times i try to run away from the squad while typing "Dont save me!"...

Unfortunately trying to manage running & typing quickly often fails as clerics instincts kick in quickly and it has caused nasty results on occasion.

In general if i'm not saved, i expected not to be saved & dont even want to be saved. Better that the party survive to rez me after, than to cause the whole squad to wipe.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Starflair - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If the shoe fits, wear it.

PWI Law - If the shoe fits, the veno wearing it is still a dude in real life.

Another fix

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've screwed up a genie lure on occasion. Most of the times i try to run away from the squad while typing "Dont save me!"...

Unfortunately trying to manage running & typing quickly often fails as clerics instincts kick in quickly and it has caused nasty results on occasion.

In general if i'm not saved, i expected not to be saved & dont even want to be saved. Better that the party survive to rez me after, than to cause the whole squad to wipe.

**** up a lure is ok in these situations.... But when someone sees the boss gets that anxious feeling and runs right into him and all the mobs around him.... Well he never intended to lure... let him die.

As for the team trying to help. I usually tell them (in advance) to stand far enough back. If I pull the wrong one or all of them let me try and fight a few off first before coming into range. If not oh well Guardian Scrolls FTW!!!!


Because I play like this a few people seem to think I am pro (I don't think so) and I get alot of team invites to fail squads. Who NEVER say anything beyond hi or... NEED QUIANJI!!!!

Remember Teamwork is essential and part of teamwork is good communication skills

LOKl_ - Harshlands

I have a few more to add


PWI LAW Barbs use flesh ream nonstop keep all aggro on you and do not listen to others telling you to stop pulling aggro

PWI Clerics Spam the holy hell out of Iron Heart on the barb (just the barb). It may not be your strongest heal but it is stackable over a period of 15 seconds and it all adds up.

Sins... Put down the bow and run up and hit it... If you have a barb using the flesh ream like he is supposed to you will not pull aggro... And if you want to play as an archer reroll as one.


Blademasters... Pick a weapon and stick with it...If you try and do every weapon and every skill.... Most of the lvls you will be underpowered and you will never have enough or be as strong as a pure axe, sword, fist, or pole blade master.
(This last one is in regards to the guy I ran intonot to long ago who just hit 70 and is buying all tt 70 weapons because he can use them all. He has a lil of everything but a bm at that lvl should do alot more dmg to me)

Okeano - Harshlands

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Sins... Put down the bow and run up and hit it... If you have a barb using the flesh ream like he is supposed to you will not pull aggro... And if you want to play as an archer reroll as one.

You have never played a Sin have you?

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Blademasters... Pick a weapon and stick with it...If you try and do every weapon and every skill.... Most of the lvls you will be underpowered and you will never have enough or be as strong as a pure axe, sword, fist, or pole blade master.
(This last one is in regards to the guy I ran intonot to long ago who just hit 70 and is buying all tt 70 weapons because he can use them all. He has a lil of everything but a bm at that lvl should do alot more dmg to me)

There's nothing wrong with multi weapon from the start if you know what you are doing and have the coins to back it up. My BM destroyed other "pure" weapon BM in public quest by massive aoe-ing mobs at the start with axes then DPS on the elite mobs with claws.

This thread is about "Murphy's Laws" but I still felt the need to point our your flawed concept of some classes.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

You have never played a Sin have you?




There's nothing wrong with multi weapon from the start if you know what you are doing and have the coins to back it up. My BM destroyed other "pure" weapon BM in public quest by massive aoe-ing mobs at the start with axes then DPS on the elite mobs with claws.

This thread is about "Murphy's Laws" but I still felt the need to point our your flawed concept of some classes.

Yes I have played a sin I do more damage with my daggers than the bow. However if I want to hide in the back and deal massive damage I just play on my archer.


I agree some can do it... I am just now starting to branch out into the other weapons myself since all my axe skills are maxed and I should have a back up of spirit to spend. Money has never been an issue with me in this game but spirit has been. Get spirit by killing things doing quests blah blah blah we all know that part. But there have been points where I did not have enough for my lvl (I carry guardians so I never lose exp if and when I die which is very rarely unless pked) and I went pure axe vit build. There is no way I could have maxed axes and another weapon by this lvl let alone all of them. So my logic still fits... Let me put it this way A lvl 10 axe, sword, fist, or pole dmg increase by 74 (increase weapon dmg by 60%) or a lvl 5 and 5 sword, axe, fist, and or pole by the same lvl (I think it was increase weapon dmg by 36%)? I nurf myself by using multiple weapons as I lvl up. (now I know that math is not exact and by endgame it won't matter but for the 40's-60's range it will matter a great deal.

Okeano - Harshlands

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Yes I have played a sin I do more damage with my daggers than the bow. However if I want to hide in the back and deal massive damage I just play on my archer.

Of course you'll do more damage with daggers than bow, and my point is a Barb won't be able to hold aggro even spamming FR. FR also takes chi so Barbs usually run out of chi pretty fast by spamming it.

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

I agree some can do it... I am just now starting to branch out into the other weapons myself since all my axe skills are maxed and I should have a back up of spirit to spend. Money has never been an issue with me in this game but spirit has been. Get spirit by killing things doing quests blah blah blah we all know that part. But there have been points where I did not have enough for my lvl (I carry guardians so I never lose exp if and when I die which is very rarely unless pked) and I went pure axe vit build. There is no way I could have maxed axes and another weapon by this lvl let alone all of them. So my logic still fits... Let me put it this way A lvl 10 axe, sword, fist, or pole dmg increase by 74 (increase weapon dmg by 60%) or a lvl 5 and 5 sword, axe, fist, and or pole by the same lvl (I think it was increase weapon dmg by 36%)? I nurf myself by using multiple weapons as I lvl up. (now I know that math is not exact and by endgame it won't matter but for the 40's-60's range it will matter a great deal.

Fists + axes is easily do-able since all you need for fists is the mastery and that's just one extra skill to learn. You might have to put off level skills like Sutra or Roar, but those can be put off til 8X if you are not doing much PvP at early level.

As for the mastery part, this is where you don't understand the game mechanics. Your mastery does not directly boost your final damage by the % it states, i.e. you won't hit 60% harder than a person with no mastery if you max yours. Your base damage, or the damage it shows in your character sheet is

base damage= attack multiplier * weapon attack.

Assuming both players have the same weapon, the mastery will affect the attack multiplier, but not directly by the % stated in the mastery's skill description.

Attack multiplier = 1 + STR/150 + weapon mastery + physical attack buffs

If 2 players at lvl 74 both have 227 STR and no other buffs, then the player without mastery will have a multiplier of 1+1.51, or 2.51 while the player with lvl 10 mastery will have a multiplier of 1+1.51+0.6= 3.11. There's a 24% difference in having maxed mastery vs 0 mastery. So having a few mastery levels behind won't be as big of a difference as you think.

Manakel - Lost City

Money can't buy happiness


Money can't buy skill.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Of course you'll do more damage with daggers than bow, and my point is a Barb won't be able to hold aggro even spamming FR. FR also takes chi so Barbs usually run out of chi pretty fast by spamming it.



Fists + axes is easily do-able since all you need for fists is the mastery and that's just one extra skill to learn. You might have to put off level skills like Sutra or Roar, but those can be put off til 8X if you are not doing much PvP at early level.

As for the mastery part, this is where you don't understand the game mechanics. Your mastery does not directly boost your final damage by the % it states, i.e. you won't hit 60% harder than a person with no mastery if you max yours. Your base damage, or the damage it shows in your character sheet is

base damage= attack multiplier * weapon attack.

Assuming both players have the same weapon, the mastery will affect the attack multiplier, but not directly by the % stated in the mastery's skill description.

Attack multiplier = 1 + STR/150 + weapon mastery + physical attack buffs

If 2 players at lvl 74 both have 227 STR and no other buffs, then the player without mastery will have a multiplier of 1+1.51, or 2.51 while the player with lvl 10 mastery will have a multiplier of 1+1.51+0.6= 3.11. There's a 24% difference in having maxed mastery vs 0 mastery. So having a few mastery levels behind won't be as big of a difference as you think.

Thnx for all that... I suck at math but I get it... Been looking for the formula for awhile.

As I said I am going with sword as my next set of weapons... I figure 2 more lvls and all my axe skills will be maxed until demon/sage desicion(except heavens flame). And as I said there have been times with taking a pure path that I did not have enough to be as high as I would like with many of those skills. I can foresee that by the time I am your lvl I should have all skills taken care of and I will need to test both in pve and pvp to see what each one does benefits and negatives.

As for pvp... I get into a lot of fights.... The day I hit 30 (on my main) I was pked about a dozen times at least (I stopped keeping track after that) And every single day up until about 50 I was getting pked alot. And even now I go after people pking in the 30's areas and sometimes I pick the wrong target and attack 90's+ rednames (those don't end well)

But it has taught me a few things....

Fist bm's and sins can hit and kill me before my charm ticks (stunlock sucks when your on the recieving end).
Wizzies, clerics, and psys can one shot me.
Nix veno's suck.
Don't chase kiting archers (had to learn that one the hard way).
Most barbs suck but beware of a charmed one with armageddon (Jlung who did not suck but he hurt.... alot).

I_sage_i - Harshlands

Manakel - Lost City wrote: »

Money can't buy happiness


Money can't buy skill.

thats a lie!

I_sage_i - Harshlands

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Thnx for all that... I suck at math but I get it... Been looking for the formula for awhile.

As I said I am going with sword as my next set of weapons... I figure 2 more lvls and all my axe skills will be maxed until demon/sage desicion(except heavens flame). And as I said there have been times with taking a pure path that I did not have enough to be as high as I would like with many of those skills. I can foresee that by the time I am your lvl I should have all skills taken care of and I will need to test both in pve and pvp to see what each one does benefits and negatives.

As for pvp... I get into a lot of fights.... The day I hit 30 (on my main) I was pked about a dozen times at least (I stopped keeping track after that) And every single day up until about 50 I was getting pked alot. And even now I go after people pking in the 30's areas and sometimes I pick the wrong target and attack 90's+ rednames (those don't end well)

But it has taught me a few things....

Fist bm's and sins can hit and kill me before my charm ticks (stunlock sucks when your on the recieving end). have you ever fought a fist bm before?
Wizzies, clerics, and psys can one shot me. did you level magic marrow?
Nix veno's suck. lol
Don't chase kiting archers (had to learn that one the hard way). .........
Most barbs suck but beware of a charmed one with armageddon (Jlung who did not suck but he hurt.... alot.no most barbs dont suck

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sorry for double post but ya read it. you remind me of demon_ea and yulk.

Zahlee - Lost City

Murphy's Law: A falling object will always land where it can do the most damage.
PWI law : You, as a falling object, will always land where mobs, or a world boss can do the most damage to YOU

Murphy's law : No matter how long or how hard you shop for an item, after you've bought it, it will be on sale somewhere cheaper.
PWI law : When you buy something from the boutique after you have finally given up hope waiting for it to come on sale, It will be on sale the very next day.

*EDIT: I have more*

Murphy's Law : Anything dropped in the bathroom will fall in the toilet.
PWI law : Clerics afk without notice for the bathroom, will make everything go down the toilet

Murphy's Law : The complexity and frustration factor is inversely proportional to how much time you have left to finish, and how important it is.
PWI law : The duration, complexity and frustration factor of a fb is inversely proportional to how much time you have before you have to log off.

Murphy's Law : If at first you don't succeed destroy all evidence that you ever tried
PWI law : If at first you don't succeed.... Pk everyone in sight who saw it go down

Murphy's Law : When you really need something, its either not available, or can't be found. When you don't need it, its either available, or lays around in plain sight.
PWI Law : When you need a cleric for a rez, they are never around or they are all unavailable. Otherwise they are always available or in plain sight.

Murphy's Law: Common Sense Is Not So Common
PWI law : .....Doesn't need to be changed

Murphy's Law : Radios will fail as soon as you need fire support.
PWI law : Squad chat will always be filled with red spam as soon someone types something essential to keeping the squad alive

b:cute