Question about rank armor and high lvl's
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Xarathox - Dreamweaver
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What's with all these 10x sin's wearing TT99/nirvana gear, but still wearing the ****ty lvl 70 rank chest piece?
Seriously, the extra -0.05 interval isn't that awesome as to nerf your own defences, and get yourself killed right after stealing aggro on a hard hitting boss. So what's the point of it?
Seriously, the extra -0.05 interval isn't that awesome as to nerf your own defences, and get yourself killed right after stealing aggro on a hard hitting boss. So what's the point of it?
Some people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die
Some people live to destroy me
Either way they die
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I don't notice enough of a difference to care that much, nor am I stupid enough to pull aggro and die. All I care about are those extra few hits I can get in in pvp.0
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The extra hits and the extra heal due to BP make it worth it.Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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Xarathox, you're joking right? Do you know what the difference is between hitting 4 times a second and 5? .05 interval0
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^ also this. Restat into a fist barb and see for yourself.0
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Yes, I do know the difference bwtween 4.0 and 5.0 aps.
Re-read the question and then answer me WHY they'd want to gimp their own defences with a low level item, when they can just get TT99 evasion necklace/belt and chest piece to gain that -0.05 back.
If you have the money to get 99/nirvana boots/sleeves/legs/weapon, then why not get the rest of it. -.-
Also, the extra littel bit of -int. means nothing if you demon spark all the time, as there's no possible way to go above 5 aps anyways.Some people risk to employ me
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Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »Re-read the question and then answer me WHY they'd want to gimp their own defences with a low level item, when they can just get TT99 evasion necklace/belt and chest piece to gain that -0.05 back.
No they can't. Any Sins and Archers should already be using 2 pieces of Ashura's, most likely boots and wrists, not to mention 2 pieces of Lionheart, being necklace and belt. So no -0.05 intervals from there.
And btw, once you start permasparking, that little loss in defense won't mean anything at all.
And really, it could just be that it's the price. When you've already gotten TT99 ornaments, TT99 wrists and boots and a Lunar Cape, any more -interval will cost you at least 100,000,000 coins. That is, except the Rank 4 armor.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »No they can't. Any Sins and Archers should already be using 2 pieces of Ashura's, most likely boots and wrists, not to mention 2 pieces of Lionheart, being necklace and belt. So no -0.05 intervals from there.
And btw, once you start permasparking, that little loss in defense won't mean anything at all.
And really, it could just be that it's the price. When you've already gotten TT99 ornaments, TT99 wrists and boots and a Lunar Cape, any more -interval will cost you at least 100,000,000 coins. That is, except the Rank 4 armor.
Some do, but I see a lot of warsong belts/cube necklaces these days, so idk...
On a side note: using the PW Calculator, the highest aps I could get a sin up to was 2.86 aps. That's with TT99 sleeves/boots, Nirvana leggings/daggers and the rank 4 chest, lunar cape and love up and down tome. I wonder if it's broken...Some people risk to employ me
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Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »Some do, but I see a lot of warsong belts/cube necklaces these days, so idk...
Yeah, some regard that it's better that way. But then again, those people aren't going for 5 APS.On a side note: using the PW Calculator, the highest aps I could get a sin up to was 2.86 aps. That's with TT99 sleeves/boots, Nirvana leggings/daggers and the rank 4 chest, lunar cape and love up and down tome. I wonder if it's broken...
No, that is exactly correct.
The last 0.05 APS would have to come from the TT99 Lionheart Ornaments.
Also note that none of the sparks work correctly for Assassins or Psychics.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »Yeah, some regard that it's better that way. But then again, those people aren't going for 5 APS.
No, that is exactly correct.
The last 0.05 APS would have to come from the TT99 Lionheart Ornaments.
Also note that none of the sparks work correctly for Assassins or Psychics.
Yeah I saw that with the demon spark, so I know that's broken (only adds mag attack for sins).Some people risk to employ me
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Plus, switching to evasion ornaments kill your defense more than the rank armor does (especially once you start to refine).
For PvE, though, as long as you don't take aggro then your armor doesn't matter much. Plus, if you do take aggro, the little bit of defensive difference between the r4 top and the higher level ones won't really keep you alive much longer.
In terms of PvP... well... Sins have several survivability boosts that have nothing to do with their armor. That combined with the fact that you should always get the first hit in as one makes it so you have a bit more flexibility with what you can wear even if you can't afford more of the better gears at the time. (IE: rank 6 which is 96mil away from Rank 4 assuming you can buy tokens for their NPC price of 10k each0 -
more interval = more pwnage.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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You being a Barb, I understand your confusion (Forgive me if you have other DD alts, but your profile doesn't show any). As a class who's focus is on survival, this surly doesn't make sense to you. It probably appears to you the same way Barbs who shard citrines on their weapon appears to me.
What you have to understand is that out of all the interval gears, the rank 4 plate is one of the few cheaper ones. To give up that plate, it would cost much much more to make up with other interval gears. While having that plate make us weak against bosses, it actually helps PvE. The faster we hit, the faster we heal from Bloodpaint. If we aggro on a boss that kills us when we have rank 4 plate on, TT90 wouldn't make too much of a difference.
There's also the PvP aspects that people have mentioned.0 -
CHEAP!Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »You being a Barb, I understand your confusion (Forgive me if you have other DD alts, but your profile doesn't show any). As a class who's focus is on survival, this surly doesn't make sense to you. It probably appears to you the same way Barbs who shard citrines on their weapon appears to me.
What you have to understand is that out of all the interval gears, the rank 4 plate is one of the few cheaper ones. To give up that plate, it would cost much much more to make up with other interval gears. While having that plate make us weak against bosses, it actually helps PvE. The faster we hit, the faster we heal from Bloodpaint. If we aggro on a boss that kills us when we have rank 4 plate on, TT90 wouldn't make too much of a difference.
There's also the PvP aspects that people have mentioned.
5k Rep
At the 90s yeah at the 60 with barely 1.5~2k rep
U will waste 100k on each warith officer Badge
25x40 for each 1 k rep
Doesn't look that Cheap to me b:byeb:bye0 -
Can add now since last update tt90 chest is kinda expensive... (up to 3 mil for gba on my server)0
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kappow - Dreamweaver wrote: »more Interval = More Pwnage.
That Is It!0 -
NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »CHEAP!
5k Rep
At the 90s yeah at the 60 with barely 1.5~2k rep
U will waste 100k on each warith officer Badge
25x40 for each 1 k rep
Doesn't look that Cheap to me b:byeb:byeOkeano - Harshlands wrote: »out of all the interval gears, the rank 4 plate is one of the few cheaper ones.
Would you rather get the cape at 90 for 35 mil then? b:bye The cheapest coins/0.05 interval would be Blood Moon bracers then rank 4 top. No one said intervals are cheap, rank 4 top is just relatively cheaper than your other options.0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Would you rather get the cape at 90 for 35 mil then? b:bye The cheapest coins/0.05 interval would be Blood Moon bracers then rank 4 top. No one said intervals are cheap, rank 4 top is just relatively cheaper than your other options.
Bracers of Blood Moon is around 20million..0 -
Some dumb ppl sells for very low prices^^
Ive sold mine for 20 mil and bought another one next day for 6mil
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And I was starting to think That Buying Solemn Feathers for 500k and finding the Geek to sell for 2million was Sneaky ..lolhothakalasha wrote: »Some dumb ppl sells for very low prices^^
Ive sold mine for 20 mil and bought another one next day for 6mil0 -
NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »Bracers of Blood Moon is around 20million..
They only take around 8 mil to make. Even at 20 mil that's 10 mil per 0.05 which is a lot cheaper than others that's not rank 4 top.0 -
More interval=more heals from Bloodpaint.
Yeah, the added defense from higher level armor would be nice, but most sins don't consider themselves primary tanks, especially when they don't have full -int gear. So, as long as we don't steal aggro on bosses, the extra damage we'll deal will just help us do our DDing jobs faster.
As for the Bracers of Blood Moon, I got mine for 11 mil with +3 and three flawless garnets and am loving them, especially when I hit near 2 APS with Relentless Courage on. Next goal for me is the rank 4 top, which I hate is more expensive, since it's only -.05 int compared to the bracers' -.1... Still, higher attack speed ftw. It may not seem like much numbers-wise, but every bit makes a difference.0 -
Kyrael - Dreamweaver wrote: »More interval=more heals from Bloodpaint.
Yeah, the added defense from higher level armor would be nice, but most sins don't consider themselves primary tanks, especially when they don't have full -int gear. So, as long as we don't steal aggro on bosses, the extra damage we'll deal will just help us do our DDing jobs faster.
As for the Bracers of Blood Moon, I got mine for 11 mil with +3 and three flawless garnets and am loving them, especially when I hit near 2 APS with Relentless Courage on. Next goal for me is the rank 4 top, which I hate is more expensive, since it's only -.05 int compared to the bracers' -.1... Still, higher attack speed ftw. It may not seem like much numbers-wise, but every bit makes a difference.
here is a nice question
how the hell a non Cash Shopping Player get those bracers at 60 ..0 -
NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »here is a nice question
how the hell a non Cash Shopping Player get those bracers at 60 ..
An alt?
I'll be using Bracers of Blood Moon as soon as my sin gets 60. The reason for that is because my main is a 92 Archer. And I've never cash shopped.
Oh, and mine will be +3 with 4 Flawlesses, which I made myself.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »An alt?
I'll be using Bracers of Blood Moon as soon as my sin gets 60. The reason for that is because my main is a 92 Archer. And I've never cash shopped.
Oh, and mine will be +3 with 4 Flawlesses, which I made myself.
Okay then Enjoy..
Really what should I say..0 -
NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »Okay then Enjoy..
Really what should I say..
Yeah, coupled with the Sharpen proc on TT60, I predict lots of QQ from barbs in BH51.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »Yeah, coupled with the Sharpen proc on TT60, I predict lots of QQ from barbs in BH51.
b:chuckleb:chuckle
Never thought Being QQed is that fun lol 0 -
Merchant? IDK, for a non CS player that can't even afford Blood Moon, you seems to be pretty convinced of the HA build that requires 5 APS unsparked.NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »here is a nice question
how the hell a non Cash Shopping Player get those bracers at 60 ..
I'm non-CS, with no higher main on Harshlands, and I got my wifey's bracers before she reached 60.0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Merchant? IDK, for a non CS player that can't even afford Blood Moon, you seems to be pretty convinced of the HA build that requires 5 APS unsparked.
I'm non-CS, with no higher main on Harshlands, and I got my wifey's bracers before she reached 60.
Actually I'll Restate to HA at 90 lol
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I got mine for somewhere between 5 and 6 mil buying dragon orders. Had the mats all farmed beforehand and the bloods were waiting in my inventory. Used a few of my celestone fragments and got them to +4 without any dragon orbs. Got 4 flawless citrines cheap (around 120k each). Need a few more socket stones to get the 4th socket in them but for all that the cost shouldn't be over 8 mil total.NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »Bracers of Blood Moon is around 20million..
May I ask where you're getting 20 mil from?NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »here is a nice question
how the hell a non Cash Shopping Player get those bracers at 60 ..
Don't waste coins on useless items and check the auction hall for cheap dragon orders. Don't even need to merchant much (if at all). By level 56 I had the mold sitting in my bank with the mats and after my FB59 I had all the blood I needed as well. At 60 I made them, sharded them, and refined them.
My cashshopping on HL is limited to 10 gold I spent on dyes for some fashion I already had. My highest level character on HL before I made my sin was a 4x archer with 300k coins on her which I deleted before I remembered to get her coins.This alt has been brought to you by lkurei - Harshlands.
I'm a guy. b:sad
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NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »here is a nice question
how the hell a non Cash Shopping Player get those bracers at 60 ..
It's very possible if you don't waste your coins. Grind mobs istead of just doing BH, don't spend coins on crazy stone, etc.
I didn't get mine till 70, but that's because I didn't really decide to go for them till 65, and then decided to stay at 70 until I got them. My genie loved me for that. Then I spent hours a day grinding, merchanting, etc., and I bought up Dragon Orders. (Eventually someone sold +3 bracers with 3 flawless garnets in them in the AH, though, so I sold the orders I had and picked them up right quick.)
It's quite possible to get them. Rank 4's gonna be harder, but I'll live. It's all relatively achievable, just takes time and effort. Hopefully when I outgrow them I can sell my bracers for at least as much as I payed, or send them to an alt/factionmate.
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