Venos 100+ training flying pets on land mobs? WTH

Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
edited June 2010 in General Discussion
Since when are venos allowed to train their flying pets on land mobs?

Moreover, this is a level 100+ veno, with a high-level flying pet, killing all the rabbits near sanctuary (on the shore), using her flying pet. She just can't be bothered to train him in the air, and there's no way I can do my "First Contact quest", there's not a rabbit in sight for me to kill.

I tried to talk to her guild peeps, and everyone agrees that she can do what she wants. They told me to squad with her is all. I need mats from them and I'm perfectly capable of doing my own friggin' quests.

WTH??? is this game for high levelled venos only or what?

I know her behaviour is against the rules 'cause I had friends getting banned for same.

I have a screenie for anyone who wants it. Now I'm stuck with a full quest log, unable to do any quest just because madame has to train her pet???

With time, this game is getting more and more ridiculous.

b:angry
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  • Drayke// - Archosaur
    Drayke// - Archosaur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You know. There ARE other Huggy Hares around. Just look, seriously.
    For example, try just north of sanctuary.
  • Ewen - Harshlands
    Ewen - Harshlands Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Venos have always been able to use their flying pets on land mobs, just as the flying mobs can attack to you if you take their agro and drop from the air to the ground. It is allowed. Also there are a dozen rabbit spots near the shore north of Sanctuary, near Sanctuary and a bit south from Sanctuary. She can't be in control of all the spots.
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  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It is still against the ToS, period. And an utter lack of dignity, to train high level pets on lowbies' questing ground.

    And here's a *removed*

    b:angry
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Besides, at that level, for all I care she could be training it in Heaven or Hell, not on lowbies' questing grounds. And what you're saying about venos training their flying pets anywhere, that is an utter lie. In all the 19 months I have been here daily, I've never seen a veno bring herself to such low behaviour, against all of PWI gamers. This is shameful.
  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It is still against the ToS, period. And an utter lack of dignity, to train high level pets on lowbies' questing ground.

    And here's a *removed*
    b:angry

    If the pet where high level, I doubt the veno would have been training it. Pets level fast. Just go back later and stop being such a child. I know it pisses ya off, there are a million places those effing hares spawn. There's an island just north of Sanctuary actually. And a ton of places between Village of the Naught and Sanct.
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  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    She's been at it for a while and I bet she's still there. And I won't move to other grounds, I'm not interested in meeting other mobs at the moment while I'm doing this quest.

    It's my prerogative a lot more than it is hers. If players going against the ToS are tolerated by some, it doesn't mean I have to put up with it. I'll kick some **** first.
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Check the screenie and tell me the ground isn't clear of rabbits, with all those coins on the grounds. That was in a matter of seconds too.
  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    She's been at it for a while and I bet she's still there. And I won't move to other grounds, I'm not interested in meeting other mobs at the moment while I'm doing this quest.

    It's my prerogative a lot more than it is hers. If players going against the ToS are tolerated by some, it doesn't mean I have to put up with it. I'll kick some **** first.

    The place you took your SS, just head a bit toward Naught over the water. Its full of great mats and herbs. A ton of hares there to interrupt your digging.

    BTW, I'm sure after all your raging, she's staying there to see what you do next. lol
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It's only against ToS to attack ground mobs with air pets IF the mobs glitch (can't attack back). That's the ONLY time it's against ToS.

    If your pet is low leveled, then you have to train it on low leveled mobs. It's as simple as that. If it's too high for the mobs, it doesn't get the exp, so either she was just killing those for a certain reason, or she was training up her pet. Maybe the air mobs that we usually train air pets on was flooded with venos (wouldn't surprise me - there's usually a few venos there, and it gets crowded). Why should we stay away from all other mobs, just because someone decided to take offense at some percieved insult? Why didn't you just move, if it bothered you so much? We all have to share the mobs, whether lowbies, highbies, etc., like it or not.

    And sure, most people are quite capable of doing ther own quests, and even prefer to do it solo (I'm one of these people, myself), but if several people need the same mobs, it goes back to the sharing thing I mentioned. Either you work together, or you move on.

    By the way, Naming and Shaming is against the forum rules (lol), so it might be best if you took off the screenie.
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  • RainbowVidel - Sanctuary
    RainbowVidel - Sanctuary Posts: 1,316 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It is still against the ToS, period.

    Where in the ToS does it say "high level venomancers may not train flying pets against land monsters"? Oh wait... it doesn't! Besides, there are plenty of places to find huggy hares besides the shore.
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I know she is, and I don't give a flying hoot. I only know that what goes around comes around. If some players decide to be complete azholes with other players, they'll have to live with the consequences, after all, it's just a game.

    As if the rampant greed wasn't enough...

    On second thought, what got me in a bundle really was her arrogance when I spoke to her. She may be having her day but she knows darn well she's going against the rules. And I have a main too... see if she ever needs a cleric, hehe...
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rain, it is against the rules. There was a time when this game started, people got banned for doing that, same as they got banned for pulling a boss into a village.

    Otherwise, how do you think the rest of us survived???
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If you ever heard of venoes bullying KunKun to level their pets, you could easily feel that there is a serious problem lying around. I am not sure if that practice was discouraged or not though.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Don't those Huggy Hares breed like rabbits?
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=720972&highlight=land+mobs

    It is NOT bannable to attack land mobs with air pets UNLESS the mob cannot attack back.
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  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Don't those Huggy Hares breed like rabbits?

    I think hares get offended when you call them a rabbit. But point taken. Move, squad up, or log out and make an alt, Chic. Or, the one you're doing now: Continue to QQ while others just sit back and watch with a smirk on their faces.
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  • RainbowVidel - Sanctuary
    RainbowVidel - Sanctuary Posts: 1,316 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rain, it is against the rules.

    Only if the land mobs are glitched so they don't fight back. If that's the case here, then you should have said so in the first place and I'd be agreeing with you. But if they ARE fighting back, then no rules have been broken.

    Which is it? Were the land mobs fighting back or not?
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Sure, venos band together. What name do you see? There are 2 of them, you don't know which one and I haven't named anyone.

    They sure attack back but what you don't understand is that the veno is lev 100+ (her equipment is lev 99) so she sends her pet, then one-shots the rabbit.

    Ta-dam.

    I tell you if she thinks she's giving a show, I'd rather watch a cleric AoE'ing petalis or cadevils: THAT is spectacular. Not a cowardly lev 100+ veno attacking stupid little hares and making as if she was on Saturday Night Live for g'ness sake!
  • Ewen - Harshlands
    Ewen - Harshlands Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Don't those Huggy Hares breed like rabbits?

    They do. OP is just in somekind of rage mode, so she doesn't realise that moving to a different spot would not only be the best solution for the veno, but for herself too.

    I seriously don't think that attacking to land mobs with air pets is not allowed. Otherwise they would have to ban almost all venos.. I bet everybody has been lvling his/her air pet by doing this + I've been pked a dozen times (as a lowbie) by a flying nix catching me from the ground.
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  • Mechanism - Archosaur
    Mechanism - Archosaur Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Chic_Sigh, has it perhaps not occured to you, that maybe there is a chance, just maybe, that the veno is among the powerlevellers, and as you do, also has the quest for them? In order to avoid aggro some Venomancers fly and attack from the air, Huggy Hares however are a ranged attacker and as such cannot be glitched in such a manner as you are claiming to be against the ToS.

    Can we have a screenshot showing that she is in fact level 100+? Not that it is even substantial considering. But to rant as such because you were ignored?

    I too would probably ignore you if I were busy, the only people you actually Have to answer to in this game, are the GMs. (Or endure a swift relocation around the map until they have your attention.)

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    By the way, Naming and Shaming is against the forum rules (lol), so it might be best if you took off the screenie.

    +1 btw.
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  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Stilled, they can watch with a smirk on their face. Don't worry, that smirk is permanent, they are bored witless.
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    *sigh*
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  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Chic_Sigh, has it perhaps not occured to you, that maybe there is a chance, just maybe, that the veno is among the powerlevellers, and as you do, also has the quest for them? In order to avoid aggro some Venomancers fly and attack from the air, Huggy Hares however are a ranged attacker and as such cannot be glitched in such a manner as you are claiming to be against the ToS.

    She's not questing, she's training her pet.
    Can we have a screenshot showing that she is in fact level 100+? Not that it is even substantial considering. But to rant as such because you were ignored?

    I was not ignored. She did so reply to me, arrogantly. And in my case, squadding her was not an option.
    I too would probably ignore you if I were busy, the only people you actually Have to answer to in this game, are the GMs. (Or endure a swift relocation around the map until they have your attention.)
    .

    Sure, the GMs... what a joke.
  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Stilled, they can watch with a smirk on their face. Don't worry, that smirk is permanent, they are bored witless.

    BUAHAHAHAA!!! Nice. Training pets is boring. But since you've been on the forums, massively... erm... irked--has that veno moved? Have you? If not, than I believe you should panic for PWi has stopped revolving around you.
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  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    The only time I found GMs funny was when Ironman spilled his coffee on the servers. Otherwise, if you get a GMs attention for this massive naivety, I dont think you're going to be the one laughing.
    PWI: Where not only are you judged for what you say, but how you say it. Keep up the grammar. Respect.

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  • SolomonSmash - Heavens Tear
    SolomonSmash - Heavens Tear Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    In all the 19 months I have been here daily, I've never seen a veno bring herself to such low behaviour, against all of PWI gamers. This is shameful.

    What's amusing to me is that this person seems to be the one who was going about their own business peacefully, until you came along and pitched a rabid fit about it. Stirring up animosity and whining = shameful indeed.
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    So what I understand is that in this game, anything goes. Even KS'ing is legit now and trying to send a ticket is a joke. OK, fine.

    I see that the only thing that gets your undies in a bundle is when the gold price goes up, or when someone sells a little over price to your liking.

    Geez, from now on, am I going to change my game style and don't anyone of you complain.
  • Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear
    Chic_Sigh - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I can't believe what I'm reading from a level 101, you are a cowardly bunch, aren't you?
  • Mechanism - Archosaur
    Mechanism - Archosaur Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    First of all, how do you know she's training her pet? How then though do We know she's training her pet?


    And, if it's the arrogance of the reply which so has you flustered, complain about that, not another reason to vent your frustrations on the forum.


    As for the GMs, not really a joke, they have plenty of things they need to do on an hourly basis, nevermind a daily basis, they ensure that Perfect World is running as effectively as it is able given the conditions.


    If you want someone to blame for bugs? Blame the Developers, or the Server-Side Test Team. Ticketing? Blame the Support Staff. Each aspect of the company has its own sector of people dealing with it. The GMs of Perfect World provide a service, which so many debase. They do a decent enough, nay, a damn good, job.
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  • Stilled - Archosaur
    Stilled - Archosaur Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    So what I understand is that in this game, anything goes. Even KS'ing is legit now and trying to send a ticket is a joke. OK, fine.

    I see that the only thing that gets your undies in a bundle is when the gold price goes up, or when someone sells a little over price to your liking.

    Geez, from now on, am I going to change my game style and don't anyone of you complain.

    The young often do not do as they are told. But have to learn on their own. I'm glad our constant non-support of your complaints has caused you to move on. I look forward to seeing that 100+ veno with her pet QQing about how you tried to KS all her hares as she trained her lowbie pet. Shame shame, Chic, KSing her helpless baby skatefish.

    BTW, If I complain when you stop whining, I'll eat Mecha. ^^ erm... if only cause then I'm bored and look for something far more entertaining when you leave us to this drastically "SHAMEFUL" game that supports only 100+ venos and their baby pets.
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