OMG T_T for ppl about my nix....

Sandaili - Dreamweaver

Why the hell do people only want to fight you if you don't heal your pet....

I don't tell others to take off their armor when I fight them, or put down their weapon...people need to man up and just duel straight up. It is NOT hard to fight a veno with a nix. Or a herc. Go after the damn veno....

End rant....I didn't pay a bunch during Christmas to let my nix die during duels from not healing her.

Iluc - Sanctuary

they also QQ over bms stuns, and using sutra, i dont see the problem, its the skills of a bm

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

b:surrender
That why i am not bothering to pvp on pve server.
Because most random people you invite to duel will has so many rules involved. b:sad
(no hp mp pot is different from no pet heal <.<)

VILKASS - Sanctuary

Just sore losers. Dont pay attention.

Sinalee - Dreamweaver

yeha also not healing nix -.- yeha right thats only a problem if u wanna kill the nix and u know what guys that COST loyalty = unnessesary cost come on.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Sandaili - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Why the hell do people only want to fight you if you don't heal your pet....

I don't tell others to take off their armor when I fight them, or put down their weapon...people need to man up and just duel straight up. It is NOT hard to fight a veno with a nix. Or a herc. Go after the damn veno....

End rant....I didn't pay a bunch during Christmas to let my nix die during duels from not healing her.

When your nix will be nerfed same like my DOT spells I don't mind. Not nerfed nix is HUGE mistake from GM. But they earning money from it that's why they don't repair it.
It's totally unfair to another players.

kenlee

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

When your nix will be nerfed same like my DOT spells I don't mind. Not nerfed nix is HUGE mistake from GM. But they earning money from it that's why they don't repair it.
It's totally unfair to another players.

shard and refine your armor, nix will do **** damage even if its just pve damage (no pvp reduction)
nix cant be refined

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

kenlee wrote: »

shard and refine your armor, nix will do **** damage even if its just pve damage (no pvp reduction)
nix cant be refined

Apparently you never fight with high level nix.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

kenlee wrote: »

shard and refine your armor, nix will do **** damage even if its just pve damage (no pvp reduction)
nix cant be refined

2k damage per bleed tick on Arcanes is **** damage? Alright go fight some 9x venos, let's see how long you last.

Isala - Sanctuary

It's funny. It really is. People complain about the damage on robe classes when being faced by a nix, when a good archer can oneshot a Robe class, and yet nobody calls for their nerfing, because "It's SUPPOSED to be like that." Nobody cries about Wizards being able to oneshot entire groups of people with AoEs, because it's "Supposed to be like that"... Just laugh and kill them. Ignore the QQ. It's all most people in this game know how to do anymore... Look at the Tideborn QQ. Some claim the class is OP, some cry that they're 90, and have no skills, some complain because there is no TT weapons... Just pwn them, and tell them to "Cry Moar."

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

ever take the time to think, there are no rules in pvp aside from no cheating as in using 3rd party programs/hacks to help you win. this is kind of a waste of a thread/

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Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's funny. It really is. People complain about the damage on robe classes when being faced by a nix, when a good archer can oneshot a Robe class, and yet nobody calls for their nerfing, because "It's SUPPOSED to be like that." Nobody cries about Wizards being able to oneshot entire groups of people with AoEs, because it's "Supposed to be like that"... Just laugh and kill them. Ignore the QQ. It's all most people in this game know how to do anymore... Look at the Tideborn QQ. Some claim the class is OP, some cry that they're 90, and have no skills, some complain because there is no TT weapons... Just pwn them, and tell them to "Cry Moar."

Can I keep their drops too?

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's funny. It really is. People complain about the damage on robe classes when being faced by a nix, when a good archer can oneshot a Robe class, and yet nobody calls for their nerfing, because "It's SUPPOSED to be like that." Nobody cries about Wizards being able to oneshot entire groups of people with AoEs, because it's "Supposed to be like that"... Just laugh and kill them. Ignore the QQ. It's all most people in this game know how to do anymore... Look at the Tideborn QQ. Some claim the class is OP, some cry that they're 90, and have no skills, some complain because there is no TT weapons... Just pwn them, and tell them to "Cry Moar."

You know what? Every1 has reduced damage in PVP so why not nix? Also another classes were made for some reason. Barb=tank, wizard=damage, BM=stunt, cleric=heal, veno=solo etc. Is not FAIR if veno pet doesn't have reduced damage if every1 else has. I want have also not reduced damage for veno's pets. Nix would be 1shoted with my weakest spell. Would you like it?

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

it does have reduced damage, if you knew anything about anything, itd be flesh ream that doesnt get reduced all the way.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »

it does have reduced damage, if you knew anything about anything, itd be flesh ream that doesnt get reduced all the way.

So You telling me that nix doing damage in PVE 12k+?

Accel - Raging Tide

It's like how melees QQ about casters "running" (its called kiting guys~)

Lets make a deal.. casters won't kite if melees stand 20 meters away from us b:chuckle

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Accel - Raging Tide wrote: »

It's like how melees QQ about casters "running" (its called kiting guys~)

Lets make a deal.. casters won't kite if melees stand 20 meters away from us b:chuckle

Oooh let's make another deal! I won't Q.Q about nix bleed if you don't use it!

Isala - Sanctuary

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You know what? Every1 has reduced damage in PVP so why not nix? Also another classes were made for some reason. Barb=tank, wizard=damage, BM=stunt, cleric=heal, veno=solo etc. Is not FAIR if veno pet doesn't have reduced damage if every1 else has. I want have also not reduced damage for veno's pets. Nix would be 1shoted with my weakest spell. Would you like it?

I don't have a nix, so, honestly, I could really care less if it gets oneshot. I've got my own ways of killing people, and they don't involve the QQBird. I PK with the old Golem. And I do a pretty good job of it. In the air, it's just a simple matter of casting at people. Sure, at that point, wizards and clerics kinda suck to fight, but Heavy and Light Armor classes die pretty well. Everyone likes to talk so much **** about so much **** they don't understand. It's kinda pathetic. I fight Nixes, just like the rest of you. And I'm not just talking about my Veno either. I've done it with my Wizard, as well. Granted, he's not 9x, but the fact remains. They're not the threat anymore. We've got so many ways to deal with them, they're more of a nuisance than anything else. Want to kill your average Nix Veno? It's quite simple. Put two skills on your genie. Nullify Poison, and Blood Clot. Nullify Poison makes you immune to their casts, and Blood Clot makes you immune to bleed. 7 seconds of Anti Wood, and 10 seconds of Anti Bleed. Since most PvP is over in even less than 10 seconds due to the fact that it has to be due to charm tick, that's all you honestly need for the "OMG NIX". Veno can't hurt you, Nix can't bleed you. In the time it takes the Veno to realize something has gone horribly wrong, you've either killed their bird, or taken them out. What is honestly so hard about that?

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't have a nix, so, honestly, I could really care less if it gets oneshot. I've got my own ways of killing people, and they don't involve the QQBird. I PK with the old Golem. And I do a pretty good job of it. In the air, it's just a simple matter of casting at people. Sure, at that point, wizards and clerics kinda suck to fight, but Heavy and Light Armor classes die pretty well. Everyone likes to talk so much **** about so much **** they don't understand. It's kinda pathetic. I fight Nixes, just like the rest of you. And I'm not just talking about my Veno either. I've done it with my Wizard, as well. Granted, he's not 9x, but the fact remains. They're not the threat anymore. We've got so many ways to deal with them, they're more of a nuisance than anything else. Want to kill your average Nix Veno? It's quite simple. Put two skills on your genie. Nullify Poison, and Blood Clot. Nullify Poison makes you immune to their casts, and Blood Clot makes you immune to bleed. 7 seconds of Anti Wood, and 10 seconds of Anti Bleed. Since most PvP is over in even less than 10 seconds due to the fact that it has to be due to charm tick, that's all you honestly need for the "OMG NIX". Veno can't hurt you, Nix can't bleed you. In the time it takes the Veno to realize something has gone horribly wrong, you've either killed their bird, or taken them out. What is honestly so hard about that?

Why should I use my genie for fixing dev. fault? If it would be normal as should be I didn't have to use genie spells. They are more important genie spells not for fixing dev. mistake. All I want is have same conditions for every class. If in PVP has every1 damage reduced I demand the same for veno's pets. I think is legitimate request. Or then I want not reduced damage to veno's pets also.
Then all these QQ disappear.

DeadLights - Heavens Tear

It isn't the nix that is the bug my bear has FR and does full also so quit QQ over a derv bug that wont ever get fixed.

TigerLily - Lost City

Pretty sure developers knows that bleed have no dmg reduction in pvp. They could easily fix it if they wanted to but they wont because venos would be slightly gimp w/o it endgame.

I would never die to a veno that didn't have nix + bleed, the dmg from spells, amp, purge, pecks just isn't enough to out-dd a charm when people have over 10k+ hp.

At lvl 80 or so bleed is terribly OP but 99+ its kinda lame dmg in comparison to other things. Its DoT dmg so it cant even bypass a charm, just tick it. Barbs + wizards and True Emptiness hurts much more than venos with nix bleed b:angry.

Isala - Sanctuary

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why should I use my genie for fixing dev. fault? If it would be normal as should be I didn't have to use genie spells. They are more important genie spells not for fixing dev. mistake. All I want is have same conditions for every class. If in PVP has every1 damage reduced I demand the same for veno's pets. I think is legitimate request. Or then I want not reduced damage to veno's pets also.
Then all these QQ disappear.

Don't get me wrong, I understand about the non-nerfed Bleed damage. I'd like to see it reduced as well. But crying about it does nothing. But after the QQ about Bleed ends, people will find another reason to claim about OP Venos. I believe the latest whine was about Purge, if I'm not mistaken.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I understand about the non-nerfed Bleed damage. I'd like to see it reduced as well. But crying about it does nothing. But after the QQ about Bleed ends, people will find another reason to claim about OP Venos. I believe the latest whine was about Purge, if I'm not mistaken.

Sure people find another QQ. But this nix QQ is made by dev. and shouldn't be so QQ is relevant. Because every1 has damage reduced. So every1 should have same condition. Another QQs doesn't have to be relevant because the conditions are not same for every1. But PVP damage reduction is base stone in game balance and mechanics.

Darksylph - Heavens Tear

DeadLights - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It isn't the nix that is the bug my bear has FR and does full also so quit QQ over a derv bug that wont ever get fixed.

The reports from the GMs after talking to the devs was "working as intended".

Nix has reduced Dmg in PvP, like any other pet.

Flesh Ream, on ANY pet, has much less reduction (it isnt full dmg, but like 75% instead of 25% dmg).

Flesh Ream in PvE has no use, its total dmg is less then Bash over time (this includes Bash having 8 sec CD vs FRs 15 sec CD).

Flesh Ream IS the PvP skill, its purpose is to be used for PvP dmg. Its working as intended.

Long long ago ppl cried over Kowlin & Sawfly (when FR given) in PvP. Now its the Nix. Its not any of the pets, its Flesh Ream. If you're going to QQ, at least learn where to place the QQ.

Yulk - Heavens Tear

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:surrender
That why i am not bothering to pvp on pve server.
Because most random people you invite to duel will has so many rules involved. b:sad
(no hp mp pot is different from no pet heal <.<)

Same reason *cough* . I don't think it makes any difference on PVP servers either. PVE more fun anyways xD

Crypsis - Lost City

Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The reports from the GMs after talking to the devs was "working as intended".

Nix has reduced Dmg in PvP, like any other pet.

Flesh Ream, on ANY pet, has much less reduction (it isnt full dmg, but like 75% instead of 25% dmg).

Flesh Ream in PvE has no use, its total dmg is less then Bash over time (this includes Bash having 8 sec CD vs FRs 15 sec CD).

Flesh Ream IS the PvP skill, its purpose is to be used for PvP dmg. Its working as intended.

Long long ago ppl cried over Kowlin & Sawfly (when FR given) in PvP. Now its the Nix. Its not any of the pets, its Flesh Ream. If you're going to QQ, at least learn where to place the QQ.

Yeah flesh ream is the issue not the nix, all tho FL does work as intended. Maybe they should change the skills description and add "without pvp reduction" so people can stop assuming its a bug that will get fixed if they spam enough tickets lol.

This game has been running for over 6 years and flesh ream always did pve dmg in pvp. Pretty sure developers would have fixed it by now if it actually was a bug.

I personally don't think FR should have its damage reduced in pvp. Venos, even with +10 weapon, dont hit that hard and need the extra boost from bleed endgame.

I think the best around it would be not being able to max out bleed until lvl90+ when people have the gear to survive it. At my lvl bleed is rather overwhelming damage b:cry.

Holgeer - Lost City

PvP is senseless, moneywaste and stupid, but it makes fun^^

I think NIX isnt OP and doesnt need to become more weak, because the point is some Wizzys or clerics are just QQing bout the extremly hard dmg from bleed (ca. 1,5k dmg all 2 or 3 secs. have 3,5k hp unbuffed, 5,2k p def with stone barrier). If I see a NIX heading to me I just start Celestrial eruption or absolot domain so I resist Bleed and stun and can kill heavy and light veno at most with 1-3 hits (depends on charmed veno and equip) as well as I think if i reach ca. 6-7k hp unbuffed the bleed wouldnt hurt as much as it does atm.

Olba - Sanctuary

Ah, so Q_Q about Nix is getting boring, now you need to Q_Q about people who Q_Q about nixes.

Great.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Holgeer - Lost City wrote: »

PvP is senseless, moneywaste and stupid, but it makes fun^^

I think NIX isnt OP and doesnt need to become more weak, because the point is some Wizzys or clerics are just QQing bout the extremly hard dmg from bleed (ca. 1,5k dmg all 2 or 3 secs. have 3,5k hp unbuffed, 5,2k p def with stone barrier). If I see a NIX heading to me I just start Celestrial eruption or absolot domain so I resist Bleed and stun and can kill heavy and light veno at most with 1-3 hits (depends on charmed veno and equip) as well as I think if i reach ca. 6-7k hp unbuffed the bleed wouldnt hurt as much as it does atm.

Absolute domain is 4s. Is not enough to survive nix. If you are stunned and bleeded + damage from veno your HP is gone in 3s. Apparently you weren't in TW. Veno's not damage reduced nix is the most deadly for arcanes. And I repeat again. If nix doesn't have damage reduce on me I also demand my damage doesn't reduce on nix.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

90+ phoenix bleeds me, I laugh and kill the veno as the phonenix attacks me. Or kill the bird and watch the veno run away like the coward they are. The bird isn't a threat if you know how to handle it.