lol people ignorant about pk on carebear ???
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Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Explain how? Because I have done both and I only see the charm difference other then morals which people sometimes follow.
Duel you have 3 seconds to prepare your attack. You can also both decide to relog, no buffs, no chi or full buffs full chi Most people who duel usually like to have full chi. The person that can get the quickest initial attack holds the main advantage. In duels, you generally don't do the same things you would do in PvP. You're also not likely to use a genie, pk pots, attack or defense charms or hp pots in a duel, it would be a waste. Most duels are on the ground. Most PvP is in the air. In PvP you often need to be able to take them low enough to bypass a charm or kill them before their charm cooldown is over. As a veno, bramble guard does not work in PvP, bramble hood doesn't reflect damage either. Duels really don't prove anything except you're good at dueling.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
In duels i usually just go all out and WIN. That's kind of like the fun part. If someone complains about me breaking some stupid rule about potting or genies i'll give them a second chance... Then do whatever was it they were complaining about and watch them qq moar. b:sin
Duels aren't anything resembling actual PvP so who cares? Anyone complaining about being defeated in a duel or making excuses about it is pathetic and this attitude of placing any importance in what their outcome says about your char is fail. If you're going to duel at all do it for fun. And winning is always more fun whatever the other guy says... b:chuckle0 -
On PK you fight for the sake of your stuff or to steal other people stuff b:laugh (that's why people go all the way out)
Though now there lock system, it borrow good & bad things together
I think it lower PK number though . . PK for nothing ? b:surrender I don't want
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MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Other difference is you not died in the end when dueling
guess she doesn't want to lose stuff that's understandable b:chuckle
and charms are disabled in duels... and its only 1 vs 1 which is fair (unless huge level gap). That veno makes a smart move and the OP seems to be whining. PVP addicts are pretty laughable. I would not go in PK mode or PK anyone. Its like mugging contest... Same thing as scamming people. Some players do not want items dropped or even bothering with binding charms or safety lock.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »and charms are disabled in duels... and its only 1 vs 1 which is fair (unless huge level gap). That veno makes a smart move and the OP seems to be whining. PVP addicts are pretty laughable. I would not go in PK mode or PK anyone. Its like mugging contest... Same thing as scamming people. Some players do not want items dropped or even bothering with binding charms or safety lock.
So the only way I can farm-kill you is while you're in the cube? That's a shame.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Duel you have 3 seconds to prepare your attack. You can also both decide to relog, no buffs, no chi or full buffs full chi Most people who duel usually like to have full chi. The person that can get the quickest initial attack holds the main advantage. In duels, you generally don't do the same things you would do in PvP. You're also not likely to use a genie, pk pots, attack or defense charms or hp pots in a duel, it would be a waste. Most duels are on the ground. Most PvP is in the air. In PvP you often need to be able to take them low enough to bypass a charm or kill them before their charm cooldown is over. As a veno, bramble guard does not work in PvP, bramble hood doesn't reflect damage either. Duels really don't prove anything except you're good at dueling.
So thats to say that you can't do the same in pvp? I fail to see where its not the same with the exception for charms. What your saying is different is the attitude towards the combat which changes per person.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
all i see are 2 noobs arguing over something not worth arguing forlol ya. i shouted in wc more then a few times. that veno heres the funny thing and the sad thing at the same time.
veno: duels and pk are the same thing just in pk you can drop items
me: na theres a difference. unlike duels there are no ruels. you can use genies. apoth, pots the element of suprise. and it a few others
veno: so your saying in pk yoru skill lvls increase
me: no just saying theres more to it then just skills
veno: ok so is that a yes or a no skills increase in pk
veno: just say yes or no that they increase in pk
me: it's not as simple as that
veno: just say yes or no
me: seems you don't get it are you dense or something.
veno: so your saying yes skills increase in pk
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veno:i'll even bet 10m that i'm right cause skills don't increase in pk from pvp. i have ss of me in pk and ss of me not in pk theres no difference. i win
me: no they don't now your just twisting my words around
ps: it didn't go exactly like this but it's the closest that i can recall. all she did on further arguments was keep saying that skills don't increase in pk regardless of what i said. so i just gave up on it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »all i see are 2 noobs arguing over something not worth arguing for
This be more entertaining....
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Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »So thats to say that you can't do the same in pvp? I fail to see where its not the same with the exception for charms. What your saying is different is the attitude towards the combat which changes per person.
Actually re-read my message? I'm not about to rewrite it because you don't get it.
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I'm not intentionally generalizing an entire pve server cause i know this isn't true. but it's the only way i could think of to actually get people to read the thread and get a decent response while not naming any names. i do apologize to the intelligent players on pve servers that may be insulted by it.
Ignore him.
Problem solved.
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Duel you have 3 seconds to prepare your attack.
You can do this in PvP
You can also both decide to relog, no buffs, no chi or full buffs full chi Most people who duel usually like to have full chi.
You can also do this in PvP
The person that can get the quickest initial attack holds the main advantage. In duels, you generally don't do the same things you would do in PvP.
The same applies to PvP
You're also not likely to use a genie, pk pots, attack or defense charms or hp pots in a duel, it would be a waste.
Depends on the person
Most duels are on the ground. Most PvP is in the air.
Ground-air combat doesn't change the combat drastically.
In PvP you often need to be able to take them low enough to bypass a charm or kill them before their charm cooldown is over.
Charms the one difference between duels
As a veno, bramble guard does not work in PvP, bramble hood doesn't reflect damage either. Duels really don't prove anything except you're good at dueling.
Duels don't prove anything just like PvP doesn't either. And Hood and guard work the same in Duels
So please tell me where duels are different then PvP? Quite frankly the only thing I see are charms so enlighten me whats different? (other then charms and ganking)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Your edit fails white names can't drop anything that was a bug and that was fixed a few months back and if people are dropping stuff with a GA that is also a bug and that shouldn't be happening.
And your veno seems smarter then you give it credit for the only difference is charms in PK provided your talking 1v1 and thats what your veno is thinking the only difference is the charm so it doesn't care to go into PK to prove a point to someone who thinks they are smarter then them. Also I am going to take a wild guess and say you lost to this veno in a duel.
Actually, some of the genie skills are different, too. I remember seeing one skill that said it could only be used for monsters, duel and TW (which leaves out PvP) though I forget which it was. I'll have to go check...
In any event, unless it was an incorrect description (and in this game, I wouldn't be surprised b:chuckle) then there is that difference.0 -
Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »So please tell me where duels are different then PvP? Quite frankly the only thing I see are charms so enlighten me whats different? (other then charms and ganking)
So true, Michael_dark is a level 102 max interval idiot.
Only ganking and charms are the same and... genies / apoth / pots in duels and PVP... I loled so hard at that Michael can't PVP without charms or genies or apoth. I find it funny that the "pros" need genies to win. I bet they even have it worse in PVE because they really have to have good "PVE genies" too. Making PK and duels a non factor. I wouldn't be surprised if these "pros" gank others too. I rather use genie skill earthflame in PVP than true emptiness.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »So please tell me where duels are different then PvP? Quite frankly the only thing I see are charms so enlighten me whats different? (other then charms and ganking)
If you're going to respond, at least do it properly. I'm not going to overcome your laziness to req-quote what you said that doesn't show up when I press the "quote" button.
You don't have any PvP experience, so you think it's the same as dueling. I get you. You can hit a golf ball so you must know what it's like in the PGA too I bet.
Oh, I will quote you once for this gem:And Hood and guard work the same in Duels
No, they don't work the same. Bramble Guard reflects 60/75% of physical damage. Bramble Hood reflects 200% of physical damage taken and reduces damage taken by 75%. They don't work the same and Bramble Hood only reduces damage taken in PvP, neither of them reflect damage in PvP. My alt veno is only lvl 86 and I even know this much...Yulk wrote:crickets chirping
Yulk, you're an idiot, nothing you say has any importance. b:byeI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »If you're going to respond, at least do it properly. I'm not going to overcome your laziness to req-quote what you said that doesn't show up when I press the "quote" button.
You don't have any PvP experience, so you think it's the same as dueling. I get you. You can hit a golf ball so you must know what it's like in the PGA too I bet.
Yulk, you're an idiot, nothing you say has any importance. b:bye
Wait wait wait I don't have PvP experience? Please tell me your joking............
Ah and as for that its laziness on your part copypasta buddy. I even made the text red and italic for yah so you could see it. Honestly I have done both they are the same and at least by me are treated the same. And comparing that to that is very weak you could have at least compared it to something relevant like if you have pked you must know what TW is like. And before you go off on me saying thats what you mean I am saying when you fight in PK you pick and choose your battles you don't go gung ho into 6 ****ing enemies and hope to come out on the top unless your AoE is going to kill them before they get to you.
Also don't get lazy again and say I ain't responding properly thats a excuse pick up your hands off your hot wings and actually type something that isn't a excuse saying I am lazy.
No, they don't work the same. Bramble Guard reflects 60/75% of physical damage. Bramble Hood reflects 200% of physical damage taken and reduces damage taken by 75%. They don't work the same and Bramble Hood only reduces damage taken in PvP, neither of them reflect damage in PvP. My alt veno is only lvl 86 and I even know this much...
Alright fine I'll bite I probably worded that badly but I thought it wouldn't be taken out of context like you just did I meant the same as pvp it works the same in duels as it does in pvp.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wait wait wait I don't have PvP experience? Please tell me your joking............
Apparently not if you don't think there's a difference to PvP and Dueling. That's like saying PvP is the same as TW. It's not.
As a veno, you can usually kill almost any heavy in a Duel. Hell, even my friend who is a lvl 85 veno can win half the time in duels. She doesn't last for more than a second on the open map against me. She thought the same thing you did, so I told her we should go to a safe location and PvP for a while. It's really not the same.Ah and as for that its laziness on your part copypasta buddy. I even made the text red and italic for yah so you could see it.
Yes, I can see it, but when I hit the quote button it disappears. It's laziness on my part? Are you really that stupid? I'm taking the time to write *bracket* quote *bracket* to each of your points. I'm being the lazy one? You're a nut job if you really believe that.Honestly I have done both they are the same and at least by me are treated the same. And comparing that to that is very weak you could have at least compared it to something relevant like if you have pked you must know what TW is like. And before you go off on me saying thats what you mean I am saying when you fight in PK you pick and choose your battles you don't go gung ho into 6 ****ing enemies and hope to come out on the top unless your AoE is going to kill them before they get to you.
/facepalm
PvP isn't like TW. TW is completely different as well.Also don't get lazy again and say I ain't responding properly thats a excuse pick up your hands off your hot wings and actually type something that isn't a excuse saying I am lazy.
Sorry, making red text is only slightly less difficult than actually breaking up a post to properly quote. As you can witness, I take the time to do that so you can actually choose what to reply to or disregard. Sorry, who is the one being lazy and inconsiderate?Alright fine I'll bite I probably worded that badly but I thought it wouldn't be taken out of context like you just did I meant the same as pvp it works the same in duels as it does in pvp.
OMG. No, they don't work the same in duels as they do in PvP. Bramble reflect only works in duels, TW, cube, Tournament and probably Dragon Temple. If you turn your silly little blue name off on the open map, Bramble does not reflect at all. *shrug*I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
They might have been doing PK in one of the instances that allows bramble to reflect. Two I know off the top of my head are Warsong and Rebirth instances. Just drop group and beat down whoever ya want.
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Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wait wait wait I don't have PvP experience? Please tell me your joking............
Nah, he's serious... b:laugh Laughable, but yeah...
Seriously... he think he is pro because he have max intervals with OP genies, a common axe idiot BM in disguise.
On top of that... a common "pro" on PK server...
Michael_dark is too scared of PVPing without his precious genie[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »Nah, he's serious... b:laugh Laughable, but yeah...
Seriously... he think he is pro because he have max intervals with OP genies, a common axe idiot BM in disguise.
On top of that... a common "pro" on PK server...
Michael_dark is too scared of PVPing without his precious genie
Except you're the one who won't turn on your white name...hmm...
This reminds me of the wizard I PKed today. QQed something about me using stuns. I can imagine that coming from you Yulk. Like when a wizard gushes you, you'd probably reply with "U SLOW ME, UNOOB? U NEED SLOW???"[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »Nah, he's serious... b:laugh Laughable, but yeah...
Seriously... he think he is pro because he have max intervals with OP genies, a common axe idiot BM in disguise.
On top of that... a common "pro" on PK server...
Michael_dark is too scared of PVPing without his precious genie
Yulk. You are dumb. Uninstall your web browser.0 -
Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »They might have been doing PK in one of the instances that allows bramble to reflect. Two I know off the top of my head are Warsong and Rebirth instances. Just drop group and beat down whoever ya want.
Open world PvP it's as michael said; no reflect.
You can't duel in Warsong. You can't duel in Cube either. I don't think you can duel in PK Tourney.... most people are actually killing each other to find out. lolI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Apparently not if you don't think there's a difference to PvP and Dueling. That's like saying PvP is the same as TW. It's not.
As a veno, you can usually kill almost any heavy in a Duel. Hell, even my friend who is a lvl 85 veno can win half the time in duels. She doesn't last for more than a second on the open map against me. She thought the same thing you did, so I told her we should go to a safe location and PvP for a while. It's really not the same.
Yes, I can see it, but when I hit the quote button it disappears. It's laziness on my part? Are you really that stupid? I'm taking the time to write *bracket* quote *bracket* to each of your points. I'm being the lazy one? You're a nut job if you really believe that.
/facepalm
PvP isn't like TW. TW is completely different as well.
Sorry, making red text is only slightly less difficult than actually breaking up a post to properly quote. As you can witness, I take the time to do that so you can actually choose what to reply to or disregard. Sorry, who is the one being lazy and inconsiderate?
OMG. No, they don't work the same in duels as they do in PvP. Bramble reflect only works in duels, TW, cube, Tournament and probably Dragon Temple. If you turn your silly little blue name off on the open map, Bramble does not reflect at all. *shrug*
God your impossible I have proven you wrong and you still persist my lord. PvP is the same as a damned duel if its not your doing it wrong.
Ah and to put a point on this copypasta +[/QUOTE <---thats a button btw real easy to highlight and press the button.
I said TW was completely different or did you fail to read that? Hmmm you might be right about the open map reflect thing but wow a little bit of damage thats totally going to smart.
Although I have seen it work but I can't remember if those were memories of before they patched it or after so I will give you that.
Duels are still exactly the same as PvP just at a closer distance to start with and without charms please nitpic more. b:surrender Oh yah btw you can check my 1300+ kills and see if I know how to kill. I am sorry if you feel I am insulting you in some way which is the only reason I can see why you would try to call out my skill among other things.
Other then that it has been a few months since I actually killed something so I am a tad rusty on rules and skills so if I forget the precise applications of every skill in game don't hold it too much against me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »God your impossible I have proven you wrong and you still persist my lord. PvP is the same as a damned duel if its not your doing it wrong.
Ah and to put a point on this copypasta + /QUOTE <---thats a button btw real easy to highlight and press the button.
I said TW was completely different or did you fail to read that? Hmmm you might be right about the open map reflect thing but wow a little bit of damage thats totally going to smart.
Although I have seen it work but I can't remember if those were memories of before they patched it or after so I will give you that.
Duels are still exactly the same as PvP just at a closer distance to start with and without charms please nitpic more. b:surrender Oh yah btw you can check my 1300+ kills and see if I know how to kill. I am sorry if you feel I am insulting you in some way which is the only reason I can see why you would try to call out my skill among other things.
Other then that it has been a few months since I actually killed something so I am a tad rusty on rules and skills so if I forget the precise applications of every skill in game don't hold it too much against me.
You're about as right about PvP = Duels as you are about YOUR OWN DAMN SKILLS. Jesus Christ, you don't even know the difference in how they work in PvP or Dueling.
Geez. I know I'm an ****, but you're just wrong and you can't handle even being called on it.
No, you didn't state that PK wasn't the same thing as TW. You just said 'And comparing that to that is very weak you could have at least compared it to something relevant like if you have pked you must know what TW is'.
PvP does not necessarily mean 1v1. Many times I've had multiple people attack me. There was no 3, 2, 1 START. You don't set there and get your chi and make sure the other person is ready. Half of the time you don't even know it's going to happen when it actually does. One time I was doing MQ and 4 white named members of a faction that is on free to kill just decide to randomly attack me. I had no clue it was coming, they were all 9x, and I killed all four of them. I nearly died a few times, but I had to decide which targets were priority, reactively decide if I need to pot, pop a defense charm, manage my genie stamina, all so that I made sure I wasn't too vulnerable at any given time or I'd die.
Sorry, duels and PvP are two completely different things. A duel is a mutual decision. PvP in most circumstances is completely spontaneous. Even the skills you would use and how you react are different.
Sorry, you don't even have a grip on what your own main's skills are. Sorry, can't take your opinion all that seriously. :PI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Duels are still exactly the same as PvP just at a closer distance to start with and without charms please nitpic more.
If there are differences then its not exactly the same >_> Duels are similar to PK, if that's what you're getting at.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »You can't duel in Warsong. You can't duel in Cube either. I don't think you can duel in PK Tourney.... most people are actually killing each other to find out. lol
b:surrender I have dueled in Warsong before b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »b:surrender I have dueled in Warsong before b:surrender
I can't...like you can attack but the hits never land you just get chi for them but no actual damage.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Coraline - Lost City wrote: »I can't...like you can attack but the hits never land you just get chi for them but no actual damage.
^^ this. The only way to end the duel is wait for it to time out or to jump off the edge. b:surrenderI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »You're about as right about PvP = Duels as you are about YOUR OWN DAMN SKILLS. Jesus Christ, you don't even know the difference in how they work in PvP or Dueling.
Geez. I know I'm an ****, but you're just wrong and you can't handle even being called on it.
No, you didn't state that PK wasn't the same thing as TW. You just said 'And comparing that to that is very weak you could have at least compared it to something relevant like if you have pked you must know what TW is'.
PvP does not necessarily mean 1v1. Many times I've had multiple people attack me. There was no 3, 2, 1 START. You don't set there and get your chi and make sure the other person is ready. Half of the time you don't even know it's going to happen when it actually does. One time I was doing MQ and 4 white named members of a faction that is on free to kill just decide to randomly attack me. I had no clue it was coming, they were all 9x, and I killed all four of them. I nearly died a few times, but I had to decide which targets were priority, reactively decide if I need to pot, pop a defense charm, manage my genie stamina, all so that I made sure I wasn't too vulnerable at any given time or I'd die.
Sorry, duels and PvP are two completely different things. A duel is a mutual decision. PvP in most circumstances is completely spontaneous. Even the skills you would use and how you react are different.
Sorry, you don't even have a grip on what your own main's skills are. Sorry, can't take your opinion all that seriously. :P
Um oh dear I told you not to hold it against me but you did sigh can't please you I suppose.
Yes Duels are by choice but PvP is also by choice you can choose to stay in the safe zone while this doesn't apply to you. We have never been talking about what happens in PvP this conversation was about the mechanics of Duels Vs PvP which are the same with the exception of a couple skills being nerfed, multiple opponents possible and charms which is EXACTLY what I said (minus the skills cause I didn't think it would matter).
The veno in the story was not talking about the running around getting killed but rather the actual act of fighting which seems to be missed by all the PvP people. The act of fighting in PK is pretty much the same as a duel which has been the driving point in my side since the start. I nor do anyone else who doesn't regularly pk through time passed or unwillingness to do so care about how you can be killed by more then one person.
Better? Did that explain the stance I have taken better to you because you don't seem to understand.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yes Duels are by choice but PvP is also by choice you can choose to stay in the safe zone while this doesn't apply to you. We have never been talking about what happens in PvP this conversation was about the mechanics of Duels Vs PvP which are the same with the exception of a couple skills being nerfed, multiple opponents possible and charms which is EXACTLY what I said (minus the skills cause I didn't think it would matter).
Ok that's starting to sound a lot less like a duel.
Dueling:
You're sitting there minding your own business and all of a sudden you're almost startled by the *knock knock* sound and a little box with a question mark on it... you click it and it is an invite to duel. What do you do? Check to see who it is, maybe look at their gear, look to see if you have chi and maybe ask for chi if you don't have it, ask if genies are ok, think about what skills or combos you might want to use then the duel request times out and you ask if they're ready and then you send another duel invite and actually duel.
PvP:
You're sitting there minding your own business and all of a sudden you're startled as you take 3k points of damage... what do you do?I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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