Multi-clienting

fhurr
fhurr Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2010 in General Discussion
I have searched for an answere but didnt find any, so ill ask and hopefully a GM can settle this.

In ESO and BoI it is allowed to be logged into 2 diff accounts on the same computer, AS LONG AS 1 of the accounts are in town, vending(or simular, but both acc's isnt allowed to gain exp at the same time)
Do the same rules apply to PW?
Can i have a 2nd account in town selling stuff while beeing out exping on my main one?
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    As far as I know, it has never been allowed in PWI to run 2 clients on 1 computer, no exceptions.
    You are allowed to play on a laptop and a pc at the same time on different accounts, just not 2 different accounts on 1 computer :)

    *edit - several laptops/computers lol. sounded like it's only allowed as a laptop/computer config.
    When I got the meaning of melee mixed up:
    'Maj.. Melee ffs.. means I'm punching you in the face 1 foot away!'
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Multiclienting = running more than 1 game client on one computer = against rules = bannable
    Multiboxing = running more than one computer with 1 client on each = ok = allowable

    b:bye
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Multiclienting = running more than 1 game client on one computer = against rules = bannable
    Multiboxing = running more than one computer with 1 client on each = ok = allowable

    b:bye

    The problem with this is what defines a separate box, and how are they attempting to detect it? IE: Multicore, dual cpu, networked, MAC address, OS, KVM, etc.
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Multiclienting = running more than 1 game client on one computer = against rules = bannable
    Multiboxing = running more than one computer with 1 client on each = ok = allowable

    b:bye

    this rule doesnt make sense D:
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=703262


    Wonders why again this is NOT sticky'ed..

    GM fail again.. sigh

    Why GM Fail... well lets face it this is coming back and back and back and back and back....

    If people bothered to do a search it would be less of a fail but I would HIGHLY recommend the GM's/MOD's of this game make a sticky of it.

    (Did I mentioned this before in one of those thread??? well yeah I did lolz)
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  • fhurr
    fhurr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I dont get it tough, heres 2 other games from PWI:

    Battle of Immortals: http://boi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=57441&highlight=DUAL+ACCOUNT

    Ether Saga Online: http://eso-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=233341&highlight=client

    They both legalize multi-clienting if 1 account stay put in town and only is used for vending, why is this game different?
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Those games are not PWI..

    Their rules do not apply to this game.


    That's how the cookie crumbles. Aka.. don't ask as if you read up on the threads about this very subject you would see the technical guys made that rule. GM's asked they relayed that rule.
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  • Lauxly - Archosaur
    Lauxly - Archosaur Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    who really cares? the point is everyone does it and nobody gets banned for it.
    so stop acting like a baby
  • fhurr
    fhurr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Derrailing already?
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  • fhurr
    fhurr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It would be awesome if the trolls of this forum could stay away from this thread, just so anyone in charge could set it straight.
    The trolling is just making it harder to find an actual answere
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Don't worry about that.

    This forum requires a flame repellent suite at times.
    Nothing new.
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    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • fhurr
    fhurr Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Don't worry about that.

    This forum requires a flame repellent suite at times.
    Nothing new.

    Oh, im not worried...flaming doesnt become me the slightest.
    Its just annoying to read trough several pages to find a GM-response, but only to find alot of oppinions(wich i dun care about)
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Advocate of the devil steps up:

    Making rules and enforcing them is difficult at best. Frankly I would love to see a stickey made of it but I would think the GM's/MOD's would not want to get into murky waters as this can get really messy.

    Especially as these rules can never be "really" enforced as law does not apply to all players from different countries who are welcome to play in this game.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    The problem with this is what defines a separate box, and how are they attempting to detect it? IE: Multicore, dual cpu, networked, MAC address, OS, KVM, etc.

    Multiboxing = two seperate boxes, not two logical devices, not dual cpu, not running two clients on one physical computer. Is that really too hard to understand?

    As for being able to detect it or not is not the scope of the rule... doing so is against the rules and is a bannable offense.
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Multiboxing = two seperate boxes, not two logical devices, not dual cpu, not running two clients on one physical computer. Is that really too hard to understand?

    As for being able to detect it or not is not the scope of the rule... doing so is against the rules and is a bannable offense.

    How about this 1:

    Mainboard with 2 physical CPU's (aka 2 sockets) and dual NIC's + VMware guests running with assign CPU's...

    It's getting messy already.
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  • Kokki - Harshlands
    Kokki - Harshlands Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    fhurr wrote: »
    I dont get it tough, heres 2 other games from PWI:

    Battle of Immortals: http://boi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=57441&highlight=DUAL+ACCOUNT

    Ether Saga Online: http://eso-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=233341&highlight=client

    They both legalize multi-clienting if 1 account stay put in town and only is used for vending, why is this game different?
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Those games are not PWI..

    Their rules do not apply to this game.


    That's how the cookie crumbles. Aka.. don't ask as if you read up on the threads about this very subject you would see the technical guys made that rule. GM's asked they relayed that rule.


    Both are games from PWI, don't know what planet you are living on Oo.

    Anways, yeah it's a bit dumb if you think about it. I have 2 laptops running my shop accounts, but my main computer could easily handle all three (quad core cpu ). As in windowed and accelerated mode they don't even spike my cpu of my laptop for 10%
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  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    PWI being this game

    PWI is part of Perfect World Entertainment Inc. which also hosts BoI etc.

    Correct me if I am wrong tho.
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Lauxly - Archosaur wrote: »
    who really cares? the point is everyone does it and nobody gets banned for it.
    so stop acting like a baby

    LOL >.> trust me, ppl do get banned and pretty hard too. so go ahead, be my guest :>
    I myself use a laptop for my shop or alt and my main pc for my main char. It's a nice solution, but really, running multiple clients on 1 computer is bannable.

    FYI this has been stated time and time again by GMs as well as players. b:bye
    When I got the meaning of melee mixed up:
    'Maj.. Melee ffs.. means I'm punching you in the face 1 foot away!'
    >.<
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Got me another one btw about silyness.

    get a comple of VMware ESXi boxes running vCenter (distrubited switch enables with FT and HT.)

    On these servers setup a Windows XP box with PWI-client available via VDI..

    Love to see an answer of the techguys then.

    Or Hyper-V running on Windows 2008 R2 Service Pack 1

    Bottomline still remains: Follow the rule. End of story.
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Promivius - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Got me another one btw about silyness.

    get a comple of VMware ESXi boxes running vCenter (distrubited switch enables with FT and HT.)

    On these servers setup a Windows XP box with PWI-client available via VDI..

    Love to see an answer of the techguys then.

    Or Hyper-V running on Windows 2008 R2 Service Pack 1


    LoL as much as you'd like to bend the rules: no is no and will stay no untill further notice from devs/gms :3 tadaaa aint that hard.
    When I got the meaning of melee mixed up:
    'Maj.. Melee ffs.. means I'm punching you in the face 1 foot away!'
    >.<
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Agree.

    Just giving examples where is gets murky.
    I edited my previous post to reflect that.
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    yeh I understand. some things get really murky xD you put some effort in it man b:chuckle
    When I got the meaning of melee mixed up:
    'Maj.. Melee ffs.. means I'm punching you in the face 1 foot away!'
    >.<
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    fhurr wrote: »
    Oh, im not worried...flaming doesnt become me the slightest.
    Its just annoying to read trough several pages to find a GM-response, but only to find alot of oppinions(wich i dun care about)

    Here

    Also Here

    I could find more but you should get the idea...
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  • Grannus - Harshlands
    Grannus - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Over and over and over. 2.gif Get a clue already.

    As has been stated a multitudinous number of times:

    While you may physically be able to do it, multi-clienting is not allowed on this game.

    Get over yourselves and follow the rules or break them at your own peril - period - end of discussion.
    (until the next time anyways 5.gif )
  • Nastassiya - Sanctuary
    Nastassiya - Sanctuary Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kokki - Harshlands wrote: »
    Both are games from PWI, don't know what planet you are living on Oo.

    If you look at the very bottom of the page you will see...

    Perfect World Entertainment Inc. is the company...
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    theres no real way they could tell whether someone was multiclienting or running multiple computers. something like this happened to a roomate of mine. he went to go buy cubi gold, and they said that he couldn't because the household limit had been reached. i buy cubi gold, so it was me on my computer for my account. but we're in the same house, so we have the same ip address.

    the only way i see that they could know the difference would be to **** into your computer for both clients, and check the systems of the computers to see if their the same or not. which i believe to be illegal, cause that is considered hacking.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Multiboxing = two seperate boxes, not two logical devices, not dual cpu, not running two clients on one physical computer. Is that really too hard to understand?

    As for being able to detect it or not is not the scope of the rule... doing so is against the rules and is a bannable offense.

    If you don't know anything about computers, why do you bother to respond?
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  • Majesta - Dreamweaver
    Majesta - Dreamweaver Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    If you don't know anything about computers, why do you bother to respond?

    Because he can 8)
    When I got the meaning of melee mixed up:
    'Maj.. Melee ffs.. means I'm punching you in the face 1 foot away!'
    >.<
  • harmony4sophia
    harmony4sophia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    theres no real way they could tell whether someone was multiclienting or running multiple computers. something like this happened to a roomate of mine. he went to go buy cubi gold, and they said that he couldn't because the household limit had been reached. i buy cubi gold, so it was me on my computer for my account. but we're in the same house, so we have the same ip address.

    the only way i see that they could know the difference would be to **** into your computer for both clients, and check the systems of the computers to see if their the same or not. which i believe to be illegal, cause that is considered hacking.


    Your so very wrong, I've never posted on these forums but your ignorance has caused me to break my vow of silence... You can easily from game server side see whose multi-client via your Mac ADDRESS which is a special code that identifies your computer accessing the game. No hacking needed you accept the agreement of rules of participation with the game when you Installed it, so they have a right to see whose accessing THEIR MATERIAL. b:bye
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    harmony4sophia wrote: »
    Your so very wrong, I've never posted on these forums but your ignorance has caused me to break my vow of silence... You can easily from game server side see whose multi-client via your Mac ADDRESS which is a special code that identifies your computer accessing the game. No hacking needed you accept the agreement of rules of participation with the game when you Installed it, so they have a right to see whose accessing THEIR MATERIAL. b:bye

    got proof to back up your statement?

    and the definition of ignorance is not knowing something. so yes, maybe my ignorance has caused it. but you need to show proof
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