The ONLY pets a VENO NEEDS.

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

papabear52 wrote: »

Yes this is all good, but what about Veno's that can't afford herc's and nic's. which pets are the best?

Did you read my first post?

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

GrapeDrink - Harshlands wrote: »

Is the Dark Wanderer now the best DD pet? I see people using that

I've got a lvl 50 Scorpion from wayy before, would it be worth it to switch?

DD pets are really only useful in squads against [?] mobs. ---edits out my comment LOL----

tweakz

SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »

DD pets are really only useful in squads. but really... I wouldn't say they're worth it. I'd rather have my pet stay alive then having to worry about it DDing. The best DD for me is to have a tanking pet that is better at staying alive while i amp / ironwood / give sparks / do dmg. Then I don't have to worry about healing it that often.

We're given an major advantage on [?] mobs and bosses because of reduced damage on all but pets. We also pay a lot of coin for a little difference in weapon dmg when it only counts for a small portion of our actual atk. We can make a huge difference in how long it takes a squad to get through something partly by capitalizing on this.

Some numbers to consider (Lvl 100):

Dark Wanderer: Atk-3342 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2674 w/claw-3476.72
Vericose Scorpion: Atk-4008 Atk/s-.6 DPS-2404.8 w/claw-3126.24
Baby Hercules: Atk-3210 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2568 w/claw-3338.4

Now consider that putting Claw on a Herc wouldn't be wise because it's more of a tank pet than a DD pet. A DW or Scorpion with claw is going to way out DD a Hercules w/o. A Scorpion doesn't tend to be a great grind pet, but a Dark Wanderer can be great on melee mobs. The differences in DD on these pets is going to be amplified by Amp, Ironwood, Extreme Poison, etc.

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

tweakz wrote: »

We're given an major advantage on [?] mobs and bosses because of reduced damage on all but pets. We also pay a lot of coin for a little difference in weapon dmg when it only counts for a small portion of our actual atk. We can make a huge difference in how long it takes a squad to get through something partly by capitalizing on this.

Some numbers to consider (Lvl 100):

Dark Wanderer: Atk-3342 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2674 w/claw-3476.72
Vericose Scorpion: Atk-4008 Atk/s-.6 DPS-2404.8 w/claw-3126.24
Baby Hercules: Atk-3210 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2568 w/claw-3338.4

Now consider that putting Claw on a Herc wouldn't be wise because it's more of a tank pet than a DD pet. A DW or Scorpion with claw is going to way out DD a Hercules w/o. A Scorpion doesn't tend to be a great grind pet, but a Dark Wanderer can be great on melee mobs. The differences in DD on these pets is going to be amplified by Amp, Ironwood, Extreme Poison, etc.

Ahh nice. I didn't realize it had that much dps. Wouldn't it steal aggro easily though? So is the dark wanderer the highest dps pet now?

kenlee

as melee dps yea but i think scorpion with skills will do more than dark with skills because of the higher physical atk while dark has better atk speed and less p.atk

tweakz

kenlee wrote: »

as melee dps yea but i think scorpion with skills will do more than dark with skills because of the higher physical atk while dark has better atk speed and less p.atk

Right: The Dark Wanderer is more ideal for times you don't want it to take aggro, but also more suitable for tanking Stygean (because of pdef). The skills take the same amount of time to channel/cast regardless of pet. Dps could actually be hindered by skills on a faster hitting pet so that will make a difference as well. My Scorpion can tank most of the bosses in FF. Haven't tried DW there.

/ gellus - Heavens Tear12

Your playstyle could be different than everyone else's.

I had a v.magmite until level 64 (Is when I got my herc yeh).
I had a windwalking piggy until 75. (Nix then)

Luring, I like mah cactopod (Lovingly named CactaPWN b:laugh ). Though sometimes I'll just lure with herc.

-shrug-

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

I love my wolfb:victory

I'm planning endgame skills as: flesh ream / bloodhunger / pounce / claw

btw does anyone have bloodhunger? is it really better than bloodthirst?

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

The only downside to some of these pets like sawfly is that you have to upgrade it skills mostly bash.I got bug as well but not sawfly as lvl 32 with a lvl 2 or 3 bash.I wouldn't say a sawfly is the best even skatefish or what it is called.

Aliella - Harshlands

okay first off FAIL THREAD!
you cant tell people that those pets are the ONLY ones you should use, personally i hate the **** huge magmites/walkers i cant see the bosses when i use them and the shadou is so much smaller and is as much affective as both of those. personally i use my piggy as my air pet because it suits ME the best and its cute.....but thats beside the point, i dont like have a bug following me -.-" for luring i use my kowlin because its fast,has pretty good stats and my friends sometimes complain about veno luring being slow. you shouldnt post things like this its like you posted this as flame bait. b:surrender

b:bye okay im done

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

Aliella - Harshlands wrote: »

okay first off FAIL THREAD!
you cant tell people that those pets are the ONLY ones you should use, personally i hate the **** huge magmites/walkers i cant see the bosses when i use them and the shadou is so much smaller and is as much affective as both of those. personally i use my piggy as my air pet because it suits ME the best and its cute.....but thats beside the point, i dont like have a bug following me -.-" for luring i use my kowlin because its fast,has pretty good stats and my friends sometimes complain about veno luring being slow. you shouldnt post things like this its like you posted this as flame bait. b:surrender

b:bye okay im done

I'm not telling anyone anything. I've giving the best pets for the job. If they're ugly that's your problem not mine.

XeLea - Lost City

BattleFairy - Lost City wrote: »

lvl 40

end.

RAWR b:angry


END

rinuruc

with skills, the scorp is better than the wanderer,...

longerradiskull

but u know Aleille>.> Not all venos r so rich to buy kowiln and its hard to find him and tame, so i think Marksman is the bestest choice. Well u can tame firefox on lvl 85 as well.

BTW sorry for my english.

XxTerraxX - Raging Tide

I will get a herc and phoenix ONE DAY, but until I do it's

Magmite
Foxwing
Turtle

for me. I don't bother with anything else. btw my air pet is a decent lure pet since I added new abilities to it.

Havilah - Sanctuary

XxTerraxX - Raging Tide wrote: »

I will get a herc and phoenix ONE DAY, but until I do it's

Magmite
Foxwing
Turtle

for me. I don't bother with anything else. btw my air pet is a decent lure pet since I added new abilities to it.

I rarely have to lure thing on the world map, maybe some quest mini-boss like that lv69 tresure hunt quest. Otherwise...tell me that new abilities you added to your foxwing to be able to be used in dungeon? b:chuckle

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

note: this thread should be entitled "The best pets in terms of stats" b:thanks

axt57

I have only two pets
Nix and herc
They do everything I want just fine
I have no regrets
Time and money are best spent elsewhere

SupaRoyalty - Lost City

axt57 wrote: »

I have only two pets
Nix and herc
They do everything I want just fine
I have no regrets
Time and money are best spent elsewhere

hence my post above yours lol.

Aliella - Harshlands

b:surrender im not rich either i camped the kowlin and tamed it, i never buy my pets unless im trying to get the herc or nix. but all my pets were tamed by myself no money spent on them. but wasted my time...........

Aniella - Harshlands

Well..you don't need a good pet for be pro player, just tame a shiit and use it LOL nobody care what fooking pet ya have.

all pets i sued:

1-15 that little blue wolf shiit.
15-19 mink O_O
19-42 brown wolf from fb19.
42-59 Kitty - Plumedrop. ^.^ i still like kittys they are so sweeet
60-86+ <_< my Kowlin still luv it. use him alot in tts..do alot dg ~~ since pets do 100% dg on tt bosses, players only do 25%
80+ Now i use armored bear,Sawfly - he got lvl 5 bleed/bash/pince/slow ~ will get him claw!
I saving up for herc O_O only got 1k sof after sold tt90 boots xD

i don't lvl fast bc spend most time in tt2-2 ,tt3-1 ,tt3-2.

blabla-.- i just use that i like and don't care if ppl don't like them..BUT I DO!

jokerpt

tweakz wrote: »

We're given an major advantage on [?] mobs and bosses because of reduced damage on all but pets. We also pay a lot of coin for a little difference in weapon dmg when it only counts for a small portion of our actual atk. We can make a huge difference in how long it takes a squad to get through something partly by capitalizing on this.

Some numbers to consider (Lvl 100):

Dark Wanderer: Atk-3342 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2674 w/claw-3476.72
Vericose Scorpion: Atk-4008 Atk/s-.6 DPS-2404.8 w/claw-3126.24
Baby Hercules: Atk-3210 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2568 w/claw-3338.4

Now consider that putting Claw on a Herc wouldn't be wise because it's more of a tank pet than a DD pet. A DW or Scorpion with claw is going to way out DD a Hercules w/o. A Scorpion doesn't tend to be a great grind pet, but a Dark Wanderer can be great on melee mobs. The differences in DD on these pets is going to be amplified by Amp, Ironwood, Extreme Poison, etc.

what about the seamonster? how much DPS does it have?

Silest - Sanctuary

Necro much, but I just read a post that made my eyes bleed and fall out and I'm not talking about the post above me.

Stxchup - Harshlands

So, what u guys r saying is that the Dark wonderer doesnt take much agro? And here i am to use it to kill mobs, because im tired of taking agro from my GW... hes lvl 58, and i still take agro... it anoyed me... But im saving up for a Herc!!!!b:laughb:laugh

tweakz

Unintentionally stealing aggro from pet is entirely the veno's fault: not the pet's. -Take that from a pure mag 101 veno with a +10 Lv. 99 weapon normally using -48%ch. If you can't learn some simple stuff about aggro playing a Veno: you're likely to flunk as another DD as well.

Consider mobs pdef to mdef. Melee or no when comes to reflect? Wood or Earth? Kill before reaches you? Using applied pet skills even if they do no direct dmg?

Stxchup - Harshlands

tweakz wrote: »

If you can't learn some simple stuff about aggro playing a Veno: you're likely to flunk as another DD as well. ?

Oh... I get agro even when i dont att.... they just ignore my pet, and come after me..... Then tell me.. how do u play ur Veno?

Miseree - Archosaur

SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »

Seems like people are still confused....


Land: Before you get a herc:
- Glacial walker (666 170) ~ Level 19

Air: Before you get a nix:
- Petite Sawfly (382 331) ~Level 8

Water: Just use any water pet near your level till you get to level 80. Than get the Celestial Plumpfish (627 586).

For luring bosses:
- Eldergoth Marksman (422 755) ~ Level 41

For DPS:
- Dark Wanderer (691 266) ~ Level 19

*Until you get a herc it will be very hard to solo any bosses unless you are fighting a high magic attack boss and have a pet with high magic defense (froggy/antelope pup)*

Windwalking piggy is quite a good air tank and for lure pet can use kowlin oso

Aniella - Harshlands

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL THIS TREAD IS OLD :OO..but anyway xD LET PPL USE THOSE PETS THEY WHAT..i

Brael - Dreamweaver

No pets are needed to play a veno. To actually excel however there's a decent sized list of pets you do need, and it varies a bit by level.

Dark Wanderer: Atk-3342 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2674 w/claw-3476.72
Vericose Scorpion: Atk-4008 Atk/s-.6 DPS-2404.8 w/claw-3126.24
Baby Hercules: Atk-3210 Atk/s-.8 DPS-2568 w/claw-3338.4

Is the wanderer a 7 on the growth chart? I thought scorpions ended up higher because they were both 6's, but if those numbers are right I guess it is a 7. I guess that's what I get for being out of it for awhile, I'll have to update my sheet.

Anyways, if you take bashes into account:

		Claw+0	Claw+1	Claw+2	Claw+3
Wanderer	3475.68	3841.54	4207.4	4573.26
Scorpion	3126.24	3729.55	4332.86	4936.17
Herc		3338.4	3689.81	4041.22	4392.63

If you use two skills the scorpion takes the lead, with 3 skills it's a 10% lead. Of course, more skills means more aggro so if that's actually better or not would be situational. The reason for this is the .6 attack/sec benefits a lot more from bash.

Wanderer 365.86
Scorpion 603.31
Hercules 351.41

Is the amount each pet gains per bash.

_Surreal_ - Heavens Tear

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No pets are needed to play a veno. To actually excel however there's a decent sized list of pets you do need, and it varies a bit by level.



Is the wanderer a 7 on the growth chart? I thought scorpions ended up higher because they were both 6's, but if those numbers are right I guess it is a 7. I guess that's what I get for being out of it for awhile, I'll have to update my sheet.

Anyways, if you take bashes into account:

		Claw+0	Claw+1	Claw+2	Claw+3
Wanderer	3475.68	3841.54	4207.4	4573.26
Scorpion	3126.24	3729.55	4332.86	4936.17
Herc		3338.4	3689.81	4041.22	4392.63

If you use two skills the scorpion takes the lead, with 3 skills it's a 10% lead. Of course, more skills means more aggro so if that's actually better or not would be situational. The reason for this is the .6 attack/sec benefits a lot more from bash.

Wanderer 365.86
Scorpion 603.31
Hercules 351.41

Is the amount each pet gains per bash.

Brael is back :O