The world boss robbery

Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
edited July 2010 in General Discussion
ok guys listen to me. maybe u know it already. now its time to make some changes I hope.
Some ppl are able to rob ur worldboss by using a genie skill called expell. That skills makes all players (except ppl who are in pk or duelling I guess) immobilized for a short time. Thats enough that clerics cant heal the tank, so that this one dies. Thats how my fac failed at a worldboss. Problem is, u never know that is happening, so u cant proof by making a vid that the one who uses such dirty tricks did it really. GM's, pls remove that skill from pwi.
thats so unfair, ppl get mentaly destroyed when they fail even if they did great efforts....
hoping that I get an answer soon, and other ppl who had same experience as me shall share it here with us by posting it here.
Sorry for my bad english, but I guess its understandable.
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  • GetPoked - Sanctuary
    GetPoked - Sanctuary Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    /pwnt





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  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    lol... it sucks rly
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    So non-PK people got stunned? Sounds weird.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've seen similar done at PQ by jealous players in addition to smear campaigns and demands.
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    yea guys that the truth... I m still shocked that smth like that is possible...
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You just gave me something very funny thing to test... b:pleased

    Yes I am joking :D
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  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    lol stay a fair guy man^^
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    depends which customer support person you get when ya send in ticket, repeated use of this can lead to 24 hour bans SS away check who is in area press T submit tickets, it blows, its an exploit it happens way too much
    also now it happens at nien how lame is that reduce someone elses contribution mess up their sparks that way
  • FateMakerr - Heavens Tear
    FateMakerr - Heavens Tear Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    thats so unfair, ppl get mentaly destroyed when they fail even if they did great efforts....

    Holy Eggrolly!b:shocked

    I've heard about this expel issue, however, I've yet to experience it myself. Hope it doesn't get outa hand>,>
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  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    yea I know that its lame, we should do smth against that. thx for posting here some valuable information
  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Try killing the people that use Expel. :D
  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    it is already, maybe this treat is a source to do it even worse, but som1 must it mention again, as in the other treat "Genie skill expell" nothing was done
  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    best would be like one of my friends proposed to use it only within the squad in which u are, so that u can it only use with squadmembers :)
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok guys listen to me. maybe u know it already. now its time to make some changes I hope.
    Some ppl are able to rob ur worldboss by using a genie skill called expell. That skills makes all players (except ppl who are in pk or duelling I guess) immobilized for a short time. Thats enough that clerics cant heal the tank, so that this one dies. Thats how my fac failed at a worldboss. Problem is, u never know that is happening, so u cant proof by making a vid that the one who uses such dirty tricks did it really. GM's, pls remove that skill from pwi.
    thats so unfair, ppl get mentaly destroyed when they fail even if they did great efforts....
    hoping that I get an answer soon, and other ppl who had same experience as me shall share it here with us by posting it here.
    Sorry for my bad english, but I guess its understandable.

    Does the world boss have your faction's name on it, or does it belong to you?

    Sorry, crashing or getting crashed at world bosses is part of the fun in this game.
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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Does the world boss have your faction's name on it, or does it belong to you?

    Sorry, crashing or getting crashed at world bosses is part of the fun in this game.

    +1

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  • Fcplopes - Heavens Tear
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    no theres not my name on it, but thats not fair. and if u get half of hp down, the boss will belong to u as u kill without the influence of other ppl. I mean if luring a boss into a city is forbidden, this must be forbidden too
  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Sorry, crashing or getting crashed at world bosses is part of the fun in this game.

    That's why you are on a PK server. Not everyone is, some just want to play for fun.

    If this overrides PK settings, then it's a bug. Period. If PK is disabled, you shouldn't have a working attack vs. other players.

    Not that I care about worldbosses --- these are another crappy PW "feature". However, from the description, I don't see how this is limited to worldbosses, as the attack is on players, not on the boss.
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  • Admante - Dreamweaver
    Admante - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's why you are on a PK server. Not everyone is, some just want to play for fun.

    If this overrides PK settings, then it's a bug. Period. If PK is disabled, you shouldn't have a working attack vs. other players.

    Not that I care about worldbosses --- these are another crappy PW "feature". However, from the description, I don't see how this is limited to worldbosses, as the attack is on players, not on the boss.

    The problem is that expel is considered a buff, at least to the game mechanics, since it comes with immunity to physical. The seal is just an unfortunate side effect.
  • FateMakerr - Heavens Tear
    FateMakerr - Heavens Tear Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's why you are on a PK server. Not everyone is, some just want to play for fun.

    If this overrides PK settings, then it's a bug. Period. If PK is disabled, you shouldn't have a working attack vs. other players.

    +1

    Was about to say the same thingb:bye
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited May 2010
    Always have a duel with a veno. If you get hit, they can just purge it away. b:laugh
  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Just go white name and have swords next to your name. Then, if they wanna Expel you, they have to be white named. Then you can kill them. :D
  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ppl get mentaly destroyed when they fail even if they did great efforts

    I'm sorry, I lol'd. But its a genie skill...idk..
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My comment wasn't about using expel to possibly grief. Just that world bosses aren't anyone's particular property and if someone crashes you, or you crash someone else, that's part of the game.
    Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's why you are on a PK server. Not everyone is, some just want to play for fun.

    Yeah, cause I don't play this game to have fun. lol >.>
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Michael_dark: Your sig pic just came in handy (the first and last part of it) :P
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You realize it's not the skill's problem but rather someone's intention to sabotage your world boss hunt right?

    Expel has lots of uses, both in PvP and in PvE, I wouldn't want them to get rid of it.
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  • Nosey - Lost City
    Nosey - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Fcplopes - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok guys listen to me. maybe u know it already. now its time to make some changes I hope.
    Some ppl are able to rob ur worldboss by using a genie skill called expell. That skills makes all players (except ppl who are in pk or duelling I guess) immobilized for a short time. Thats enough that clerics cant heal the tank, so that this one dies. Thats how my fac failed at a worldboss. Problem is, u never know that is happening, so u cant proof by making a vid that the one who uses such dirty tricks did it really. GM's, pls remove that skill from pwi.
    thats so unfair, ppl get mentaly destroyed when they fail even if they did great efforts....
    hoping that I get an answer soon, and other ppl who had same experience as me shall share it here with us by posting it here.
    Sorry for my bad english, but I guess its understandable.


    LOL mentally destroyed over loosing a WB.

    Why should other players on your server allow you guys to just grab the WB and kill it peacefully and get G9 and Chrono pages?

    If you want a WB you kinda have to deserve it, which means guarding spawns times and being prepared of any type if interruptions - on a pve server that would be people spamming expel or trying to re-set the boss or just out-damage your parties. Pretty easy to **** up someones WB on a pve server even without expel. On a pvp server than you just start killing each other and the stronger force eventually gets the boss lol.

    But if you want WB you have to put in some effort. Bring a second tank and more clerics that can take over if the main tank/healers gets sealed by expel. If you dont have enough people to do that than lure the WB away to another location and try to kill it fast before you get spotted.

    In this game you will never be able to kill anything that drops valuable stuff in peace.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Nosey - Lost City wrote: »
    If you want a WB you kinda have to deserve it, which means guarding spawns times and being prepared of any type if interruptions - on a pve server that would be people spamming expel or trying to re-set the boss or just out-damage your parties. Pretty easy to **** up someones WB on a pve server even without expel. On a pvp server than you just start killing each other and the stronger force eventually gets the boss lol.

    In this game you will never be able to kill anything that drops valuable stuff in peace.

    Well, we did do 15 world bosses in a little less than 2 hours a few days ago, but I completely agree. Most of the easier world bosses die right after they spawn, and keeping times and making sure you record it every time you kill it is very important.

    I can't imagine how easy they'd be on a PvE server, but it's fun doing a bunch of world bosses... and it's even more fun crashing an enemy's party... It just wouldn't be fun without the thrill of crashes or being crashed from time to time. Some of the best gaming I've ever had on PWI have stemmed from wb crashes.
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You realize it's not the skill's problem but rather someone's intention to sabotage your world boss hunt right?

    Expel has lots of uses, both in PvP and in PvE, I wouldn't want them to get rid of it.

    The best solution i can think of would be to limit it to party members only. Then the only problems like this would be similar to the dirtbags who PK their BH parties. Still could cause a problems but alot less and the people have to be much bigger a-holes.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Fully agree with changing expel. It is supposed to be used only for "friendly targets" but it is used most often to grief or during PK.

    I think expel should be self-cast only.
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  • nerdraging
    nerdraging Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    My comment wasn't about using expel to possibly grief. Just that world bosses aren't anyone's particular property and if someone crashes you, or you crash someone else, that's part of the game.



    Yeah, cause I don't play this game to have fun. lol >.>

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