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  • VenusFox - Sanctuary
    VenusFox - Sanctuary Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PoopooMai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    since when was milyen a good choice of leader anyways? wonder what he does with all that coins...since apparently people cant even pay for their costs in TW
    Ok if you’ve been in Nef in the past idk hmmm 10 months you’d know there are spreadsheets which show exactly how all the coins are distributed.
    PoopooMai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    most of Nef isnt really nef anyways...Nef died long ago...when Sasaki quit, quite a few 'core' members left/stopped playing/disappeared/went MIA...Falls did a good job and he got tired of it and decided to pretty much stop playing (dont recall if he still plays now...)...then Devalis well...we thought he was the worst but well look at Milyen now...he commands his faction as if he built and brought it up all by himself and you all are there cause you want to leech off HIS guild...well technically its not even his...he leads it...but the guild technically belongs to Sasaki and the initial group that made it
    I’ll admit Nef is not the same as when I joined back in January 2009 but nothing stays the same forever. As for if the changes are for the good or bad ofc some are and some aren’t just depends on your point of view.
    You’re correct Sas was a great leader I miss him as do many of the old time Nef members which still are part of Nef. (Without being logged in I’d say there are 30 or more members still here who were invited by Sas. ) I’d also have to agree with you on Falls. But I will say one thing about Falls, he made a very bad mistake before leaving the guild and that was choosing Devilas as leader. (Even Falls will admit to that, in fact I believe he did on the forum, but dont quote me on that b:surrender ) Tbh Devilas wasn’t all that bad, yes a bit of a tyrant with an ego but until one certain cleric came into the picture imo he did an ok job. In regards to Mily, well ofc he has his own way as did every leader before him. Being the leader of Nef or any large guild, landholder or not is a tough position, especially if you have rl responsibilities like a family and a job.
    PoopooMai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    (YingWiE kinda went inactive...no idea where he went to shortly after he was leader XD...)r
    Yng took a brief rest from the game due to rl issues, but as you can see has since returned im happy to say. I’d like to add, Yng was probably my favorite of all the leaders. He was very pleasant at all times and gave you the feeling your opinions really mattered. I can honestly say I’ve never seen him get really mad. He’s always had a good word no matter what the situation.
    PoopooMai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    oh and...quite a few of the old Nef members that still remain (i only consider those prior to Devalis taking leadership)...aren't exactly cheery or happy about Milyen anyways
    I’m one of those members that were here prior to Dev, my opinion on Mily is he’s a strict leader but he has the better interests of the guild at heart.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yng ran away from me when I tried to pose for a ninja screenshot w/ him b:cry
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ryamika - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But anyone who thinks it's acceptable for those who talk as if they had any role in aquiring those lands is smoking the good stuff.
    thats cause no ones stopping them from doing that. especially not the faction members including the ones that DID have a role.
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  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ryamika - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wrong. Well maybe not completely. I was new to Nef at the time so I think they had the revolving leader position between Falls and Sasaki. Sasaki is the one who actually sent me the faction invite courtesty of Mr. Herne Hunter.

    Regardless, I know Devalis was still Director at that time because I pm'd him regarding forum access. He wasn't the one who handled it, but helped me get it setup. I thought he was a good guy at that time, but obviously he went nuts later and YnG took over.
    yeah your right, sasaky had invited you, its true, he was still there in nef at that time. If am not wrong, falls was banned at that time, and sasaky was bout to leave too.
    YngWiE - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well at the point you joined, Sasaki had gone on leave because of computer trouble, but basically in the end he never returned. Falls used to play Sasaki's account as well which is why the lead shuffled between the two.i had spoken to the real sasaky during this time, and err am sorta sure it was the real sasaky ...

    As for Devalis, everyone has their theories, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that he was a young man influenced heavily by someone else's words haha. He was always a good strategist in terms of planning for TW's and the like. But like most Leaders of Nef, they become Leaders out of necessity and are not necessarily equipped to be a Leader (ie: Falls took over as Sasaki quit, Devalis as Falls, me as Devalis, and Milyen as I quit). Rarely are Leaders who take over given any sort of briefing or training to become the next Leader, and thus the structure of Nefarious and the way things are run are generally due to change as the Leader sees fit.
    Devalis was an **** we all know that, you were or rather are a good person, only thing which i felt bad is that you trusted and supported Devalis and that thing called miriade blind folded. Am pretty sure you have been as good a leader as falls or sasaky was.Correct me if am wrong, but leaders were never choosen in nef, directors were choosen, and they eventually got leadership in due time, Sasaky >>falls>> Devalis>>YngWiE. Up until here, it went fine but after that things did change...... and there is no reason as to why it happened/
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  • YngWiE - Sanctuary
    YngWiE - Sanctuary Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ryamika - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's good to see you playing again YnG

    Thanks :)
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yng ran away from me when I tried to pose for a ninja screenshot w/ him b:cry

    I like being elusive and not well known b:avoid
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yeah your right, sasaky had invited you, its true, he was still there in nef at that time. If am not wrong, falls was banned at that time, and sasaky was bout to leave too.

    Well, for a while I remember Falls used to "pretend" to be Sas (I think it was fears of banned for having multiple accounts or something). But Sas did log on once or twice to update us on his computer issues (generally via forums).
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Devalis was an **** we all know that, you were or rather are a good person, only thing which i felt bad is that you trusted and supported Devalis and that thing called miriade blind folded. Am pretty sure you have been as good a leader as falls or sasaky was.Correct me if am wrong, but leaders were never choosen in nef, directors were choosen, and they eventually got leadership in due time, Sasaky >>falls>> Devalis>>YngWiE. Up until here, it went fine but after that things did change...... and there is no reason as to why it happened/

    Well to be fair to Devalis, at the time I felt he was a capable Leader. I mean sure he had his flaws, we all do, but I had no reason not to trust him until I saw the evidence myself. Directors are generally chosen, but don't always succeed the Leader. I myself only became Director to fill in for Xara, and I became Leader through a nomination/vote process (as did Milyen). But as for Falls and Devalis they were passed the Leadership from the previous Leader.
  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    YngWiE - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, for a while I remember Falls used to "pretend" to be Sas (I think it was fears of banned for having multiple accounts or something). But Sas did log on once or twice to update us on his computer issues (generally via forums).

    ya i was aware of it, but still some stuff which only me and real sasaky knew :P anyways not relevant.

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    Hurts were Bleeding knees. Broken things were only Toys. Goodbyes meant only till tomorrow!

    Life has changed a lot ....

    Hasn't it .. ?? ..b:sad
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I supported Windycharm (SasakiSayuri's girlfriend in her idea to steal leadership from Devalis, her idea was to boot Derpvalis and some other worthless members then randomly assign leadership to someone else. The the plan became to kick everyone from nef on becoming leader and sharing the weekly pay with a group of friends until the territories ran out.

    To be honest the second solution would have made our server sooo dramalicious... ah missed opportunities :(

    PS. @Deceptistar, could you please edit all your posts ever made to a darker text colour, I'm finding it hard to read all 3.7k if your posts :(
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  • Accel - Raging Tide
    Accel - Raging Tide Posts: 673 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WindCharm should have done that b:sad ..and new forums are ugly. b:cry
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  • YngWiE - Sanctuary
    YngWiE - Sanctuary Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I supported Windycharm (SasakiSayuri's girlfriend in her idea to steal leadership from Devalis, her idea was to boot Derpvalis and some other worthless members then randomly assign leadership to someone else. The the plan became to kick everyone from nef on becoming leader and sharing the weekly pay with a group of friends until the territories ran out.

    heh, to be fair this would've only worked if Falls was still the Leader. Devalis never made any promises to return the faction to Sas if he returned.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary wrote: »
    PS. @Deceptistar, could you please edit all your posts ever made to a darker text colour, I'm finding it hard to read all 3.7k if your posts :(
    Blame de forum >.< *bolds the text*
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  • Neflover - Sanctuary
    Neflover - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2010
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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Neflover - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://yfrog.com/jpneflovej

    now THAT was an interesting read lol b:chuckle
  • NonameWiz - Sanctuary
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Neflover - Sanctuary wrote: »
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    Cool story b:dirty
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  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    can someone please tell me why ur in nef again XD?! wtf is that ****
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  • Fenora - Sanctuary
    Fenora - Sanctuary Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    it baffles me why ppl put up with that
  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Fenora - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it baffles me why ppl put up with that

    seriously...is the TW pay REALLY worth being spoken to that way?
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