Same sex rights
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Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »inb4 GSnipes
sorry dude my **** bashing days are over it makes no sense...they wil still b here
but i do like lesbians, its wrong...but still hot*trys to control guy hormones*.
but the game is based off Chinese basis, so i don't think this will ever happen[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Tempest FTWb:bye0 -
Need I remind you that China is not particularly fond of us Americans and therefore could care less what we say about same sex relationships in A GAME?!
Here's an idea. Hit Search. Type same sex marriages. Be enlightened.0 -
God, you people are angry.
Roll a guy character, marry a girl. Or vise versa. It won't happen. Sorry hun.0 -
GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »but i do like lesbians, its wrong...but still hot*trys to control guy hormones*.
Hmm, that's definetely sig worthy.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain, I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."0 -
The **** & **** community can preach about being heard & tolerance all they want. The fact is, the ones that are going out of their way to preach this, smack of hypocrisy (not all **** & lesbians, just the preachers). This is a chinese game, and the developers are of the chinese culture. By demanding **** & **** rights, you are showing no respect or tolerance for their culture. As much as you or I may disagree with their cultural standpoint on this issue, you do have to tolerate it, or they dont have to tolerate you. Kind of a catch 22 but its the truth.
note: I am straight but still pro - **** & **** relationship, my above statements arent against that issue, but rather a statement on tolerance, as a WHOLE.0 -
I think i saw a "you people" and a "its wrong" somewhere around here...We are watching you...b:scorn
Edit: InB4LateLockb:scorn...We are one, We are many, We are watching you...b:scorn0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »The **** & **** community can preach about being heard & tolerance all they want. The fact is, the ones that are going out of their way to preach this, smack of hypocrisy (not all **** & lesbians, just the preachers). This is a chinese game, and the developers are of the chinese culture. By demanding **** & **** rights, you are showing no respect or tolerance for their culture. As much as you or I may disagree with their cultural standpoint on this issue, you do have to tolerate it, or they dont have to tolerate you. Kind of a catch 22 but its the truth.
note: I am straight but still pro - **** & **** relationship, my above statements arent against that issue, but rather a statement on tolerance, as a WHOLE.
The Black community can preach about being heard & tolerance all they want. The fact is, the ones that are going out of their way to preach this smack of hypocrisy (not all Black people, just the preachers). This is a White Man's game, and the developers are of Anglo-Saxon roots.
By demanding Black Rights, you are showing no respect or tolerance for their race. As much as you or I may disagree with their racist standpoint on this issue, you do have to tolerate it, or they dont have to tolerate you. Kind of a catch 22 but its the truth.
note: I am white but still pro - Black, my above statements arent against the issue, but rather a statement on tolerance, as a WHOLE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Axelire - Heavens Tear wrote: »The Black community can preach about being heard & tolerance all they want. The fact is, the ones that are going out of their way to preach this smack of hypocrisy (not all Black people, just the preachers). This is a White Man's game, and the developers are of Anglo-Saxon roots.
By demanding Black Rights, you are showing no respect or tolerance for their race. As much as you or I may disagree with their racist standpoint on this issue, you do have to tolerate it, or they dont have to tolerate you. Kind of a catch 22 but its the truth.
note: I am white but still pro - Black, my above statements arent against the issue, but rather a statement on tolerance, as a WHOLE.
I'm not sure but i think you were trying to liken my argument to the civil rights movement in the U.S.
Thats entirely different, in that it was people in our OWN culture trying to change our OWN culture.
Likewise i'm for the **** & **** community getting marriage right in the U.S.
My argument is about not having the right to try & change ANOTHER culture. Ever wonder why half the world hates the U.S., and specific cultures are trying to blow us all up? Its cause Americans come across as trying to push our culture and morals onto the whole world.0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm not sure but i think you were trying to liken my argument to the civil rights movement in the U.S.
Thats entirely different, in that it was people in our OWN culture trying to change our OWN culture.
Likewise i'm for the **** & **** community getting marriage right in the U.S.
My argument is about not having the right to try & change ANOTHER culture. Ever wonder why half the world hates the U.S., and specific cultures are trying to blow us all up? Its cause Americans come across as trying to push our culture and morals onto the whole world.
My post wasn't directed about how this game has dealt with same-sex marriages, but rather an attempt to show that the logic of your post, if applied to Black Civil Rights, would have today's people in an uproar.
LGBT supporters would argue that their lack of rights is a Civil Rights issue. If it wasn't for decades of activisms or what you term "preachers", can you imagine how much more intolerant people and the government would be today? People get killed over this ****.
Culture is not static. "Cultures" are not trying to blow the US up. The US is doing a lot MORE than trying to push their culture and morals onto the whole world.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
To each their own. Have fun doing what makes you happy, but stop ramming it in the face of everyone else.0
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Axelire - Heavens Tear wrote: »My post wasn't directed about how this game has dealt with same-sex marriages, but rather an attempt to show that the logic of your post, if applied to Black Civil Rights, would have today's people in an uproar.
LGBT supporters would argue that their lack of rights is a Civil Rights issue. If it wasn't for decades of activisms or what you term "preachers", can you imagine how much more intolerant people and the government would be today? People get killed over this ****.
Culture is not static. "Cultures" are not trying to blow the US up. The US is doing a lot MORE than trying to push their culture and morals onto the whole world.
Cultures however need to evolve on their own. Forcing changes on them from the outside only causes them to bite back. If China's point of view is to ever change, it wont be because we made them change. Noone outside of the U.S. forced the civil right issue of the blacks on us, it was an internal struggle, and the same for womens rights, and now **** & **** rights. Yes it is a civil rights issue.
Your arguments flaw isnt in the fact that its a civil rights issue. Its in the fact that in this case, its a civil rights issue of another culture. And that is where we have no right to intervene.0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »Cultures however need to evolve on their own. Forcing changes on them from the outside only causes them to bite back. If China's point of view is to ever change, it wont be because we made them change. Noone outside of the U.S. forced the civil right issue of the blacks on us, it was an internal struggle, and the same for womens rights, and now **** & **** rights. Yes it is a civil rights issue.
Your arguments flaw isnt in the fact that its a civil rights issue. Its in the fact that in this case, its a civil rights issue of another culture. And that is where we have no right to intervene.
Evolving on their own does not mean that this happens in a vacuum, especially not today, when China has opened its doors. It isn't a matter of intervening, it is impossible not to influence and be influenced, directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally.
There is no "if China's point of view is to ever change", it is already changing, one step at a time.
You cannot support a cause yet condemn those who speak up. How can you push for a cause when everyone keeps their mouth shut?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Axelire - Heavens Tear wrote: »Evolving on their own does not mean that this happens in a vacuum, especially not today, when China has opened its doors. It isn't a matter of intervening, it is impossible not to influence and be influenced, directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally.
There is no "if China's point of view is to ever change", it is already changing, one step at a time.
You cannot support a cause yet condemn those who speak up. How can you push for a cause when everyone keeps their mouth shut?
The problem is, you think that yours (and granted mine as well) oppinion on the subject is right. But what diety or supreme being gave you the all knowing power that assumes what you believe morally is what everyone should believe? Of course i think **** & lesbians should have these rights. But to assume that our morals should be spread across the world & everyone should believe them is what happened in the middle ages, with disastrous results. It had consequences when a country known as Germany believed this called World War II. It's having dire consequences in the middle east as we speak now.
Our morals & beliefs are just that, OURs. We have no right to push them on someone else.0 -
RainbowVidel - Sanctuary wrote: »I *was* going to say something but .....heck with it.
I'm getting so tired of repeating myself concerning topics like this one and why such things will never be implemented in the game. I'm not doing it any more. You just can't reason with stubborn hard-headed people who refuse to take "no" for an answer.
I'm done with this ****.
its descrimination! and I refuse to believe people who supose to be intelectuals believe there is any room for that in todays society0 -
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Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »The problem is, you think that yours (and granted mine as well) oppinion on the subject is right. But what diety or supreme being gave you the all knowing power that assumes what you believe morally is what everyone should believe? Of course i think **** & lesbians should have these rights. But to assume that our morals should be spread across the world & everyone should believe them is what happened in the middle ages, with disastrous results. It had consequences when a country known as Germany believed this called World War II. It's having dire consequences in the middle east as we speak now.
Our morals & beliefs are just that, OURs. We have no right to push them on someone else.
If you are even 60% opposed there's no changing your mind I guess you believe I am the one pushing beliefs but I believe it is the world because we put this image of a man and a woman so high in todays society when in some cultures it wasn't always the case.
I am not pushing stupid beliefs I am not even pushing I just want to be able to do what ever I want on a game with out descrimination telling me what I can and can't do with who ever I want in the game!
SUCK IT GM'S do something or our protests will continue!0 -
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SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »This.game.is.made.by.Chinese.Devs.and.China.doesn't.like.homosexual.people. (Against their culture apparently)
b:surrender
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You won't teach the game anything
Do you know how many threads are there about this issue?
NOTHING has been done to calm down or satisfy homosexual people.
maybe our protests get stronger maybe will ruin this games publicity MAYBE WE WONT BE IGNORED Any longer!
Support don't be hating0 -
discrimination...not really they NEVER said they hate ****, or that they dont want people of homo sexual status to not play
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*unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice*
how are you unfairly treated? i see no prejudice, they just incorporated THIER morals into a game THEY made....so how could they discriminate against your kind?
they never said they dont want **** or posted a section in registering for a person sexuality and ban or reject if they aren't straight. if u dont like the fact that **** marriages arent accepted go play another game
*OMG i am unfairly treated by not being able to marry some one of same sex*....lol[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Tempest FTWb:bye0 -
NightRage - Raging Tide wrote: »Lolwat?!
GMs don't care, enjoy your marriage-less embrace-less Perfect World.
I just want the same actions and animations with my partner as straight people enjoy on here obviously its an issue otherwise we wouldn't make so many fourms!0 -
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I just want the same actions and animations with my partner as straight people enjoy on here obviously its an issue otherwise we wouldn't make so many fourms!
Then one of you make a male character. Ta-da, you can enjoy the animations.
By the way, you haven't made a single forum yet.0 -
The GM's not caring doesn't mean F all to me their not gods I am a future custommer and I deserve the same rights as any other custommer lol b:thanks
don't think I wont keep theese fourms alive in perfect world0 -
I just want the same actions and animations with my partner as straight people enjoy on here obviously its an issue otherwise we wouldn't make so many fourms!
and oh the many that were made UP to NOW...NONE have been considered....wonder why?? cuz the GMS already said it wont happen[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Tempest FTWb:bye0 -
The GM's not caring doesn't mean F all to me their not gods I am a future custommer and I deserve the same rights as any other custommer lol b:thanks
don't think I wont keep theese fourms alive in perfect world
LAWL in THIS game they are the godsb:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Tempest FTWb:bye0 -
If you are even 60% opposed there's no changing your mind I guess you believe I am the one pushing beliefs but I believe it is the world because we put this image of a man and a woman so high in todays society when in some cultures it wasn't always the case.
I am not pushing stupid beliefs I am not even pushing I just want to be able to do what ever I want on a game with out descrimination telling me what I can and can't do with who ever I want in the game!
SUCK IT GM'S do something or our protests will continue!
Hey how about reading through my posts instead of grabbing the last one and sounding like an idiot. I'm pro-**** rights. But thats my oppinion & my culture.
Do you support the war in Middle East? I'm going to take a guess and say you don't, due to that being popular oppinion in AMerica, especially within the same liberal side of the arguement that pro-**** rights circulates on. Ignore this if you don't.
Why is it people dont support the war? because we don't think we should be forcing our coulture on another culture. but but... they treat women so horribly giving them no rights at all. Acording then to your demands about discrimination we should be in the Middle East & demanding they give women full rights!
Again thats hypocrisy. The standpoint of marching into another country & demanding they change their ways to match your oppinion is wrong. The Arrogance of it is mind-boggling!
This game is developed in China. Its goes along side their moral belief structure. Your argument would hold water if it was developed in America, but it is not. It's time to stop being so self-righteous and see that.0 -
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NightRage - Raging Tide wrote: »Then one of you make a male character. Ta-da, you can enjoy the animations.
By the way, you haven't made a single forum yet.
you don't get it let me make it clear we don't feel like we have to stay in the closet as a hetero sexual couple maybe some programmers, devs, GM's, etc or PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR OUR MONEY!
start obeying consumer conducts and stop ignoring and annoying the small **** demographic as some people are reffering to us as!0 -
you don't get it let me make it clear we don't feel like we have to stay in the closet as a hetero sexual couple maybe some programmers, devs, GM's, etc or PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR OUR MONEY!
start obeying consumer conducts and stop ignoring and annoying the small **** demographic as some people are reffering to us as!
Exactly. You are a small demographic. Compared to the amount of Chinese you'd **** off with what you want? Your $30 on a marriage pack isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to them.0 -
you don't get it let me make it clear we don't feel like we have to stay in the closet as a hetero sexual couple maybe some programmers, devs, GM's, etc or PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR OUR MONEY!
start obeying consumer conducts and stop ignoring and annoying the small **** demographic as some people are reffering to us as!
A question do u think a large percent of players are homo sexual?
so why should the GMs bow down to a lower percent of game players??
so then we should change all text to Spanish to cater to all the spanish ppl then??
this PROTEST wont get you anywhere[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Tempest FTWb:bye0
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