Proof that some tideborn skills are a tad overpowered after all (I tried assassin)

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 30 assassin. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about assassins" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as an assassin so yeah, now that is over with...

Deep sting is practically odd, + its a far too high chance of sleep while it costing 50 chi. Its really easy for an assassin to kite like this, even better than archers O_O but costing half a spark.



Knife throw have far too much range, its longer than a ranged class while it also cancels channeling. While BMs have around half that range



Puncture wound have the DOT as strong as cleric's thunderball, but half the speed of thunderball



Too much bonus critical rate, for a LVL30 assassin

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary

Level 30?
srsly?

Okay, you convinced me!
Nerf SINS!

FateMakerr - Heavens Tear

this is...... a "pre-thread-thread"?

o,o?

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

He announce it first before doing it. b:chuckle

Brigid - Harshlands

OP's a failed troll who has no practical midgame experience, let alone endgame.

Telarith - Sanctuary

You should try reading his BM posts, we just try to laugh since he isn't high enough level to actually be taken seriously. Otherwise, would just be another "special" BM making the rest of us look bad.

Brigid - Harshlands

I've read a few of his posts, yeah. How come you haven't gone Light Armor yet? b:chuckle

Also, now that I actually went back and read his first post in this thread...

I kited as an assassin so yeah, now that is over with...

OMG KITING! It's so OP! Nerf now!

ACLucius - Archosaur

Yes, we are OP. We have skills which make you frozen indefinitely, allowing us to bow you from a distance. Also, we have a secret skill that increases our bow range to 50 meters. We are so OP. b:laugh

Joshcja - Sanctuary

pshhhh tis a well known fact that the TB PK us as sacrifices to kuthulu

when they awaken em and he comes to west arch in the great catshop purgeing rewarding the spoils to the faithfull then we will see OP

*goes to convert to the fish side*

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 30 assassin. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about assassins" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as an assassin so yeah, now that is over with...

So wait for some time, I will be back later b:bye

zmog!
this invisible proof has swayed me!
b:shocked
now must use mah hamstastic influence to nerf bat the tideborns.
b:surrender

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

pshhhh tis a well known fact that the TB PK us as sacrifices to Cthulu

when they awaken em and he comes to west arch in the great catshop purgeing rewarding the spoils to the faithfull then we will see OP

*goes to convert to the fish side*

b:scorn

Also: This thread made me lol.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:scorn

Also: This thread made me lol.

see they can spell/say his/her(eeew)/its name correctly without going mad b:shocked

SilverCleric - Lost City

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 30 assassin. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

A lvl 30 sin can't show any proof of anything since your sin doesn't have ALL THE SKILLS to proof anything, also there's the sage/demon skills that need to be tested out as well so this thread is useless.


P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about assassins" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as an assassin so yeah, now that is over with...

So wait for some time, I will be back later b:bye

This thread is quite pointless since the you don't have enough proof that some of the skills can be abuse since you do have all the skills. If you have at least all the skills for your sin this thread will be slightly better but still pointless... >.>

Darksylph - Heavens Tear

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

kuthulu

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

cthulu

Tulu, Clulu, Clooloo, Cthulu, C'thulhu, Cighulu, Cathulu, Kathulu, Kutulu, Kthulhu, Q'thulu, K'tulu, Kthulhut, Kulhu, Kutunluu, Cuitiliu, Thu Thu

Honestly it doesnt have only 1 proper spelling.

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Tulu, Clulu, Clooloo, Cthulu, C'thulhu, Cighulu, Cathulu, Kathulu, Kutulu, Kthulhu, Q'thulu, K'tulu, Kthulhut, Kulhu, Kutunluu, Cuitiliu, Thu Thu

Honestly it doesnt have only 1 proper spelling.

b:quiet
b:avoid

Islamey - Dreamweaver

OMG the Puncture Wound is sooo OP. I can just use it once and kite till it dies!
Tideborn are OP QQQQQQ

\Hysteria\ - Dreamweaver4

oh yeah sins are op cuz they can kite, considering like every class in the game has a way to kite if ur creative, that means every class in the game is op and needs to be nerfed, oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Islamey - Dreamweaver wrote: »

OMG the Puncture Wound is sooo OP. I can just use it once and kite till it dies!
Tideborn are OP QQQQQQ

Actually puncture wound is overpowered... other classes do base damage

\Hysteria\ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

oh yeah sins are op cuz they can kite, considering like every class in the game has a way to kite if ur creative, that means every class in the game is op and needs to be nerfed, oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

uhm... I mean some skills people, read properly please. I mean why are other skills there if those few overkill skills are there for assassin? I used the other skills than them and they were fine, but the problem is when I used the overpowered skills, its like all the other skills are obsolete. Second, I never kite as a barb O_O



and... Last, but the most overpowered tackling slash, is the immobilize + 50 chi bonus... Thats more than sage gets from sage first skills right? 30 chi total for stomp of the beast king compared to normal tackling slash learned early. 20 chi difference but tackling slash is 100% chance. I got 50 spark really easily


can't load more than 4 imgs ... b:sweat

Asheera - Raging Tide

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Actually puncture wound is overpowered...

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

puncture wound

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

overpowered

LMFAO

level some more and then talk about balance mmk?

\Hysteria\ - Dreamweaver4

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Actually puncture wound is overpowered... other classes do base damage



uhm... I mean some skills people, read properly please. I mean why are other skills there if those few overkill skills are there for assassin? I used the other skills than them and they were fine, but the problem is when I used the overpowered skills, its like all the other skills are obsolete. Second, I never kite as a barb O_O



and... Last, but the most overpowered tackling slash, is the immobilize + 50 chi bonus... Thats more than sage gets from sage first skills right? 30 chi total for stomp of the beast king compared to normal tackling slash learned early. 20 chi difference but tackling slash is 100% chance. I got 50 spark really easily


can't load more than 4 imgs ... b:sweat

ok??? and??? all classes have strong skills and ones u rarely if ever use, point is?

Daose - Harshlands

This is a troll right? Because out of all the things you mentioned, tackling slash is the only semi-OP move.

BTW Wolf Emblem doesn't increase crit rate bruv.

MagicHamsta - Lost City

inner harmony be way overpowahed.
it be 4x stronger then the sage level 89 chi skill.
b:surrender
and they don't even has to be sage to get it.
>_<

Rillien - Heavens Tear

I hate to break it to you, but everyone who plays an assassin can go ingame and get screenshots of these skills. The descriptions are readily available on ecatomb and in other various places.

"Proof" by posting skill descriptions is hardly proof at all. The case muse be made with comparisons, numbers, and tests.

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear

Proof that some cleric skills are super duper overpowered after all (I tried cleric)

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 4 cleric. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about clerics" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as a cleric so yeah, now that is over with...

Blessing of the Purehearted

Range 18.4meters
Mana 10
Channel 3.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Initiate
Bless the target to recover 35 HP plus 4%
of your base magic attack.

Ironheart Blessing

Range 18.4meters
Mana 27.0
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Initiate
Bless the target to recover 84 HP plus 3% of
your base magic attack over 15 seconds.

Wellspring Surge

Range 18.4meters
Mana 27
Channel 1.5 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Adept
Rapidly recovers target's HP, recovering 80
plus 2% of your base magic attack.

3 completely separate heal skills! Clerics can heal themselves so well, they can live forever against mobs! Blessing of the Purehearted heals for ALOT (seriously, can one-shot practically anyone's health). Ironheart Blessing is alright-ish, not quite as powerful as Pureheart. Wellspring Surge is basically a weaker, but much faster Blessing of the Purehearted.

Plume Shot

Range 18.4meters
Mana 5
Channel 1.5 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Initiate
Focus your psychic energy to form sharp quill arrows to attack the
enemy. Inflicts physical damage equal to your base magic attack plus
55% of weapon damage plus 37.7.

Clerics are the only arcane class to be able to be able to deal physical damage. Plume Shot one-shot everything from level 1-10. Oneshot. Also, it's a ranged attack, so that means that they are pretty much the only class with a spammable long-range physical attack.

Great Cyclone

Range 18.4meters
Mana 9
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 3.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Initiate
Summon an immense cyclone on the enemy, inflicting Metal damage equal to your
base magic attack plus 55% of weapon damage plus 55.0.
Has a 65% chance to reduce the enemy's movement speed by 40% for 5.3 seconds.

So wait, clerics can deal magic damage too? That's rly, rly unbalanced, in PK clerics can beat both arcanes and heavies. AND IT SLOWS. Not only can clerics heal themselves, but they can also kite!

etc, etc.
l2p, stop QQing about sins.

Pot_Head - Harshlands

<---here is a tissue Op.

sorry Op I was being mean.

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Too much bonus critical rate, for a LVL30 assassin

It doesn't increase critical rate. L2R.

\Hysteria\ - Dreamweaver5

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Proof that some cleric skills are super duper overpowered after all (I tried cleric)

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 4 cleric. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about clerics" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as a cleric so yeah, now that is over with...







3 completely separate heal skills! Clerics can heal themselves so well, they can live forever against mobs! Blessing of the Purehearted heals for ALOT (seriously, can one-shot practically anyone's health). Ironheart Blessing is alright-ish, not quite as powerful as Pureheart. Wellspring Surge is basically a weaker, but much faster Blessing of the Purehearted.



Clerics are the only arcane class to be able to be able to deal physical damage. Plume Shot one-shot everything from level 1-10. Oneshot. Also, it's a ranged attack, so that means that they are pretty much the only class with a spammable long-range physical attack.



So wait, clerics can deal magic damage too? That's rly, rly unbalanced, in PK clerics can beat both arcanes and heavies. AND IT SLOWS. Not only can clerics heal themselves, but they can also kite!

etc, etc.
l2p, stop QQing about sins.

LMFAO b:victory

Rillien - Heavens Tear

^He's serious guys. Blessing of the Purehearted oneshot my health the other day. So OP.

Korg - Lost City

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Puncture wound have the DOT as strong as cleric's thunderball,

OH NOEZ!!! b:shocked
b:laugh

Legend - Raging Tide

THIS IS 100% LEGIT.
Anyways, lrn2dealwithfishppljustasulearnedtodealwithbroken
petskills b:cute

ACLucius - Archosaur

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Seems that there are some skills that are a tad overboard... Right now I am not very active, I will prove with screen shots later on, proof from using a level 30 assassin. I really researched the beginner skills for the classes.

P.S: Before you go "l2p" or "stop QQing about assassins" or any kiddish nerd junk, I am not talking about from PVP perspective, I am talking about the skills which can be abused. I kited as an assassin so yeah, now that is over with...

Deep sting is practically odd, + its a far too high chance of sleep while it costing 50 chi. Its really easy for an assassin to kite like this, even better than archers O_O but costing half a spark.


Guess what, Deep Sting also cancels channeling, and the sleep effect isn't canceled by Puncture Wound's bleed either. Also, it is only 5 seconds, but with a 15 second cooldown. You think an Assassin can kite like this? No, I'll tell you our "sinlock." (Starting at 299 chi) Shadow Teleport-Wolf Emblem-Headhunt-Inner Harmony-Puncture Wound-Deep Sting-Tackling Slash-Rising Dragon-Headhunt. After this, usually I find arcanes are dead by the time Deep Sting wears off, and they don't even get to attack. Archers, they are dead at the end. Now, add some more Tackling Slash in there and kite using bow/Knife Throw and you can kill Blademasters/Barbs easily.

But guess what, Blademasters can also stunlock, and Psychics can make you kill yourself with Soulburn. Wizards can pretty much 2 shot you. Clerics can keep themselves alive nearly indefinitely. Venomancers can double team you and kite you with their pets. Archers can freeze and slow you long enough to kill you before you reach them. Barbs just refuse to die.


Knife throw have far too much range, its longer than a ranged class while it also cancels channeling. While BMs have around half that range


And it only gets "worse." At level 10, its 35 meters in range and 70% chance to cancel. But there is a 15 second cooldown, so while you only have a chance to cancel one spell, they send another and kill you.

Puncture wound have the DOT as strong as cleric's thunderball, but half the speed of thunderball


Psychic's have far more powerful DoT's. Remember, this also has a cap on how strong it can get. If I remember right, the arcane DoT's are based partially on base damage or weapon damage, which continues to grow even after the skills cap at level 10 or 11.


Too much bonus critical rate, for a LVL30 assassin


You mean Powerdash, which increases critical rate. Combined with this, I've gotten 8-10 crits in a row, and powerful ones. You can one shot an arcane with Headhunt and this if you get a critical hit. But remember, they probably can two shot you without a crit.

The point of all of this? You have failed. Play the game for quite a while longer, you will see that the class isn't OP, you just don't know how to fight it.