How to breed high lvl semi professionals:

Shandelzare - Sanctuary

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think the problem comes from genies. There is no skill involved with clicking a genie skill. No channel time, no cast time, and you can use while stunned, sealed, anytime. The effects are stupid too...invincibility, max speed, no cast/chan time stun, massive AOE damage, wtf is all that ****?

No, there's nothing wrong with genies (except the ******** amount of lag they cause in TW). Genies actually make the gameplay more interesting tbh.

dagoddominator

i don't get why so many people hate on the cash shop. i probably spend a bit more than the nominal amount on this game, but i don't mind. I have ZERO time for another game, console or not; and the devs and business needs cash to keep offering a free-to-play game. the problem i see is that, IMHO the business is focusing too much on salable content and not enough on bug fixes (CLERIC [>.<]), in-game events, re-offering older instances and the like.

they may be trying, jungle ruins will be available soon i think, nein beast(though there needs to be more breakdown in how awards are given to separate high lvl super-geared beasts from regular people) has been ok if not a bit buggy(which is also expected), and that stupid beast killer quest which i personally despise. My view is that many of the cash shop items should be grindable, as in requiring an assload of mobbing and gathering to get the equivalent fo what ppl pay for,or that there be grindable content that is not quite as great as what we pay for ( charms, fashion, pigments, WING WIDGETS, MOUNTS.)

i believe that the answer lies in the middle ground. the cash shop exists to generate money AND offer comfort for those who invest in the game. it should not be made so easy to power level ( i DO however think fast leveling should not be nerfed to get from 1-40, many people i know including myself have alts AND adapt to new classes well but we also have non-PWI lives) with cash shop items, but the other aspects of the cash shop are indeed bane and boon(if EVERYONE on a sever had to grind/farm mats, then they would never get a chance to respawn and bot/farmers would be the new "bad guys".)

genies are not the problem either, in fact it does take a bit of grinding to keep your genie powered up unless u have friends that can help you farm 3*'s to decomp. it's also another sink for exp and spirit so it kinda slows down leveling in some aspect.

if anything, get rid of gear you have to pay 10 grand in real money for that make people's eyes drop out they head, make high refines harder and less cash-oriented, DONWGRADE the HERC and NIX (even though i own a herc, i do think those pets are a tad OP'd.) another idea i had but am not too sure of, is to adjust the way gear drops. maybe if only bosses dropped gears, and not regular mobs, people would need to craft more, which would force more grinding overall. the crafting system while nice, seems only to see use when ppl want to lvl their skills for TT/mold crafting....

MiniST - Sanctuary

Having more skilled people all went to hell when we discovered that it was easier to level by just zipping through FBs for noobs. (This was far before BH, anniversary packs ect.) I used to run through noob towns shouting looking to help on FBs b:laugh This lead to the all molds goto tabber ****, then all 3 star items and mold. I think now, it's everything goto the tabber or st like that.

And to answer the cash shop thing above me, no one hates the cash shop. I love it, when the first spring packs came out, by buying and selling, I made millions. I hate some of the cash shop items such as the anniversary pack because I had to run through so many dungeons and put in so much effort just to see it be overcome by a simple click. Without the packs, there would probably be one person in the entire server that would have the back in time helm and boots. There would be exactly 1 person with the warsoul helm ect. And the dungeons such as TT and Lunar were harder back then. I believe that the entire game is based around the TW. Without TW, imo, this game would be pointless. Thus, with the introduction of the anniversary pack, it just said **** you to me. Since I'm never gonna charge any money ever, there is no way that I can compete.

btw, you can have a life and not use the cash shop or charge any zen. I can count the times I've grinded without a purpose on both of my hands. I've never zened, I started doing Delta when I was in the mid 90s. (was missing a wiz in my static squad ) I did do a lot of those A and B combine things (forgot what it was called). And I got to 100 before the anniversary pack and was the 5th person on the server to be 101 (1st veno). Only things I did was crazy stone, afk WQ, cube and quests. And ran TT for gear. Throughout that, I got a nix, herc, and tons of other ****. And I had a life, not as extensive as before PWI though, but still.

Yeah... QQ b:surrenderb:surrender

Strife_son - Sanctuary

Breeding high levels reminds me of monster rancher. I loved those games ;-;

Ignathas - Sanctuary

point is not here.. point is:
in US whats the average salary?
what is the average salary in China?
who has a dad with millions?
who is trying to pay for rent with his last money?
me for example idk i get around 500$ a month what is normal in my country, with unemployment 20% and 50%+ for those younger then 25 (im 23 year old) its even good i should say.. and spending 50$ wich is 10% of my salary is quite enough on the game, and its not worth it... id better buy some food/pay for rent/ go to caffe or smth instead.. but still all i could actually afford is like 50$ a month..
now some rich guy from Switzerland or Norway where the Minimum salary is 2000$ (?) a month can spend 4 times more on stuff then i can, and its normal. and what about guys like Bastey who kept telling me how insanely rich his dad was and that he can spend 2000$ a Month for this game? point is people might like the New stuff in general, but most just hate that it leads to too much difference in what people can and cant afford. some guy living in africa earning 50$ a month (no offence idk how its really, just an example) will never be able or like the cashshopping - therefore game is unequal in International perspective - well neither is life on the other hand - if i work alot and others do completely nothing and play games all day long - its unequal here too.. i will never get that good as others in terms of pixel world if i work a lot in real life and got no money in real life, and those who do nothing and are rich - will always be gods in pixel world if they find it amusing.. therefore - dont hate cashshoppers or nolifers, just deal with it b:thanks
p.s. its always way more fun in killing 'professionals' then nubs b:dirty i only kill those..
p.s.s. as some1 said without our beloved cashshoppers game developers wouldnt do their job

Quilue - Sanctuary

This game is fair enough in that it is rewarding to use your brains. Mindless cash shopping would mean someone would have to spend a LOT of money, while actually knowing how to use your wealth can get you very far in this game. This is why a lot of people have gear that is on par with some really heavy cash shoppers but haven't charged nearly as much.

Ignathas - Sanctuary

ya thats quite easy actually - make 20 different accounts - wait 10 - and catshop everything everywhere.. money will come fast, if you have the time to mess with it and have multiple computers/ good computer and programs for that kind of stuff ofc no need to cashshop...
or - check AH every 5 seconds for new stuff for half the price..
all comes back to - cash or time spent

Quilue - Sanctuary

What they really need is for BH to be a new instance with a max capacity of say, 80 people. It'll be like CoA where there's multiple rooms and passages.

There would be multiple instances for different level groups.

Once you're in you can't get out until you fail or succeed. The objective is to kill players in the instance that the npc will assign to you within a specific amount of time for exp and coin.

When a kill is committed, it should announce something like:

Quilue has pawned Ayano-chan's head for an extra 25k coins!

and when objectives are fulfilled for multiple kills in a row, it should announce sprees like in Unreal Tournament.

You do this as many times as you want, unlimited tries. The more people you kill that day, the more people will be assigned to hunt you and the more people you have to hunt at a time to get exp. If people are assigned to the same target, the npc will let them know so that they can work together.

b:chuckle

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

What they really need is for BH to be a new instance with a max capacity of say, 80 people. It'll be like CoA where there's multiple rooms and passages.

There would be multiple instances for different level groups.

Once you're in you can't get out until you fail or succeed. The objective is to kill players in the instance that the npc will assign to you within a specific amount of time for exp and coin.

When a kill is committed, it should announce something like:

Quilue has pawned Ayano-chan's head for an extra 25k coins!

and when objectives are fulfilled for multiple kills in a row, it should announce sprees like in Unreal Tournament.

You do this as many times as you want, unlimited tries. The more people you kill that day, the more people will be assigned to hunt you and the more people you have to hunt at a time to get exp. If people are assigned to the same target, the npc will let them know so that they can work together.

b:chuckle

said hamster doesnt even PK D= gtf back in your cage

Quilue - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

said hamster doesnt even PK D= gtf back in your cage

what does that have to do with anything? if i didnt like killing people i wouldn't go to tw either lol

Cocobelle - Sanctuary

Carebear Server b:cuteb:kissb:chuckle

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Cocobelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Carebear Server b:cuteb:kissb:chuckle

cocobear?b:chuckle

Cervantia - Sanctuary

Shandelzare - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hey... guys... uhh...

Hate to break it to you guys but... grinding doesn't make you pro.

True, but let's say it like this: If you spend hours and hours, several months with just grinding you will find your skills with your eyes closed. That makes it easier to also see other things like the mini map to get the overal situation. It happens extremely often that people just don't see what's happening around them and for example stand at a spot until a patrol gets them from behind. I assume it is very often either because they focus too much on using their skills or do something else while playing. Also it would be very unlikely you find someone who has not tried out their skills in different situations...
As it is now some people look at me amazed when I tell them about skills they forgot to buy for their class and what incredible advantages they could get for the squad if they bought them.

Quilue wrote:

It'll be like CoA where there's multiple rooms and passages.

You mean apart from the fact that CoA along with ToD and Tournament is a big fail for every none American player? Maybe if PWI Entertainment suddenly grew brains and would make an opening during the week (where normal people have to sleep at night) at two different times of the day... like morning and evening instead of evening only.


@Charms
You don't need them yes, but having a guardian charm can come very handy. On BH if the bunch of n00bs you are with scews up and there is massive add the charmed people are usually the only ones standing after the last enemy is killed. Or if the barb dies for whatever reason and the cleric forgets to IH your BM befor rezzing the kitten you'll be dam glad for having that charm...^^

NaitomeaDesu - Sanctuary

Cervantia - Sanctuary wrote: »

True, but let's say it like this: If you spend hours and hours, several months with just grinding you will find your skills with your eyes closed. That makes it easier to also see other things like the mini map to get the overal situation. It happens extremely often that people just don't see what's happening around them and for example stand at a spot until a patrol gets them from behind. I assume it is very often either because they focus too much on using their skills or do something else while playing. Also it would be very unlikely you find someone who has not tried out their skills in different situations...
As it is now some people look at me amazed when I tell them about skills they forgot to buy for their class and what incredible advantages they could get for the squad if they bought them.

I like this.

SarahC - Sanctuary

I'm in love with Cervantia. *cough* b:quietb:mischievous

Cocobelle - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

cocobear?b:chuckle

That's actually the name of my Shadou Cub, mommy. b:surrender

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Cocobelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

That's actually the name of my Shadou Cub, mommy. b:surrender

....................*adopts*

Cocobelle - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

....................*adopts*

Yay my Cocobear better get a new home. b:cute

Silest - Sanctuary

Heres how to breed high level semi professionals:

How about not being a high level obnoxious moron thinking everyone cares about your 7 lvl90s?

Cocobelle - Sanctuary

Silest - Sanctuary wrote: »

Heres how to breed high level semi professionals:

How about not being a high level obnoxious moron thinking everyone cares about your 7 lvl90s?

But...I don't even have a lv. 90
QQ

RaininFire - Sanctuary

Just wanted to agree with the OP

there is nothing more boring than following some high level around an instance, especially when more often than not it quickly becomes apparent that the said high level is helping you because they would have no clue how to operate their character in something designed for their level
(I'm not talking about the odd cleric etc. that gets coursed into joining out of squads desperation, I'm talking about the idiots that stand at HH shouting "lvl 7x LF BH39 squad")

Personally I would love to see the bounty hunter squads have level restrictions, to all those that are going to say you wont get certain classes that you need.... rubbish if we had no choice but to squad with our own level there would be a lot more people available

also agree with whoever said about the "7 lvl 90's" ....personally I don't care what your main is, all I want to know is that you can play the class that is in my squad, yes sometimes it comes up in conversation and that is fine but when your general attitude "I have a character that is higher than you so therefore I'm better" I know your gonna suck

to all those that just drone on about fast levelling creating noobs.....*hands a tissue* can appreciate it must suck watching others obtain levels so much quicker than you had to but that doesn't mean that they are not very good at their class, and just because you did grind for years doesn't mean you are.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

put the pro and the semi at the pokemon daycare and come back now you'll have to cary the egg around a while but in the end you get a lowbie you can raise with tender abuse into a 1/2 decent player

or just tell em to (fornicate under consent of the king) when they ask you to run bh for them

Lycanthar - Sanctuary

Step X: Enter the Lycanthar. b:victory

LeLelle - Sanctuary

To the OP.

As a cleric, I am always a happy person when a high level shows up. Truth is, it doesn't happen all that often. Not on Sanctuary anyway. Also, is there nothing left for one to learn by watching a higher level player? That is, after all, the point of this thread.