OMG its sunday TW QQ

ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
edited March 2010 in General Discussion
Dear pwi,
A great man had a dream ONCE .....IF ONLY HIS DREAM WAS IN PWI where all players in pwi were TREATED AS equals .... in this dream all europeans, asians and americans could play this game in its glory .... but sad to say it was just a dream. As a european,I have to wake up at 4am to tw QQ.. and all my european, asian brothers and sisters have CRAZZY TIMES TO. so plz if ur called perfect world international, and it seems more international players are playing this game. HOW COME WE HAVE MONDAY MORNING 4AM+ TWS FOR US INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS ? WHEN THEY COULD BE MOVED EARLiER IN THE DAY. AND JUST A THOUGHT AS U SEEMED TO BE ONLY INTeRSTED IN MONEY ..... MAKE IT NO SUnDAY NIGHT SERVER TIMES= MORE INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS BUYING CHARMS TO TW= MORE PROFIT FOR U GUYS DOH !!!
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    you should consider yourself lucky an american subsidiary even allows your region into the game as there is a EU version. adjust to the time zones, or play the -5:00 GMT servers, or shut up.
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  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    you should consider yourself lucky an american subsidiary even allows your region into the game as there is a EU version. adjust to the time zones, or play the -5:00 GMT servers, or shut up.

    LOL U FUNNY.. nice button pressing ding ding any 1 in
  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    you should consider yourself lucky an american subsidiary even allows your region into the game as there is a EU version. adjust to the time zones, or play the -5:00 GMT servers, or shut up.

    hate to say it, but agreed
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  • Arhil - Heavens Tear
    Arhil - Heavens Tear Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Waffle's right... PWI could just as easily have said "Sorry, you must be in the Western hemisphere to play this game." .... But they didn't. It's an American company, with servers in America. Why SHOULD they adapt & change everything around to meet YOUR needs?
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    TW times really make no sense, especially from the EU perspective.

    If a Sunday war starts at 8pm PST, that's 11EST.... many people on the East Coast may have a hard time participating on Sundays if they have work or school the next day.

    Sure, MY and CN have it a little easier, but the people in Eurorpe often have to wake up or stay awake to 3-5am... seeing how this is supposedly an "international" version of the game they would adjust the times a few hours earlier.

    The time slots do make sense for a single country or region (as it was originally designed) but for the international market, just isn't smart.
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It's all about the US. We should get on our knees and kiss their feet for letting us play, oh the generosity.

    This is still a business, and they know other regions pay money too. So no, there's nothing to thank them for.
  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Arhil - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Waffle's right... PWI could just as easily have said "Sorry, you must be in the Western hemisphere to play this game." .... But they didn't. It's an American company, with servers in America. Why SHOULD they adapt & change everything around to meet YOUR needs?

    well **** most companys from amercia no that the O might $ is key seeing how 60% is none american so thats 60 % of profit marging thier missing out on on charms etc .. go $ lol we charge zen as well rember :) oh yeah and that pays the bills just a thought o,0
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    @karst
    if youve seen how horribly fail the EU version is, you would haha.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    TW times really make no sense, especially from the EU perspective.

    If a Sunday war starts at 8pm PST, that's 11EST.... many people on the East Coast may have a hard time participating on Sundays if they have work or school the next day.

    Sure, MY and CN have it a little easier, but the people in Eurorpe often have to wake up or stay awake to 3-5am... seeing how this is supposedly an "international" version of the game they would adjust the times a few hours earlier.

    The time slots do make sense for a single country or region (as it was originally designed) but for the international market, just isn't smart.

    well siad thank u
  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    alright, i'm going to end this right now


    lets say they fix TW times so ya'll europeans can have your precious TW

    guess what? now the other half of the world QQ's cause they are **** out like you were before the "fix"

    hence, SOMEONE WILL BE **** OUT, and since this is an american-hosted version, it caters PRIMARILY to americans
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    @karst
    if youve seen how horribly fail the EU version is, you would haha.

    That's a matter of perspective. I could say the same about this versions's "pack-economy" and "oracle-community".
  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    @karst
    if youve seen how horribly fail the EU version is, you would haha.

    lol keep pressing them buttons lol u to funny donh!!
  • Arhil - Heavens Tear
    Arhil - Heavens Tear Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    well **** most companys from amercia no that the O might $ is key seeing how 60% is none american so thats 60 % of profit marging thier missing out on on charms etc .. go $ lol we charge zen as well rember :) oh yeah and that pays the bills just a thought o,0

    Stuff in red... was that really necessary? But whatever, thanks for that...

    Anyway, I'm not arguing that international customers also buy zen, give the company $, etc... What I'm saying is that at the end of the day, it's an American company, so it only makes sense for them to base everything around American times. If we go by your logic, they should have a TW every hour, so that people in every time zone could participate... That'd be fair, right? Good luck trying to coordinate that kinda mess...
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  • sobojan
    sobojan Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Take away the players outside US timezones and you are going to have a pretty empty server, in Heaven's Tear. Even for USA players, Sunday afternoon TW's makes more sense than Sunday night. I agree with the original post.
  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Alexenokin - Lost City wrote: »
    alright, i'm going to end this right now


    lets say they fix TW times so ya'll europeans can have your precious TW

    guess what? now the other half of the world QQ's cause they are **** out like you were before the "fix"

    hence, SOMEONE WILL BE **** OUT, and since this is an american-hosted version, it caters PRIMARILY to americans

    ok so u havent been in tws or now much about the times etc.... to make no sunday night server tims is no issue. just push tyhme on saturday then evening etc. all it takes is 3 hours moving and bannning sunday nights .. not hard gzzz we put a man on the moon
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That's a matter of perspective. I could say the same about this versions's "pack-economy" and "oracle-community".
    theres a difference between some stupid cash shop item and actual horrible game service. the EU version is horribly laggy, lacks almost all the major content, and has horrible customer service... its utter garbage, seriously. has nothing to do with perspective
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  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    sobojan wrote: »
    Take away the players outside US timezones and you are going to have a pretty empty server, in Heaven's Tear. Even for USA players, Sunday afternoon TW's makes more sense than Sunday night. I agree with the original post.

    i am not talking about taking away the usa players... i am asking pwi looks after the none am,aericans that pays alot of $ to play this game and misss out on so much due to times ... makes no sense as a company lossing out on profit margins due to blindnesss adjust times for all to enjoy is all i ask ..

    and ps i just noticed missed understod sry u right :)
  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok so u havent been in tws or now much about the times etc.... to make no sunday night server tims is no issue. just push tyhme on saturday then evening etc. all it takes is 3 hours moving and bannning sunday nights .. not hard gzzz we put a man on the moon

    i'm not gonna argue with you that pushing the sunday times to the afternoon instead of the night is a good idea, cause i agree, sundays are hard to do night TWs especially for those with jobs/school (even in USA)

    but simple fact remains, no matter how much you try to re-schedule the time slots, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, in the world will complain about the TWs being in the middle of the night

    hence why they put the TW times according to american days/nights, because after all, we host the game
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    theres a difference between some stupid cash shop item and actual horrible game service. the EU version is horribly laggy, lacks almost all the major content, and has horrible customer service... its utter garbage, seriously. has nothing to do with perspective

    Yes it is. It's not just some stupid cash shop item, it messed up the whole economy.
    Perhaps it lacks content. but at least the content there doesn't take a big chunk of an average person's salary.

    When I tried that version, I actually had less lag than over here.

    As for horrible customer service. Removing hairstyles from players and then saying those haircuts were a bug is excellent "customer service".
  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yes it is. It's not just some stupid cash shop item, it messed up the whole economy.
    agreed, but who cares? things have stabilized, and the stuff turns out to not be so damn "uber" as everyone thought it was
    Perhaps it lacks content. but at least the content there doesn't take a big chunk of an average person's salary.
    there's very little content here that takes RL money, and all that content is entirely optional
    When I tried that version, I actually had less lag than over here.
    probably because you live nearer to the EU servers?
    As for horrible customer service. Removing hairstyles from players and then saying those haircuts were a bug is excellent "customer service".
    that's because it WAS a bug. look at the hairstyle ICONS. they were bugged, giving the wrong hairstyles (granted, those were nice hairstyles)

    look at me :D
    i'm a fish :D
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    it is just a cash shop item, and its not inhibiting your ability to play, nor do you need any $ to play any content here. last i checked them and PH pw were still celebrating lost empire...

    they looked into and have fixed the hairissue too.

    youre just arguing semantics. PWI > EU. its an american company to cater to americans. irregardless of what time TW is at, someone is going to be odd man out.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
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  • sobojan
    sobojan Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Moving more of the TW times to Saturday and Sunday afternoons, does NOT make it inconvenient to Americans in the least, but does make it far more accessible to other time zones. Just makes sense is all.
  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    sobojan wrote: »
    Moving more of the TW times to Saturday and Sunday afternoons, does NOT make it inconvenient to Americans in the least, but does make it far more accessible to other time zones. Just makes sense is all.

    nice to see some 1 with a realistc coment
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Alexenokin - Lost City wrote: »
    alright, i'm going to end this right now


    lets say they fix TW times so ya'll europeans can have your precious TW

    guess what? now the other half of the world QQ's cause they are **** out like you were before the "fix"

    hence, SOMEONE WILL BE **** OUT, and since this is an american-hosted version, it caters PRIMARILY to americans

    You didn't end anything, you just continue to amaze with your ignorance.

    The times set for TW aren't set by PWI or even adjusted for the 'international' market as it should be. TW times were originally set for a single time zone. So everyone who would TW would stay up no later than 11pm getting it done.

    Hell, this is even common sense. But yeah, you're leveled every class and every cultivation to endgame. lol
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  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    The times set for TW aren't set by PWI or even adjusted for the 'international' market as it should be. TW times were originally set for a single time zone. So everyone who would TW would stay up no later than 11pm getting it done.

    you just said exactly what i was saying btw b:chuckle
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  • Arhil - Heavens Tear
    Arhil - Heavens Tear Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ok, for the sake of argument, let's say they decide to move the TW's up a few hours, like you guys are proposing.

    Most of you guys who are QQ'ing about this are where? Europe, right? Ok, so they move the TW's, and now what happens? Suddenly the players a few hours past you guys start QQ'ing cause now it's the middle of the night for THEM!

    Do you understand the point? No matter when the TW's are, there will ALWAYS be a group that gets the shaft, time-wise. There's just no way around that.
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  • ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear
    ZephyrZeus - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You didn't end anything, you just continue to amaze with your ignorance.

    The times set for TW aren't set by PWI or even adjusted for the 'international' market as it should be. TW times were originally set for a single time zone. So everyone who would TW would stay up no later than 11pm getting it done.

    Hell, this is even common sense. But yeah, you're leveled every class and every cultivation to endgame. lol

    again well put dude wish i could axplain it as good as u thank u .
  • sobla72
    sobla72 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    it is called PWI for a reson i live in Amerca and it is not fare to allow the times to be set for us alone !!!!!
  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Alexenokin - Lost City wrote: »
    Yes it is. It's not just some stupid cash shop item, it messed up the whole economy.

    agreed, but who cares? things have stabilized, and the stuff turns out to not be so damn "uber" as everyone thought it was
    It's not so much about the "uber" stuff to me. I'm a casual CSer and I buy something if I really want it (Fashion, mount etc). Some other stuff I like to buy by using ingame coins, which has now become pretty expensive.

    Perhaps it lacks content. but at least the content there doesn't take a big chunk of an average person's salary.

    there's very little content here that takes RL money, and all that content is entirely optional
    Playing the game is optional too. I choose to play and pay once in a while. Over there I get more stuff for my money.

    When I tried that version, I actually had less lag than over here.

    probably because you live nearer to the EU servers?
    That was exactly my point to Tear. He lags because he lives further away.

    As for horrible customer service. Removing hairstyles from players and then saying those haircuts were a bug is excellent "customer service".
    that's because it WAS a bug. look at the hairstyle ICONS. they were bugged, giving the wrong hairstyles (granted, those were nice hairstyles)
    How are you so sure the icons weren't bugged instead? Or what about adding the ones on the icons instead of adding and removing

    b:cute
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it is just a cash shop item, and its not inhibiting your ability to play, nor do you need any $ to play any content here. last i checked them and PH pw were still celebrating lost empire...

    they looked into and have fixed the hairissue too.

    youre just arguing semantics. PWI > EU. its an american company to cater to americans. irregardless of what time TW is at, someone is going to be odd man out.

    The effect, that is, ruining the economy, did change my game experience. (again personal perspective)
    PWI was also way behind MY and China. It's possible for PWMS to catch up too. Saying it isn't is just a biased view of yours.

    The hairstyle problem wasn't fixed. I don't call a free make-over scroll, without putting the old styles back in, a fix.

    PWI is an American company to cater to their customers. Which is what business do.
  • sobla72
    sobla72 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    but if the times was set up fairly it would not be a issue cas we all would have times we like and dislike

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