Buying Manufacturing Skills

Elviron - Dreamweaver

Umm well I can do that at my current level ... thank you . Just not with ingame coins.

My point is that, if you had that much, you can easily upgrade your manufacturing skills for a lot less than 120 gold. So its more of a choice on how u spend the gold - either go directly for the packs or sell gold, buy mats and 2*s, upgrade skills.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, but there was on guarantee they could make the items. We all know mats have always been available but it wasn't just a handout. You still had to work for your manufacturing skills and now it's a handout just like good gear and levels.

PWI has done enough to give cash shoppers advantages, they need to quit before non cash shoppers quit, because that would ruin the cash shoppers income of money meaning they can't get rich anymore by selling gold to those who don't buy it... and that would probably result in quitting since majority of them don't know how to actually play the game.

I wonder what they'll do without all those cash shoppers wanting to buy their items... hmm

buying mats clicking manufacturer an flying from one npc to another isn't really hard work.
its nothing compared to people that actually farmed their lunar gear, OHT, the cube, their sage/demon skills, or actually grind-ed their way to 100.

I'm not saying adding another purchasable instant gratification "accomplishment" to the cash shop is a good thing for players, but considering what they have already put in the cash shop, its just not a big deal. its not like there aren't tons of people in the game with their skills leveled already, it doesn't change the game at all, and if they can figure out how to generate money without having making a significant impact on the game, I'm all for it. Im a couple items away from having lvl 7 in all the crafting skills, and I really don't find this offensive at all, you wanna spend 30 gold/12M coins to level your skills? go ahead, waste your money, its yours to waste, you can get the levels the old way for far less.

TheChiken - Dreamweaver wrote: »

How much this boxes costs in coins(Milions?)
And if you have for example Tailor lvl 3 with 1 box you can max it to 8?

with gold at 400k, the boxes cost 12M in coin.

your gonna have to find someone silly enough to buy the box to get your second question answered. b:surrender

Heartstone - Dreamweaver

I am SO happy i never trained my lvls in anything except apotecary lol.
lol now its a joke. just gonna put in 120 gold some day in the near future i guess, but will probly wait to do on on my sin, as i mostly play there.

btw. lvl 87 on sin so obvious cant get lvl 8 from boxes. if i buy and use, will i then still have a lvl 8 box to use by 99 , in which i could save in bank ?

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Prices of mats were a little on the rocks lately, although they have stabled out since I was trying to manufacture my skills.

Now I admit, I was lazy on my part to just leave my blacksmith and tailor at level 3 like I did until this level (incredibly so, but I'm too set in my procrastination "I'll do it tomorrow" ways to change) but frankly when I did try and start levelling things again, making two star items with mats I couldn't farm easily at my level was more than a little annoying. And rough fur is a great way to make money because, frankly, it's an expensive mat and you can make good coin if you're able to buy and sell properly, or farm it.

Which frankly, at level 87 and a secondary alt at level 66, farming those mats isn't the easiest any more. And I could just make a whole new farming character but... meh, I'm lazy like that.

However, all of this aside, your skills were always available in the cash shop. They've been selling materials since I can remember - the chances are a few people levelled their skills to seven and eight by buying from the boutique.

All these $30 packs do... is make it even easier for those people who already buy the mats from the boutique.

People who were farming beforehand can carry on farming and get your skills the old fashioned way. People who were already buying from the boutique can now just have "one time" investment in this whole thing.

Unless the packs are made in such away they only take you up one or two levels, in which case it becomes more than a one time investment and quite an expensive one at that.
But nothing has majorly changed.

And they'd already sold levels to new players. Why didn't you expect them to do this?

Traz - Dreamweaver

Heartstone - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I am SO happy i never trained my lvls in anything except apotecary lol.
lol now its a joke. just gonna put in 120 gold some day in the near future i guess, but will probly wait to do on on my sin, as i mostly play there.

btw. lvl 87 on sin so obvious cant get lvl 8 from boxes. if i buy and use, will i then still have a lvl 8 box to use by 99 , in which i could save in bank ?

From what I understand one time deal, it's nothing like supply stash.

Chimcharu - Lost City

Two days... I kid you not... Two days after throwing hundreds of thousand's of coins worth of mats into the slot machines dubbed manufacturing to make all of the "required" lvl 8 quest items; 23 items with 2 stars, out of over 80 attempts. Two days ago, this was an accomplishment.

What is it today?

It doesn't matter which server, harvesting mats is PvP. On a pk server getting mats is brutal. It takes endless hours of work to get the amount of mats needed to make great items, but it was worth it. There was a sense of reward at the end of it all.

Today it is an exercise of futility. Today being a crafter has become obsolete. Another element of enjoyment eliminated.

With every new update, it becomes more apparent. This game is not PvE or PvP. It is player vs cash shop. What happens when the cash shop wins?

Aclucius - Lost City

Candydrop - Lost City wrote: »

stop thinking of just mine mats, we need more then just refine steel, lumber etc to craft an armor or weapon, who on earth is going to buy glue or leather now? except for the amount u need to craft something you want to wear.

In case you didn't realize, people still had the option to buy dropped mats before this. They still bought them. This addition has in no way changed anything to do with the mats. All it has changed, as I said, is making it so people don't have to make those 2* weapons anymore.

Just because they want to craft a weapon doesn't mean that first one is gonna be the one they want. If I get a 1* weapon, I will craft another to try for 3*. If I am crafting armor, I still have 6 pieces I have to craft. Then when I want the next set, that is another 6. That is twelve pieces, all in the same manufacture level. Then, others have to make a belt, necklace, and 2 rings, and then they get to do that all over again for the next set making a total of 8. And I don't even need to mention apothecary items, that should be very obvious to you why we don't need to worry about herbs.

People have always had the option to either buy mats or farm them, whether it is the mined ones or the dropped ones.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

This is one of the better items PWI has come up with. It's pretty much the perfect cash shop item, because it only helps players who are in a hurry.

To me, that's good marketing and good gameplay. It's still cheaper to sell 30 Gold, buy the needed items, and get your skills that way, meaning only players who don't care about paying more in order to save some time will benefit.

So kudos to PWI.

Isala - Sanctuary

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Even though I am a avid Cash shopper, I honestly don't see myself buying any of these items. I know it sounds odd, but I actually like EARNING my crafting skill the old fashioned way. For those who would rather shell out the cash for this, cool. it's your dime, but I would rather work hard, slave, spend mad amounts of coin leveling up my skills, and then when they are all as high as I can get them, point at them and say "I actually worked for that", and feel proud when something wears my name on it.

Just me, others will feel different.

~S

This. I have a very high sense of pride in wearing something I've crafted. Which is why my main will ALWAYS wear either gear crafted by me, or gear with no name on it at all. Now... My alts? Still wearing gear made by me, for the most part. I'll let them wear something from a friend or my fiancee, but I'll be damned if I put something from some random dude on them.