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Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Winning or Losing has nothing to do with what i said, the point is Kylin was, is, and will continue to be like that one little ret@rded kid that whips out his junk during spin the bottle. 90% of posts by kylin members are either trying to make the server feel bad for them, or explaining why people should not like KD. I assume kylin still thinks they are underdogs with sht gear too, and they will continue to complain about getting bid on by prodigy, when they have to recruit the entire server to fight KD.
Isnt the server getting sick of this by now? Everyone else does the hard work and kylin just steps in and takes credit for it and reaps the benefit.
Again to recap, because other wise it will get flamed....My opinion of kylin is not based on winning or losing, but the way they go about things and want everyone to feel sorry for them.
KY isnt in carebear mode like KD, KY didnt get half its lands from 8mins rushes so we have more then enough reason to brag about we being the best possible guild to b on top in HLb:cool Anyways, u said recruiting half the server to fight u? Isnt that what KD basically did a few months ago when KY was fighting shoulder to against u guys? What happens now is that KY has been improving in lvls, sum high lvls also joined (which I c happening to KD too) and KY ppl never denied the fact they have slightly more ppl with better gear, the only prob is sum KD members always coming up with excuses like "KY won cuz they have ppl with better gear", "We lost cuz KY has better lvls", etc when the guilds were pretty matched. Sucks when u win a war fair and square against sum1 and this person wont acknowledge your win but will come up with excuses instead and thats what KD did most of the time.
Now tell me, every1 else does the hard work? Hasn't KY been beating KD in fair fights? How are ppl doing the hard job for KY? KY was losing and I remember u spaming on forums about how noob the server was, how KY was **** and stuff now tell me, are u expecting the server ppl to b behind u now that u r losing when u called them noobs and ****? Ye, I dont think so.0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »when they have to recruit the entire server to fight KD.
you're really talking about recruiting people to make a difference in TW, lol? both guilds have indeed recruited people from other factions to help in TW; anyone who argues that is either a really bad troll or just re'tarded. the difference is, now you're feeling what we felt a couple months ago: a lack of attendance/numbers & an obvious lack of strategy since the majority of your members run around like idiots doing god knows what (not trying to say KY is any better, but you can tell that KD isn't the same as they previously were in TW), ijs.
tbh it's not about making people 'feel sorry' for us, or making people hate KD. your members make people hate KD much better than anyone from KY could all on their own anyway.0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Winning or Losing has nothing to do with what i said, the point is Kylin was, is, and will continue to be like that one little ret@rded kid that whips out his junk during spin the bottle. 90% of posts by kylin members are either trying to make the server feel bad for them, or explaining why people should not like KD. I assume kylin still thinks they are underdogs with sht gear too, and they will continue to complain about getting bid on by prodigy, when they have to recruit the entire server to fight KD.
Isnt the server getting sick of this by now? Everyone else does the hard work and kylin just steps in and takes credit for it and reaps the benefit.
Again to recap, because other wise it will get flamed....My opinion of kylin is not based on winning or losing, but the way they go about things and want everyone to feel sorry for them.
I'll take the parts of your post that had arguments (blue) and respond to those the best I can ..everything else (red) is propaganda and not based on any logic but just thrown out there to make us look bad. (I understand its a hobby of yours and I wont go there)
"Winning and Loosing point": Fair enough.
90% of kylin posts: First, as is in yours and KD's case as well, most KY members and officers don't bother to post on the forums and don't read the forums. Therefore, you already have a limited subset of KY opinions that make it to the forums. Secondly, almost all instances of KY "garnering sympathy" (your point of view) is in response to someone trying to flame its members or the faction as a whole. Thirdly the 90% is imo an exaggeration.
Recruitment: Both factions do this and I don't see how this is a bad strategy, null argument.
My point is that you shouldn't extrapolate from what a few kylin members say or what you THINK they say into something that the entire faction endorses. (Much like what Jugg said about your posts not representing KD opinion).
For example if I were to also take what a few members of what KD said on these forums and extrapolate that the entire faction must think the same then I could say:
Ligeia:
If the Zulu war isn't stacked with both Evoke and Kylin, I'll be looking forward to it. If it is, well... one way or another, I guarantee it won't be fun for anyone except whichever guild gets a free land that day.
Juggernaut:
Exactly. A war would Zulu would be fun but as soon as it stacks with Kylin, or Evoke, it goes from friendly TW and changes into helping an enemy faction.
[L4WL GAIZ KD QQ ABOUT STACK WARS THEY MUST THINK THEY UNDERDOGS!!!111!1!]
As much as I would like to hold that opinion based on those statements it would be unfair to think that all KD think that way.
All those examples were taken from ZULU Statement thread.0 -
Look at how fast all those kylin members respond to what i say...
By "recruiting teh whole server" i dont mean into kylin, but guilds as a whole helping kylin. evoke, zulu, mayhem, kort, whoever else.
Did paimage actually say kylin isnt in carebear mode like kingdom? LOL. let me explain an event which recently occured at a world boss. KD is killing a WB, and zulu sees it, they come with about 10 people, next thing ya know 20 Kylin come in with maybe 5 evoke and completely zerg KD.
Again with paimage, "derp derp half our land isnt from 8 minute crystal rushes, therefore we are the best guild for teh server" i nearly sht myself when i read this. 1) all the land either KD or Kylin got prior to kosing each other was easy TWs, so there is 1 point gone. 2) kylin has relied on stacked wars WAY WAY WAY more than KD, dont even argue that cause for the last 3 months we have been getting TW zerged, while kylin complains about the guilds that bid on them that dont even have max refund.
News for you, Kylins tactics have remained the same as well as Kingdoms, so whats the difference? Zulu recruits from KD, while kylin improves their gear in general. We basically gear people up so they can leave KD. Also we usually have about 85 people online for 3 wars which is pathetic for a TW faction. But i dont know how this discussion even turned into a TW discussion.
Kylin loves to prove my point by spam flaming me every time i post, i love it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Kylin loves to prove my point by spam flaming me every time i post
So how about responding to my post, which I made a point of not including any flame material, instead?0 -
Stayne - Harshlands wrote: »So how about responding to my post, which I made a point of not including any flame material, instead?
It was too long of a post, leave me a condensed version that i can read and respond to withing a minute or two between classes.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I completely skipped the last page of this thread, soo ye.
Anywho... Taboo, you say you are not taking the whole map, but its quite clear you are. Now, I know you remember. Before Icon quit (nuuu) and gave to Ray, what was in his vision for tw map? It certainly was not domination. I know. But do you? Please tell me.
The worst mistake I ever made was making my sin on HL.
OK **** that. Worst mistake was doing what I did with Era,Wonhalt0 -
Stayne - Harshlands wrote: »I'll take the parts of your post that had arguments (blue) and respond to those the best I can ..everything else (red) is propaganda and not based on any logic but just thrown out there to make us look bad. (I understand its a hobby of yours and I wont go there)
"Winning and Loosing point": Fair enough.
90% of kylin posts: First, as is in yours and KD's case as well, most KY members and officers don't bother to post on the forums and don't read the forums. Therefore, you already have a limited subset of KY opinions that make it to the forums. Secondly, almost all instances of KY "garnering sympathy" (your point of view) is in response to someone trying to flame its members or the faction as a whole. Thirdly the 90% is imo an exaggeration.
Recruitment: Both factions do this and I don't see how this is a bad strategy, null argument.
My point is that you shouldn't extrapolate from what a few kylin members say or what you THINK they say into something that the entire faction endorses. (Much like what Jugg said about your posts not representing KD opinion).
For example if I were to also take what a few members of what KD said on these forums and extrapolate that the entire faction must think the same then I could say:
Ligeia:
If the Zulu war isn't stacked with both Evoke and Kylin, I'll be looking forward to it. If it is, well... one way or another, I guarantee it won't be fun for anyone except whichever guild gets a free land that day.
Juggernaut:
Exactly. A war would Zulu would be fun but as soon as it stacks with Kylin, or Evoke, it goes from friendly TW and changes into helping an enemy faction.
[L4WL GAIZ KD QQ ABOUT STACK WARS THEY MUST THINK THEY UNDERDOGS!!!111!1!]
As much as I would like to hold that opinion based on those statements it would be unfair to think that all KD think that way.
All those examples were taken from ZULU Statement thread.
TL;DR:
You only have a limited subset of KY opinions that make it to the forums. 90% is an exagerration.
Recruitment: Both factions do this and I don't see how this is a bad strategy, null argument. (both in terms of getting in to faction and stacking wars, although the stacking isnt caused by direct influence on both sides. It's accomplished through politics)
Main point: you shouldn't extrapolate from what a few kylin members say or what you THINK they say into something that the entire faction endorses. (Much like what Jugg said about your posts not representing KD opinion).0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Look at how fast all those kylin members respond to what i say...
By "recruiting teh whole server" i dont mean into kylin, but guilds as a whole helping kylin. evoke, zulu, mayhem, kort, whoever else.
Did paimage actually say kylin isnt in carebear mode like kingdom? LOL. let me explain an event which recently occured at a world boss. KD is killing a WB, and zulu sees it, they come with about 10 people, next thing ya know 20 Kylin come in with maybe 5 evoke and completely zerg KD.
Again with paimage, "derp derp half our land isnt from 8 minute crystal rushes, therefore we are the best guild for teh server" i nearly sht myself when i read this. 1) all the land either KD or Kylin got prior to kosing each other was easy TWs, so there is 1 point gone. 2) kylin has relied on stacked wars WAY WAY WAY more than KD, dont even argue that cause for the last 3 months we have been getting TW zerged, while kylin complains about the guilds that bid on them that dont even have max refund.
News for you, Kylins tactics have remained the same as well as Kingdoms, so whats the difference? Zulu recruits from KD, while kylin improves their gear in general. We basically gear people up so they can leave KD. Also we usually have about 85 people online for 3 wars which is pathetic for a TW faction. But i dont know how this discussion even turned into a TW discussion.
Kylin loves to prove my point by spam flaming me every time i post, i love it.
First of all, what difference Zulu or Evoke made in the KY vs KD wars? pls explain cuz last week u guys didnt defend zulu but still lost, the week before evoke atked at same time as us but how long the war betweek KD and KY last again? KY has beaten KD in 1v1 situation multiple times therefore u saying those guilds r helping KD lose against KY is going a bit too far, perhaps the fact that zulu which has a few KD members joining em might b a prob for u guys but thats not our fault is it?
Now u say u guys hav been zerged in TW but what do u expect when you guys have most of the lands? ofc most guilds will atk u guys or r u expecting alot of guilds to atk KY for no reason? KY didnt get hald their lands from past kos or r u forgetting that there was a point where KY only had about 6 Territories left and u guys even had 1k streams? Ofc most of your lands r from 8 mins TW but KY is not at the same position anymore.
Its true that KD not having enough ppl for TW is helping KY win most of the wars but KY also had that prob and that was when KD was winning alot of TW against KY.Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »I completely skipped the last page of this thread, soo ye.
Anywho... Taboo, you say you are not taking the whole map, but its quite clear you are. Now, I know you remember. Before Icon quit (nuuu) and gave to Ray, what was in his vision for tw map? It certainly was not domination. I know. But do you? Please tell me.
The worst mistake I ever made was making my sin on HL.
OK **** that. Worst mistake was doing what I did with Era,
o,o so where do you wanted to make your sin? RT?0 -
Lost City. Were my BM is
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Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »Lost City. Were my BM is
LC is a server with so many cash shoppers that I dont even feel like a lvling my char there lol But I dont c y u think u made a mistake by lvling your sin here, cuz HL has a good amount of pk and TWs r fun too. Perhaps the map is making u confused but remember that LC once had all map with one colour :P0 -
Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »LC is a server with so many cash shoppers that I dont even feel like a lvling my char there lol But I dont c y u think u made a mistake by lvling your sin here, cuz HL has a good amount of pk and TWs r fun too. Perhaps the map is making u confused but remember that LC once had all map with one colour :P
2/3 of the people or maybe more on this server are cash shoppers to and usaully heavy cash shoppers b:bye not much dif really0 -
Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »KY ppl never denied the fact they have slightly more ppl with better gear, the only prob is sum KD members always coming up with excuses like "KY won cuz they have ppl with better gear", "We lost cuz KY has better lvls", etc when the guilds were pretty matched. Sucks when u win a war fair and square against sum1 and this person wont acknowledge your win but will come up with excuses instead and thats what KD did most of the time.
While I believe it is a fact that Kylin as a whole is much better geared then Kingdom, I wouldn't use that solely as an excuse to explain Kingdom's recent string of loses. Kylin has been doing a good job of being organized and leveling up, and Kingdom has had its own problems within the guild. All of these factors lead up to Kylin's recent victories. I can recognize the fact that Kylin has really gotten better in the last couple months, and I hope that it will drive Kingdom to do the same. Again, just because a small handful of members (from both sides) will trash talk and make up excuses, does not mean that is the overall attitude of the guild.Limit - Harshlands wrote: »both guilds have indeed recruited people from other factions to help in TW; anyone who argues that is either a really bad troll or just re'tarded. the difference is, now you're feeling what we felt a couple months ago: a lack of attendance/numbers & an obvious lack of strategy since the majority of your members run around like idiots doing god knows what (not trying to say KY is any better, but you can tell that KD isn't the same as they previously were in TW), ijs.
I agree with you that both guild are doing a good job of recruiting new people from the server. There is nothing wrong with that, building up your guild to become stronger shouldn't be used as a form of insult. Kingdom is definitely feeling the pressure and trying to get our stuff together. I have said this in the past, and I still believe it to be true: Kylin has really stepped up their game, while Kingdom fell into a state of relaxation. But believe me when I say that we are working hard to make improvements and learn from our mistakes.Stayne - Harshlands wrote: »First, as is in yours and KD's case as well, most KY members and officers don't bother to post on the forums and don't read the forums. Therefore, you already have a limited subset of KY opinions that make it to the forums.
My point is that you shouldn't extrapolate from what a few kylin members say or what you THINK they say into something that the entire faction endorses.
Thank you for saying this, I agree 100%. I can tell you right now that Michael does not read these forums. He is busy with Kingdom's guild forums and doesn't have time to make official posts here. I would imagine that the same goes for Kylin. I wouldn't want everyone to form their opinion of Kingdom off of what Taboo says, just as I'm sure Kylin wouldn't want the servers opinion of their guild based on one person who liked to talk trash on the forums.
The last thing I wanted to add is this:
Now more then ever, Kingdom and Kylin are very evenly matched in TW. The wars are always very close, and I hope that they stay this way. In my opinion, there is no point to TW if one guild always wins. I'm looking forward to more wars with Kylin and hopefully they will only get better from here.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »EVERYONE GET ON YOUR KNEES, Its Harshlands time of the week to suck Kylins **** again. Thats it, get the tounge involved, dont forget the balls. We are all getting so good at this, i guess what they say is true, practice makes perfect aye?
You mean instead of KD's.
KY needs a little action too, you know. b:kissb:dirty0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Isnt the server getting sick of this by now? Everyone else does the hard work and kylin just steps in and takes credit for it and reaps the benefit.
You, Sir, can KMA.
I have worked hard for my lvl and sht gear without the benefit of oracles or hyper XP stones. And I didn't even own a herc til I was lvl 90.
I'm pretty sure a lot on this server would be amazed at how hard a lot of KY members actually DO work for their gear, lvls AND territories.
Just stop posting, Taboo. You really haven't a clue.0 -
MindCrime - Harshlands wrote: »You mean instead of KD's.
KY needs a little action too, you know. b:kissb:dirtyMindCrime - Harshlands wrote: »You, Sir, can KMA.
I have worked hard for my lvl and sht gear without the benefit of oracles or hyper XP stones. And I didn't even own a herc til I was lvl 90.
I'm pretty sure a lot on this server would be amazed at how hard a lot of KY members actually DO work for their gear, lvls AND territories.
Just stop posting, Taboo. You really haven't a clue.
Shutup. Learn how to use Multi-quote.Wonhalt0 -
Eragon - Harshlands wrote: »Shutup. Learn how to use Multi-quote.
Make me big boy. b:kiss0 -
MindCrime - Harshlands wrote: »Just stop posting, Taboo.
Can I agree with you even though I'm in the same faction as he is?
b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hahahaha, you have no clue.Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »2/3 of the people or maybe more on this server are cash shoppers to and usaully heavy cash shoppers b:bye not much dif really
2/3 of server is below level 80, what kind of heavy cashshop you do at so low level? Bamboo stick +10?
You have no idea how easy it is to farm money and make decent gear without cash shop
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MindCrime - Harshlands wrote: »You, Sir, can KMA.
I have worked hard for my lvl and sht gear without the benefit of oracles or hyper XP stones. And I didn't even own a herc til I was lvl 90.
I'm pretty sure a lot on this server would be amazed at how hard a lot of KY members actually DO work for their gear, lvls AND territories.
Just stop posting, Taboo. You really haven't a clue.
lmfaooo join date: Jan 2010. is it possible to hit 9x in a month without oracles/hyper exp? b:chuckleb:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
StretchIt - Harshlands wrote: »lmfaooo join date: Jan 2010. is it possible to hit 9x in a month without oracles/hyper exp? b:chuckleb:shocked
This date only shows the time you started using the selected avatar on the forums or using the forums with your account.(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.0 -
LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »This date only shows the time you started using the selected avatar on the forums or using the forums with your account.
o i c what you mean dere. b:thanks my mistake.0 -
/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »Hahahaha, you have no clue.
2/3 of server is below level 80, what kind of heavy cashshop you do at so low level? Bamboo stick +10?
You have no idea how easy it is to farm money and make decent gear without cash shop
lol ur kidding? all my gear is non cash shopped im a merch and i know who the oraclers and heavy cash shoppers of this server are dont tell me about not knowing how to make money w/o cash shop i make 10m a day when im tryin maybe more k ty b:pleased0 -
what the **** are you spending that money on ****? if I had 10m a day I had bigdin gear[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Stayne - Harshlands wrote: »TL;DR:
You only have a limited subset of KY opinions that make it to the forums. 90% is an exagerration.
Recruitment: Both factions do this and I don't see how this is a bad strategy, null argument. (both in terms of getting in to faction and stacking wars, although the stacking isnt caused by direct influence on both sides. It's accomplished through politics)
Main point: you shouldn't extrapolate from what a few kylin members say or what you THINK they say into something that the entire faction endorses. (Much like what Jugg said about your posts not representing KD opinion).
Im talking about forum posts, so all the kylin members that post on the forums= 100%, and 90% of those psot the way i mentioned. I cant even name more than 20% of kylin members so i wouldnt say all all of kylin.MindCrime - Harshlands wrote: »You, Sir, can KMA.
I have worked hard for my lvl and sht gear without the benefit of oracles or hyper XP stones. And I didn't even own a herc til I was lvl 90.
I'm pretty sure a lot on this server would be amazed at how hard a lot of KY members actually DO work for their gear, lvls AND territories.
Just stop posting, Taboo. You really haven't a clue.
Look at this lol, i just get through saying kylin likes to make the server feel sorry for them, and you respond with this post, LMAO. crying about how hard you worked, crying about your lack of money for a herc, and crying aboout kylin. Btw, im sick of non factors posting about kylin or kingdom, let the core members discuss like big kids aye? i dont mind reading stuff from stayne or even dark fate. you however like alot of nubs take my posts, prove them for me, then flame me, when you personally are not even mentioned nor am i.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Acrelar - Harshlands wrote: »what the **** are you spending that money on ****? if I had 10m a day I had bigdin gear
secret stuff for da future b:cute0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Look at this lol, i just get through saying kylin likes to make the server feel sorry for them, and you respond with this post, LMAO. crying about how hard you worked, crying about your lack of money for a herc, and crying aboout kylin. Btw, im sick of non factors posting about kylin or kingdom, let the core members discuss like big kids aye? i dont mind reading stuff from stayne or even dark fate. you however like alot of nubs take my posts, prove them for me, then flame me, when you personally are not even mentioned nor am i.
Ok let me c, you think that jus cuz sum ppl arent 100 yet and dont have OP gears their opinions and their thoughts dont matter? lol Since Im a total non-factor in both pvp and pve Im gonna tell u sumthing u dont seem to realize mr KD factor, there is a difference between one shotting ppl and being able to discuss about sumthing while still making good points, but since u think only factors can reply to your posts this will b my last reply to u here on forums.b:bye0 -
Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »secret stuff for da future b:cute
In that case, ill ask ****, he already knows what youve done in the future.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Btw, im sick of non factors posting about kylin or kingdom, let the core members discuss like big kids aye?
LOL.
How do you know if I'm a 'core member' or not? This IS my second HL character, afterall.
What constitutes a 'factor' or 'big kid' in your eyes? A certain level req.? OP gear? An officer title?
I take back my previous remark (Sorry Juggs.): Pls keep posting, Taboo. You are amusing me to no end.b:chuckle0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Look at this lol, i just get through saying kylin likes to make the server feel sorry for them, and you respond with this post, LMAO. crying about how hard you worked, crying about your lack of money for a herc, and crying aboout kylin. Btw, im sick of non factors posting about kylin or kingdom, let the core members discuss like big kids aye? i dont mind reading stuff from stayne or even dark fate. you however like alot of nubs take my posts, prove them for me, then flame me, when you personally are not even mentioned nor am i.
well tabby we cant all have our good old Bum chum ray ray to use faction money to fund our gear i mean come on now one barb is enough riiiiiighhhht?
and i have a question who is considered core member material? cuz i always thought core memebers were the ones that have been in da faction that have been their a long **** time and give a flyin **** about the well being of the faction and tbh tabby mindcrime is one of those people ijs so why dont you go lick rays Chocolate Starfish some more
see ya in TW tabb and i cant wait to see ur next QQWC why we lost excuse
ON a side note may i ask how the HELL did this go from KD rpking to KD QQ about Kylin? seriously its like every thread tabby posts in turns in to QQabout Kylin0
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