What`s the sence to play veno ?

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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    PaMpeReD - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    u dun have to do RB's nor FF's ive never done revamped ff and ive played since CB ...and yeah well current gold price is lil blubbed up...year ago friend grinded herc in 3 weeks or so now it would take like 6weeks for him..but hes 24/7 on wat i cant understand but in teh end when u get that herc u will get ur monies back ^^

    and before some1 says smt abt my english ..im from finland and old so shhh =)

    You actually do need RB if you want to get your 100 culti done b:surrender
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  • PaMpeReD - Heavens Tear
    PaMpeReD - Heavens Tear Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You actually do need RB if you want to get your 100 culti done b:surrender

    i know but i dun care of em...i still havent finished that OHT "culti" sori scramble ^^ im on PvE server so for me its same :D
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    dude i have persona life . I can`t do more then 2 TTs a day . And from each TT i can make 500 k max . 1 mil a day 80 mil for herc = 3 months b:bye

    Wth? Run 1 or 2 2-2s a day. If touch drops that's at least a 5m gold mat? You know, it's not that rare of a drop either. Sorry, 2-2 is a profitable run if you solo or run 2 person split. It's not my fault you don't know your mats. b:bye
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  • LadySam - Heavens Tear
    LadySam - Heavens Tear Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Wth? Run 1 or 2 2-2s a day. If touch drops that's at least a 5m gold mat? You know, it's not that rare of a drop either. Sorry, 2-2 is a profitable run if you solo or run 2 person split. It's not my fault you don't know your mats. b:bye

    2-3 is much better . I don`t do 2-2 . And btw when gold mat drops you split the mat ! And the chanse to get that mat is low ...
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    2-3 is much better . I don`t do 2-2 . And btw when gold mat drops you split the mat ! And the chanse to get that mat is low ...

    Actually the chance ot get touch of seven is about 10% if memory serves correctly.

    2-3 is only profitable if you're doing Belial as well. In 2-3 the only two mats worthwhile are arms and antenna. A single veno can't solo Wurlord. Astral isn't worth doing unless you're going after belial gold... astral stones are hardly worth anything, power of the seven is pretty much worthless. 2-2 is a quicker run and drops better gold, imo. 1-3 is more profitable, but it's also a considerably longer run and is more difficult than either.
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  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    dude i have persona life . I can`t do more then 2 TTs a day . And from each TT i can make 500 k max . 1 mil a day 80 mil for herc = 3 months b:bye

    TT isn't anything I could do, and if I could then most certainly not every day, but it doesn't sound THAT bad for a Hercules. It doesn't come with those special skills, though?

    Especially since with these numbers you can setup a reasonable countdown. "160 TT runs for my herc", and whenever you have some time to waste you can decide whether you want to decrease that number or do something else.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    dude i have persona life . I can`t do more then 2 TTs a day . And from each TT i can make 500 k max . 1 mil a day 80 mil for herc = 3 months b:bye
    Well then it will take a whopping three months, won't it, unless you wanna fork over a few hundred dollars. In later TTs or FF squads, people tend to want a veno with a herc. Herc venos are way more prominent in HT at this level than you suggest. It's because of the simplicity of herc buffs and the ease it is to just spam heal for them. If you want to be cheap and lazy, find a pet to put those buffs on from those who sell the DT scrolls. If you can't invest the time or money into something that makes you a lot more useful, don't complain when you don't get invited to things. This applies to every class, not just veno.

    Also, I'm sure it's been iterated by now in this topic that a herc is not all that necessary in delta by any means. In fact, it's easily done without a veno at all. I've never ever once seen a PM on my veno or a world chat declaring a veno doing rb must have a herc. For FF, that's because people want you to be able to do decent DPS (being two DDs) and even tank most bosses in that instance if needed.
  • Pattoe - Raging Tide
    Pattoe - Raging Tide Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ok this is an mmorpg, things are supposed to be hard, your supposed to grind and grind and grind for coins, and you can make a lot more than 500k-1mil for day, trust me.
    But even if, for some mad reason, you couldnt. 3 months into an mmorpg isnt all that bad if you get what you want.
    Anyone else sick of the new breed of mmorpg gamer who expects everything in 10 minutes on a silver platter?
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    dude i have persona life . I can`t do more then 2 TTs a day . And from each TT i can make 500 k max . 1 mil a day 80 mil for herc = 3 months b:bye

    your join date is may 2009, which means you've been playing for 14 months at least. not everything is attainable after doing a quest or at the drop of a hat. if you want it work for it, if you dont want to make you character more useful by getting a valuable tool for it that requires some work to get, you only have yourself to blame.

    would you descriminate against a level 8x still using a TT60 sword or the supply stash sword, or against a lvl 100 barb still wearing lvl 7x mold gear "cause the repair costs are lower"? Hell yeah you would because its obvious that these people are not interested in improving their character, they just want to level up, and be a 100 with **** gear, where guess what, you'll get kicked from squad as soon as someone looks at your gear.

    like you said, it would take you 3 months of casual playing at your current pace to save up for a herc, this sounds about right for most people, and about the amount of time most people take to get one. so make an effort to get one. a lvl 100 veno without a herc and a nix is an undergeared veno.

    nobody is taking a 9x cleric with level 80 gear on a RB delta
    nobody is taking a 9x barb with 7x mold anywhere
    nobody is taking a bm without a good deal of int gear to nirvava (interval gear is considerably more expensive than a herc btw)

    high level gear is expensive and take some work to get it, but its quite rewarding when you accomplish a goal.
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  • Tonttuu - Heavens Tear
    Tonttuu - Heavens Tear Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    your join date is may 2009, which means you've been playing for 14 months at least. .

    forum join date doesnt mean anything my join date is august 2008 =)
  • Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    your join date is may 2009, which means you've been playing for 14 months at least. not everything is attainable after doing a quest or at the drop of a hat. if you want it work for it, if you dont want to make you character more useful by getting a valuable tool for it that requires some work to get, you only have yourself to blame.

    would you descriminate against a level 8x still using a TT60 sword or the supply stash sword, or against a lvl 100 barb still wearing lvl 7x mold gear "cause the repair costs are lower"? Hell yeah you would because its obvious that these people are not interested in improving their character, they just want to level up, and be a 100 with **** gear, where guess what, you'll get kicked from squad as soon as someone looks at your gear.

    like you said, it would take you 3 months of casual playing at your current pace to save up for a herc, this sounds about right for most people, and about the amount of time most people take to get one. so make an effort to get one. a lvl 100 veno without a herc and a nix is an undergeared veno.

    nobody is taking a 9x cleric with level 80 gear on a RB delta
    nobody is taking a 9x barb with 7x mold anywhere
    nobody is taking a bm without a good deal of int gear to nirvava (interval gear is considerably more expensive than a herc btw)

    high level gear is expensive and take some work to get it, but its quite rewarding when you accomplish a goal.

    by this logic u would kick everyone that does not have a warsoul weapon cuz they are "undergeared". herc is not needed at all, it never was and it never will be.

    being undergeared and not following the common builds/gears is two completely different things.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Tonttuu - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    forum join date doesnt mean anything my join date is august 2008 =)

    you sure about that?
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary wrote: »
    by this logic u would kick everyone that does not have a warsoul weapon cuz they are "undergeared". herc is not needed at all, it never was and it never will be.

    is that really the logical conclusion of what I said, or are you just being a contrary-mary for the fun of it?
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  • Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    [QUOTE=is that really the logical conclusion of what I said, or are you just being a contrary-mary for the fun of it?[/QUOTE]

    if its not then i guess u mean hercs is not needed afterall.

    u could play whitout herc before and u can still play whitout a herc, gettin one is completely optional.
  • Tonttuu - Heavens Tear
    Tonttuu - Heavens Tear Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you sure about that?

    yes i joined before closed beta on forums also my venos avatar says i joined october 2008 even i hopped on forums august 2008 =)
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary wrote: »
    by this logic u would kick everyone that does not have a warsoul weapon cuz they are "undergeared". herc is not needed at all, it never was and it never will be.

    being undergeared and not following the common builds/gears is two completely different things.
    So many horrendous points made, where to begin..

    Only one person on all PWI servers has a warsoul weapon, to my knowledge. Hercs are especially useful for tanking when you a) can't find a barb, and b) want bosses to go faster but also can't find a huge DPS squad for FF. This is where an axe build or pulling bm is useful too, to replace a barb.

    An enormous amount of venos have hercs. They are in demand, they get asked for, because mostly, they can solo heal bosses. If this is not your cup of tea, then by all means, don't bother squadding with herc venos or asking specifically for one when going to certain instances. There are absolutely rational reasons they are in such demand, and there are enough venos to fit the demand, unlike your warsoul weapon analogy, which is well out in left field. However, we can compare that a "common build" BM or archer is not in demand for instances like Nirvana, versus one with, say, Deicide claws or Striking Dragons, the former of which cost a little less than a herc, and if you include other -int gear, well more than a herc.

    Not having a herc as a veno, at very least, on a PVE server, by the time you start reaching 90+, is being undergeared. Sorry. It is. Venos are very quick at making coin with spending little to nothing in pots and repairs, even with a crappy pet. Getting a herc is reasonably attainable.

    Tonttuu - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    forum join date doesnt mean anything my join date is august 2008 =)
    your join date is may 2009, which means you've been playing for 14 months at least. .

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  • Tonttuu - Heavens Tear
    Tonttuu - Heavens Tear Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    .

    The key is reading.

    no teh beer is reading :P
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LadySam - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    After lvl 90 it`ll get harder and harder to get BH/ FF/ TT/RB squad but you can hand this .
    100+ is the challenge . The BHs are in RB and TTs . Venos are doomed without hercs b:surrender

    Not true at all. I have never once been asked if I have a herc when I joined a BH squad, and since a veno isn't even necessary in RB (easily replaced with assassin) a herc certainly isn't. Same goes for TT. Might have trouble with Nirvana on occasion, but with that instance it is always best to go with people you know anyway, which would solve that problem as a herc isn't needed there either.

    TBH I think 90-100 is more of a challenge than 100+.
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  • Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So many horrendous points made, where to begin..

    Only one person on all PWI servers has a warsoul weapon, to my knowledge. Hercs are especially useful for tanking when you a) can't find a barb, and b) want bosses to go faster but also can't find a huge DPS squad for FF. This is where an axe build or pulling bm is useful too, to replace a barb.

    An enormous amount of venos have hercs. They are in demand, they get asked for, because mostly, they can solo heal bosses. If this is not your cup of tea, then by all means, don't bother squadding with herc venos or asking specifically for one when going to certain instances. There are absolutely rational reasons they are in such demand, and there are enough venos to fit the demand, unlike your warsoul weapon analogy, which is well out in left field. However, we can compare that a "common build" BM or archer is not in demand for instances like Nirvana, versus one with, say, Deicide claws or Striking Dragons, the former of which cost a little less than a herc, and if you include other -int gear, well more than a herc.

    Not having a herc as a veno, at very least, on a PVE server, by the time you start reaching 90+, is being undergeared. Sorry. It is. Venos are very quick at making coin with spending little to nothing in pots and repairs, even with a crappy pet. Getting a herc is reasonably attainable.


    yes i may have gone alittle too far with warsouls but point is u dont "need" a herc and calling it undergeared is wrong imo, gear is something u need to keep updated, its a matter of survival hercs on the other hand is not.

    hercs make things easier yes and alot of squads wont take a non-herc veno, but yet agian they dont relly need one to finnish whatever they squadding for. its just for making things faster and that alone defeats the whole "u need a herc at 90+" idea.

    if a veno does not want a herc fine by me, and if she wants one sure np. bottom line is that hercs are optional and u can play fine whitout it.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    you can play with 7x mold at end game too, you will just be under-geared, TT99 or even 90 is not a necessity either, but dont be surprised when you're picked last for the kickball team.

    @Tonttuu: i replied that way becuase you avatar says joined feb 2009, not august 2008 =D
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yes i may have gone alittle too far with warsouls but point is u dont "need" a herc and calling it undergeared is wrong imo, gear is something u need to keep updated, its a matter of survival hercs on the other hand is not.

    hercs make things easier yes and alot of squads wont take a non-herc veno, but yet agian they dont relly need one to finnish whatever they squadding for. its just for making things faster and that alone defeats the whole "u need a herc at 90+" idea.

    if a veno does not want a herc fine by me, and if she wants one sure np. bottom line is that hercs are optional and u can play fine whitout it.

    So it's ok if Clerics don't have rez, BMs don't have HF, Barbs don't have Flesh Ream, and Archers don't have arrows? -None of that stuff is needed either.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Find another veno... run 2-2 Squad with 2 people... farm for iron bars, dust of star and touch. If you do this a few times every day, within a month or two you should be able to save up for a herc.
    I already addressed this "exclusivity" issue. When I farmed TT3-1 on my server Evil Minion Horns sold for ~500k, it was really profitable since it's a real easy TT and many people want TT90. No double drops have been put in the meantime, but now a lot more people farm it, market is flooded, and they barely sell for ~300k anymore, mostly ~150-225k. Advices like this rarely work because it depends on server situation and exclusivity.
    tweakz wrote: »
    So it's ok if Clerics don't have rez, BMs don't have HF, Barbs don't have Flesh Ream, and Archers don't have arrows? -None of that stuff is needed either.
    Wow I had no idea HF, Res, Flesh Ream, and arrows are cashshop items and cost 80 mil b:shocked
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yobo_kuma - Sanctuary wrote: »
    bottom line is that hercs are optional and u can play fine whitout it.
    I completely agree. I think people who demand good gear are the ones complaining the game is too easy anyway. Should ring a bell for how the game was designed.

    For example, I never had a problem in FC with two venos friend of mine who don't have a hercs. I actually find it more funny when people demand a BM for FC.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    One thing that seems obvious to me about this post is that your not looking for the actual answer to "what sense is there in playing a veno."

    It seems to be, "QQ I don't have a herc lets all feel bad for me not being able to cs QQ"

    The simple fact is- people that truly want something and are willing to work for it have the tendancy to get it. People that like to QQ about how hard it is to get what they want have a tendancy to not get what they want.

    Is it fair for squads to require a herc of a veno (expsecially when so many people fail at their own class)? No, it really isn't. But the fact of the matter is, people do require it of veno's to have a herc nowadays, and there is nothing you can really do about it besides getting a herc.

    And your complaint that grinding and tt runs wont make you enough money doesnt float with me. Other classes have to spend a monthor more for good weps, armour, money for refining, etc. It's no different for a veno. A good pet (herc/nix) should take a month or more to get. And, as with the other classes, cashopping will of course speed the process up.

    The only difference is, if the rest of us want something expensive, we cant solo tt runs or grind so cost effectivley OR easily. So venos really have a big advantage when it comes to making money.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Wow I had no idea HF, Res, Flesh Ream, and arrows are cashshop items and cost 80 mil b:shocked

    There's nothing in this game that is Cash Shop only and ammo adds up. Any self made wealthy person knows the principle of Nickle and Diming. b:bye
    DaKillanato wrote:
    The simple fact is- people that truly want something and are willing to work for it have the tendancy to get it. People that like to QQ about how hard it is to get what they want have a tendancy to not get what they want.

    ^^ This. I'm not a Cash Shopper or a supporter of CS'ing yet today I placed 1st in Nien Event (of Venos). I suck at playing the market but I find my own ways of generating coin (not taking advantage of generous men either). There are many others that are much better than me at it. I say ignore the fails and those who want you to fail. A Herc is as important by Lv.90 as HF, Ammo, Res, Ream, etc. It's also considered cheap at that level.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    There's nothing in this game that is Cash Shop only
    Say what?

    How do you acquire, let's say, a charm? Either by cash shopping yourself, or getting it from someone else who cash shopped. Both are cash shopping, and the way a charm is generated is by someone charging zen. Fair to say charms are, at the moment, cash shop only. (Celestial Tiger event may change this, though)

    There is simply no way of generating cash shop exclusive items without someone charging zen. Getting it from other players is no magical distinction -- if someone gave me his charm does that mean the charm was not cash shopped? What if I give that person X amount of coins in return? Does that make the cash-shop status different?
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I already addressed this "exclusivity" issue. When I farmed TT3-1 on my server Evil Minion Horns sold for ~500k, it was really profitable since it's a real easy TT and many people want TT90. No double drops have been put in the meantime, but now a lot more people farm it, market is flooded, and they barely sell for ~300k anymore, mostly ~150-225k. Advices like this rarely work because it depends on server situation and exclusivity.

    Evil Minion Horn is from Djinscream, that's 3-1. 3-1 isn't good for money runs and horn never really sold for all that much. If you're farming 3-1 you're looking for GBA and shells.

    1-3 is still profitable... just time consuming. It's also harder than 2-2 or 3-1. The three best to farm are 2-2, 2-3 and 3-3. 2-2 for bars, dust and touch and 2-3 for arms and antennas.

    Even with mat prices the way they are, on a great run you'll make some good coin, on a bad run, you'll at least cover the cost. 3-3 is a lot like 3-1 except if you drop gold, you're doing a lot better... except the green mats in 3-3 are relatively worthless.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The idea that an herc is as necessary to a veno as res is to a cleric is completely ridiculous. Squad work revolves around the res ability of a cleric and is the reason all other classes in the game will sacrifice in order to keep the cleric alive. A good cleric will understand the principle of triage himself and make his own survival priority number one. An herc on the other hand is a mediocre tank at best, it cannot benefit from player buffs and cannot hold aggro on par with even venos going full out. It's one and only advantage is it saves repair bills and even that at the cost of precious time... Mistaking necessity with convenience is taking things out of proportion. Yes, the herc allows for AoE grinding but nowhere near on par of what a BM or a Barb can acomplish. Yes, the herc is a decent damage dealer but is outdone by even some non-CS pets.

    Pet Cleric to a glorified punching bag is far from being a veno's full PvE potential, and even fully acknowledging an herc's overwhelming superiority over other pets, to claim only the best and most expensive tool will suffice borders on the same ridiculous pretense that demanding of every player a +12'd weapon... Yes, it's a matter of proportion isn't it? Because an 80 mil pet is bare necessity? Like 5.0 Aps? What's the standard? Sage/Demon versions of every single skill for level 100 chars? A perfect 100/100 lp genie because if you're not a leet uberpro you're fail? Could you pros please SS your Warsoul weps so i know what not being a looser looks like?

    Every player gets to make their own decissions about what they choose to acomplish in this game and how they get it done. Everyone gets to choose wether they'll squad unherc'ed venos or not, but they don't have a say in what other players can acomplish. You can get to 100+ without an herc and you can also make valuable contributions to a squad on any run without one. An herc is no more a win button in PvE than a nix is in PvP. Sometimes the underdog does come on top...
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes, the herc is a decent damage dealer but is outdone by even some non-CS pets.

    What other pet is there that can do more damage than a herc w/reflect?
    An herc is no more a win button in PvE than a nix is in PvP.
    A herc isn't really important unless you want to solo HH. A nix is important if you want to PvP at end-game... even those don't really hurt much, it's the 3 second stun that makes it powerful, imo.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    What other pet is there that can do more damage than a herc w/reflect?

    Reflect, as you know, only works when the pet is tanking. Which means that unless the veno is soloing, the rest of the squad is left standing there holding their proverbial ... When a veno's pet is not tanking and the best dps output matters, a Dark Wanderer or a Scorp will make better choices.

    A herc isn't really important unless you want to solo HH. A nix is important if you want to PvP at end-game... even those don't really hurt much, it's the 3 second stun that makes it powerful, imo.

    Yes, the nix is by far the better choice but there are low budget alternatives like the sawfly and the skatefish. Fortunately the days of just sending the pet in and kiting are long gone, and a veno will have to rely on something other than just reaming with her pet on PvP. As for Pounce you can get that with a shaodu cub...

    You've said it yourself, an herc isn't really important in squads...
  • MindCrime - Harshlands
    MindCrime - Harshlands Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You guys are forgetting this game did NOT start out with hercs and nixes. I have mentioned this before in the veno section of these forums, but yeah I remember doing HH 1-1 and 1-2 with 2-3 venos healing a magmite before hercs were avail on PWI. IT WAS FUN, and taught us a lot about our class.

    Yes, having a herc makes life in game easier, but is being hercless undergeared? NO.

    There is a 101 veno on HL (Desiree), who has never had a herc on that server. I wish he would post here.

    His magmite, aptly named Gundam, has all the herc buffs on it and there isn't much he can't do in this game that a herc veno can.

    I went to lvl 90 without a herc and the ONLY reason I got one was due to the fact that I wasn't getting any FC invites and happened to have the money for it at the time which coincided with a battle pet pack sale.

    Hercs and nixes are just one more example of PW pushing us to end game as fast as possible. Why? My guess is so that we reroll and spend more. - Shrugs.

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