Genie Affinity Calculator

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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Very helpful tool for new players. I vote sticky on beginner's guide section.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Thank you very much for making this tool available to us. b:thanks
  • Skynyrd - Lost City
    Skynyrd - Lost City Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Yes! You ROCK!
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    truekossy wrote: »
    Ah. That's partly because the calculations for it are kinda... inaccurate.

    It shows level 1 genie as having 1 LP minimum when that should be 0 (don't get first LPS til level 10). Then it goes and takes the minimum genie level for your affinities into account for the LPs (IE: Picking the bottom 3 skills, it shows genie needs to be level 100 to learn them all, but gives a minimum LP possible of 11 when, in reality, it's supposed to be 10).


    So yeah, our math pro Ast made a mistake with the LPs shown for level. Though once you go above 4 skills, it starts showing LPs based on skill amount and doesn't apply anymore.

    Oh ok, I didn't really look at the app more than breifly.... scanned down the list selected one skill and then saw that and it confused me :)
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I've added the ability to link to or bookmark genie builds:

    The URL gets updated as you go.. here's my genie
    http://astersite.webfreehosting.net/pw/genieskillplanner.html#skills=011523262c4d4f
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Is that an IE thing? I only tested in chrome lol.
    Lucky points are only really calculated for 5 skills or more. I didnt add any logic for min vit.


    gues it is IE only than yea.
    Crappy browser

    EDIT: Personaly I liked it better when the skils were sorted to min genie lvl, as that is what I'm used to when looking in the genie skill list in game. Can you put an option to sort it ether way? Would love that the most.

    And I just set down to really use it, and it's great. I remember the hassel on being short in affinity's when I wanted to switch some skils around (about what lvl I needed and what I needed to reset ect)
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If I ever feel motivated enough you'll be able to click on the skills from a grid like on ecatomb.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If I ever feel motivated enough you'll be able to click on the skills from a grid like on ecatomb.

    I would love that b:thanks.

    Makes me think. How would this tool look on ecatomb? Greatest overal info hosting (or linking to) greatest genie tool.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Sorry for the double post, but I don't think this deserves to be bumped down to page 4 already by ani threads
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  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    i vote for sticky in Beginner's Guide

    keep working on it astrelle. so far its very helpful.

    yes, a grid like ecatomb along with the skill descriptions would be absolutely wonderful.
  • Aurores - Heavens Tear
    Aurores - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    it would be nice if you can make it so the page highlights the remaining available skills that can be taught to the genie based on the affinity occupation from the already selected skills. b:victory
    Retired b:bye
  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    you need to add the 4 initial skills to the list of options. threw me off 20 lp becuase i i forgot i needed to keep earthflame on my zeal

    other than that its great.


    and bump for awesomeness
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I have updated the tool with a grid selection similar to what you see in-game and on ecatomb.
    It should be much nicer to use now.

    This update is not backwards compatible with old saved bookmarks though if anyone cares about that feature. New bookmarks will be fine.

    Tested in Google Chrome and Safari. Use this in IE at your own risk.

    TODO:
    Add initial skills (these have no affinity requirements but do affect luckypoints)
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Added support for the 4 initial genie skills if anyone cares about those.
    Cleaned up the tooltips a bit.

    Maybe the final version?
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    Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Any chance for a mouse-over dialogue/popup with the skill name?

    I don't know all the icons by sight, so it would be nice to be able to mouse over the name, if possible...
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  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Why are you so smart?
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Any chance for a mouse-over dialogue/popup with the skill name?

    I don't know all the icons by sight, so it would be nice to be able to mouse over the name, if possible...

    The mouseover tooltip was working in Safari and Chrome but not Firefox. Should be fixed now.
    Apparently Firefox only supports :hover in <a> tags.. totally lame. Anyway it's fixed now.

    Maybe one day I'll get it working in IE8
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    Refining Simulator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/refiningsimulator.html (don't use IE)
    Genie Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/geniecalculator.html - (don't use IE)
    Socket Calculator - aster.ohmydays.net/pw/socketcalculator.html
  • noblemariner
    noblemariner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Wow thank you so much. Much of my game as of late has been focussed on raising a decent genie. Ive played for about 6 months on and off. It was much to my dismay(thats real mildly put) when I fully understood the implications of having raised a luckless genie to the upper 60's. Just as I'm becoming at ease with my knowledge of genies, comes another shocker; high level skills require a minimum of attributes !! If it wasn't for players like yourselves sharing and contributing your experiences i would've thrashed this game for lack information. I can only feel for those stumbling about feeding costly exp and spirit into nearly worthless genies. Heres to all of you who contribute to forums and the game.This post and your Genie Skill Planner are brilliant keep up the great work !!!
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The mouseover tooltip was working in Safari and Chrome but not Firefox. Should be fixed now.
    Apparently Firefox only supports :hover in <a> tags.. totally lame. Anyway it's fixed now.

    Maybe one day I'll get it working in IE8

    Oh ok, thanks. I actually love your planner, but I had to go back and fourth between ecatomb, making it a little more tedious. But it saved me from having to write everything down add it up manually...

    I rerolled my affinities with my 101 genie and figured out a better selection of skills which ended up requiring all 22 affinity points.... so your little app saved me a good half hour or more. Thank you!

    b:pleased


    P.S. What I actually found most useful was trying to figure which skill would fit in my last genie skill slot. That can be a pain when you've got 4-5 skills already in mind but previously needed to search to see which skills you could add.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    give me equations for pdef and mdef Aster ._.

    /eot

    *bookmarked*
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Glad people are playing with it :)
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    P.S. What I actually found most useful was trying to figure which skill would fit in my last genie skill slot. That can be a pain when you've got 4-5 skills already in mind but previously needed to search to see which skills you could add.

    I'm thinking of a good way to support this directly where you give it what kind of genie you already have and what affinities / skills you've already assigned and it shows you what skills are available.

    Supporting both directions in the same interface is tricky... I dunno I might just do a separate app
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    give me equations for pdef and mdef Aster ._.

    Sorry I have to be in the mood for it <_<
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm thinking of a good way to support this directly where you give it what kind of genie you already have and what affinities / skills you've already assigned and it shows you what skills are available.

    Supporting both directions in the same interface is tricky... I dunno I might just do a separate app

    One thing I would have like to have seen was a notation or something stating that specific skills require abnormally high amounts of vit... skills such as Faith, Cloud Eruption or Bramble Rage come to mind. My str genie has enough vit for lvl 10 Absolute Domain, but only had enough to get lvl 2 Cloud Eruption, for example. I would have said something, but I know that would take a lot more effort to include, so I didn't really mention it as a serious suggestion.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Oh, thanks for fixing the mouse-overs... I just completely refreshed affinites and attributes to rebuild a genie just for TW , and the planner was most essential.

    Now, I need a 81+ LP genie for PvE... now that I know all the skills I want on one genie will actually fit, I need that 7th skill slot. Grrrr....
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  • Chaialyna - Dreamweaver
    Chaialyna - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Thank you! This is very useful, especially combined with the Genie Calculator.
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  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Chaialyna - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Thank you! This is very useful, especially combined with the Genie Calculator.
    I've never seen that calculater until now, thanks for sharing that :D
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    This needs to be stickied btw mods, or... whoever.
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Chaialyna - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Thank you! This is very useful, especially combined with the Genie Calculator.

    Both, the calculator and planner are very useful, ty very much 4 this b:cute, wish i had found them sooner before building my genie blindly :P
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Maybe there should be a sticky somewhere that has a listing of all PWI community tools...

    EDIT: Ehh I should just put it up on the wiki, feel free to add more.
    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Community_Tools
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i love ur genie planner xd
  • tanlith
    tanlith Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Each Genie SKill is related to specific stats

    For example Alpha Male's effectiveness is related to the Genie's STR Stat

    Can you please implement a means of checking which STAT the skill is related to?

    When making / planning my Genie I sometimes end up adding a DEX skill on my STR genie for example because I have to do it by trial & error.

    If there's already a way to tell can you let me know cause I'm just not seeing it...

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