What makes wizards so strong?

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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    ....................................

    hmm ... really, dude, you have bigger issues than demon vs sage.
    I rarely seen someone post with so much hate and disregard to everything everyone else say on any kind of forum. To be passionate for something is one thing, to display obvious signs of behavior disorders is another.
    Really, go visit a specialist, I'm sure there is some kind of medication that would help to your condition.
    ____________
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    George Carlin

    ~I listen to hardcore FIGHT songs when I visit the forum, just to get into the proper mood~

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I don't believe the specialist would even be qualified to give him the help he needs.
    The doctor will see you now.
  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    ya'll butthurt cuz u know hell > heaven, you just dot want to admit that b:chuckle
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Once again, this is PWI, NOT, and I repeat NOT PW MS, PWMYEN, or any other version.

    Besides, isn't PWMS that european server I hear so much about (as in, it sucks)

    dear friend, maybe u dont noticed, DON'T WAS any "like", "than" or other words, what made that comparasion between another server, and i bet i can notice something, or not allowed?

    with that i meant its server depened where ahve more ppl in pve or in pvp and sometimes its funny difference.
  • xxxbigboss115xxx
    xxxbigboss115xxx Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    ya'll butthurt cuz u know hell > heaven, you just dot want to admit that b:chuckle

    nuff said
    10 chars
  • Xegeth - Dreamweaver
    Xegeth - Dreamweaver Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    ya'll butthurt cuz u know hell > heaven, you just dot want to admit that b:chuckle

    Awesome logic.

    "I am right." "You are wrong." "You just say that because you know I am right." b:surrender

    Else I second Ursa...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ok ppl i noticed one thing xD and i think its funny

    almost all ppl from a PvE server say Sage is better, and most from PvP server say demon is better.

    so i got chars on both servers, and for all saying sage is better or anything

    Damn u cant compare HT's PK mode to PvP servers all time PvP,
    seriously in pk mode u can choose or opponent in PvE server, while u can't on PvP,

    i would say if u like to go pk on any server listen to ppl from PvP servers,
    and if u like PvE then listen to ppl from PvE servers,

    btw if u want to bring the fact that in TW its the same, no it isnt,
    because PvE TW guilds cant even touch a lower PvP guild on a PvP server.

    People from PvP server got loads more of experience when it comes to pk, they think in a different way man.and experience is all u need for PvPing.

    now stop telling any **** of somethings being better, give the guy who asked hints how to play demon or sage wiz.

    For me i go demon because:
    i dont like a DD based on having sparks, i like to do quick and high damage (thats what a DD is supposed to do) and i can do that on demon.
  • brownflamer
    brownflamer Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    Hi haiz
    Guys this is haiz, sage mage and a reason why i chose hell path. He fail.

    Sage mages.... Stop fapping to sage dragon. It's only like 25% for crit overall... 50% chance to proc and increase crit chance by nonfactor number, sounds useless. And lol at chi skill - 2 times hell frostblade. Face it guys, heaven skills are useless.
    While hell... Sandstorm - spammable ulti, hell **** rock, range that allows you to hit target in 1k city while standing in archosaur, hell barrier, every single hell skill is great, even tempest, i can interrupt archers zhen with it! Amazing skill. 3 spark anti stun with poison and undine is a ****, -chan boost - only ****** will try to tank 3 sparked hell mage, heaven spark has no -chan so it suck. If you want go heaven, but hell is the way to go. Look at other classes , hell archers, warriors, barbs, venos - pro go pvp, while heaven suck. Same with wizards.
    And you carebears from non pvp servers - stfu, noone cares about you. Playing on hell wiz is pretty simple. You don't have to worry about archers cause you have barrier, you don't have to worry when you don't have chi, just sandstorm target and watch it dying. If you're being ganked 3 spark and go afk cause everyone will run anyway. There's no way to lose 1 v 1 as hell wizard, you just have too many badass skills that cause so much badass things to target.

    Anyway, wizards suck, roll a sin.

    Is it true that everyone runs away when you 3spark as a demon wizzie? b:dirty
    PS......I'm half-joking b:mischievous
  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    brownflamer wrote: »
    Is it true that everyone runs away when you 3spark as a demon wizzie? b:dirty

    lol hell no (pun intended).

    they just sleep/stun/seal and ignore you.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ok ppl i noticed one thing xD and i think its funny

    almost all ppl from a PvE server say Sage is better, and most from PvP server say demon is better.

    so i got chars on both servers, and for all saying sage is better or anything

    Damn u cant compare HT's PK mode to PvP servers all time PvP,
    seriously in pk mode u can choose or opponent in PvE server, while u can't on PvP,

    i would say if u like to go pk on any server listen to ppl from PvP servers,
    and if u like PvE then listen to ppl from PvE servers,

    btw if u want to bring the fact that in TW its the same, no it isnt,
    because PvE TW guilds cant even touch a lower PvP guild on a PvP server.

    People from PvP server got loads more of experience when it comes to pk, they think in a different way man.and experience is all u need for PvPing.

    now stop telling any **** of somethings being better, give the guy who asked hints how to play demon or sage wiz.

    For me i go demon because:
    i dont like a DD based on having sparks, i like to do quick and high damage (thats what a DD is supposed to do) and i can do that on demon.
    Majority of PvP server wizzies are sage while PvE server wizzies are demon. Dreamweaver has like 30 or so sage wizards against hundreds, maybe thousands of demon wizards.
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol hell no (pun intended).

    they just sleep/stun/seal and ignore you.

    ^this^


    Ignore lorsis, he shards 90% of his armor with beautiful garnets. b:cute
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol hell no (pun intended).

    they just sleep/stun/seal and ignore you.

    Its why you combine spark with anti stun and then 1 shot things with pyro gush
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    Its why you combine spark with anti stun and then 1 shot things with pyro gush

    b:byeif you could live long enough with the gear you got.b:cute
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    morning dew makes them strong... with glacial embrace, stone barrier and pyroshell ... GG

    Oh and gush too . Wizards would die without this b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool

    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    morning dew makes them strong... with glacial embrace, stone barrier and pyroshell ... GG

    Oh and gush too . Wizards would die without this b:chuckle

    i can one shot some people with triple spark gush. It does about 5k ish damage. Dont underestimate gush....
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i can one shot some people with triple spark gush. It does about 5k ish damage. Dont underestimate gush....

    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.

    Eehm, 10k crits = 5k normal hits?
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.
    Find some demon mage here at my server. At same level as me. I guarantee you, that I will survive more than 1 second with demon spark and You can prepare yourself for re-roll. b:laugh
    When I will have same weapon as Elayne do you think you would survive sage dragon? Not even spark. On another side.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.
    read below
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Eehm, 10k crits = 5k normal hits?

    ^this^

    i crit a BM for 12k with triple spark gush.

    And my gush doesnt have the 600 damage modifier
    If we do the same damage and my wep is much worse than yours(+4 WoDF 1 immac saph against your +9 neon purgatory).

    lol @ your gear.

    b:byei put flawless in the gear im getting rid of later
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i can one shot some people with triple spark gush. It does about 5k ish damage. Dont underestimate gush....

    whoa wth o_o and your gears are weapon is less refined than his lol
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool

    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    whoa wth o_o and your gears are weapon is less refined than his lol

    b:shutupthats what i said

    oh and im not pure mag btw b:surrender
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i crit a BM for 12k with triple spark gush.

    bm was debuffed by heavenly flame or he used pdef sutra or unbuffed?
  • brownflamer
    brownflamer Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.

    Ty for sharing your demon wiz experiences b:thanks

    I'm no longer sure if I wanna go demon/sage.....but I will make my desicion when the time comes b:victory
    PS......I'm half-joking b:mischievous
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Is not problem hit gush for 12K is 3sparked and critic and target unbuffed. And -30% channeling(spark +gear if stuck). Now count with me. Gush has channeling 1s -30%=0.7s. Do you really think that you see difference 0.3s? If you channeling GS yes you can see the difference but with low channeling spells is difference almost none. It would be huge difference if you channel ultimate. But in PvP we mainly use 3 basic spell. Which has sage channeling also very low.b:chuckle
    And If i need to channel ultimate in PVP I'm using it with sutra.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MrMelvin - Heavens Tear_1313879320
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear_1313879320 Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't really feel like im undergeared... But yes i have 2 pieces of hh90 with beautiful shards... Im working on 99 so im not even wasting stones on these.
    5k spark gush? I do that much weaponless... 3 spark gush does around 10k dmg if it crit...(ask this +12 nirvana bow guy how fun it is to tank 3 spark hell gush crit hits... ^^) 3 sparked hell wizard with -30 channelling on gear is a fkin beast. Im a damn mage but if i see a mage red sparking during pk war i just drop off my mount or holy pathing away cause i know something bad is going to happen, Even me, biggest mage hater have to admit that it's not even fair.
    Many peoples say heaven dragon is the best skill in this game... Well my vote goes to hell spark. And im not even trolling now. If you don't belive me... Well go ask zerhee, elayne, ehee, insomnia to 3 spark and hit you. If any of you sage mages survive more than 1 second with any od them, i'll roll a sage wizard.

    Eh, I like you, You're an idiot b:cute
    DrMelvin: Level 90 Cleric > Retired
    MrMelvin: Level 8X British Wizard > Active And Owning

    b:victory

    For Corn: One corn to rule them all and in the darkness cream them b:shocked (That should be your sig dude!)
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    bm was debuffed by heavenly flame or he used pdef sutra or unbuffed?

    the BM had no buffs.

    Triple spark > undine > ex poison > gush > 12k crit > gg
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the BM had no buffs.

    Triple spark > undine > ex poison > gush > 12k crit > gg

    *cough* i did it with no undine or poison. And unbuffed. But well if your +4 glaive & your not pure build does more damage than mine +9 wand with pure build.... well you're my master.

    @mumin
    Difference is big, sometimes it saving my ****.
    @melvin
    Stfu you small butthurt lowbie
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    *cough* i did it with no undine or poison. And unbuffed. But well if your +4 glaive & your not pure build does more damage than mine +9 wand with pure build.... well you're my master.

    @mumin
    Difference is big, sometimes it saving my ****.
    @melvin
    Stfu you small butthurt lowbie

    b:cutemake me a sammich
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I love these threads b:chuckle

    Still goin demon though b:victory
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the BM had no buffs.

    Triple spark > undine > ex poison > gush > 12k crit > gg

    and bm dont used sutra too?

    then that bm have really low mdef at 9x XD
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »
    and bm dont used sutra too?

    then that bm have really low mdef at 9x XD

    it was in TW.
    with magic marrow it wouldve done upper 4k or so.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
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