High Level Cleric

Sheyde - Sanctuary
Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Cleric
I have question for High level cleric, Cause im Lvl 71 now and my Physical defense is horrible, Will this change in higher levels or i will be lvl 100 Cleric and Barb or Blademaster lvl 50 can kill me in two shots. If yes i will switch to Assasin
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    It depends on how much str. you are adding to raise your pdef if you are worried about Bm and Barb I wouldn't.You could use garnets for pdef that will help raise it.
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  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You mean vitality, not strengh. I have 96 Vitality about 246 magic, strengh only if Gear requires more and 5 dex, i mostly put Points to magic. And garnets i have sockets in Armor, but i don't know i should put Psyhical Gems for defense or Citrine for Higher HP
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    @ ur level go with HP
    @80+ what u can find more and cheaper
    @90+ level go full p.def and i can assure u that u wont be a 2 hit kill, since u already have way to much Vit
    b:dirty
  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Pleaase...explain it to me i don't get anything you said...b:surrender
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    you have alot of vit. and am kinda curious as to how you still have too low of pdef if you sharded for it. you might want to try using higher grade shards. and do you refine your gear at all?
  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I switched to new Armor which has 3 Average Hp, leggings boots has average physic also 3, and weapon gives me 200 defense after buff i have 1.2k physical defense and 6k magic, ornaments also gives me physic, i get my gear from AH some of them has refine, but i don't refine cause it requires Refine stones from boutique, because it mostly fails and wastes Mirages and i don't have Credit card, also These stones Cost a lot in Catshop and I'm always low on money. By the way why is my avatar still showing lvl 50 armor and Brown hair?
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    umm if u try to tank them then u may always fail :0
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sheyde - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You mean vitality, not strengh. I have 96 Vitality about 246 magic, strengh only if Gear requires more and 5 dex, i mostly put Points to magic. And garnets i have sockets in Armor, but i don't know i should put Psyhical Gems for defense or Citrine for Higher HP

    No that only raises your hps if you want your pdef raised you want to raise your str as far as I know.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Lusca - Sanctuary
    Lusca - Sanctuary Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No that only raises your hps if you want your pdef raised you want to raise your str as far as I know.

    the amount of p def you get off str is next to nothing -_-
  • IDaun - Dreamweaver
    IDaun - Dreamweaver Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No that only raises your hps if you want your pdef raised you want to raise your str as far as I know.

    Vit raises HP, yes-- but the little bit of pdef and mdef that you get off of str and magic is laughable. Don't tell him to raise his str. It's bad advice.
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  • Camerlengo - Dreamweaver
    Camerlengo - Dreamweaver Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Plume Shell?
    Full power to the Vagiroscope!
  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Some guy told me that good build cleric can even kill a barb in PK, that's my question, because so far every one can kill me, yesterday Archer lv 62 won with me, and i had Plume shell on. So Reset all vitality to 5, get equipment with vitality and all to mag...or delete
    cleric and start all over again on Assasin
  • Gala - Raging Tide
    Gala - Raging Tide Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I think the key to cleric PvP @ lvl 70 is this

    archer: don't let em hit you and hit em as hard as possible.
    veno: sleep pet
    BM jump around and just **** them off; maybe some antistun pots
    wiz: i don't need to explain
    barb: I really don't about this one;
  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Cleric = weakest class
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sheyde - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Cleric = weakest class

    Says u b:chuckle
    b:dirty
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sheyde - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...or i will be lvl 100 Cleric and Barb or Blademaster lvl 50 can kill me in two shots. If yes i will switch to Assasin

    This won't happen at 7x, or 8x, or 9x, or 10x... >.>

    Not unless you just sit there and let them whack you to death...
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sheyde - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Cleric = weakest class

    No Veno with out pet is the weakest class.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    A cleric is given all the skills to take out any other class in the game... The only problem is to use all the skills properly takes alot of skill (alot more then I haveb:surrender). If you really want to pk though I'd recommend you go get an easy pk class like an archer, or if you have alot of money to blow on the game roll a veno and get a nix. Or a sin I hear they're plenty good at pk too. even a fricken psy, or bm, or a wiz (though I wouldn't recommend wiz to you since at low lvls they're alot harder to pk with then a cleric).
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A cleric is given all the skills to take out any other class in the game... The only problem is to use all the skills properly takes alot of skill (alot more then I haveb:surrender). If you really want to pk though I'd recommend you go get an easy pk class like an archer, or if you have alot of money to blow on the game roll a veno and get a nix. Or a sin I hear they're plenty good at pk too. even a fricken psy, or bm, or a wiz (though I wouldn't recommend wiz to you since at low lvls they're alot harder to pk with then a cleric).

    I luv me plume shell..it saves meb:laugh
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I luv me plume shell..it saves meb:laugh

    I love plume shell toob:pleased
  • Ugla - Harshlands
    Ugla - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No that only raises your hps if you want your pdef raised you want to raise your str as far as I know.

    AHHHHH this misconception is driving me mad.

    Do not, I repeat do not add str for the purpose of pdef! Add str to wear your armour and no more! Str says on the description it increases pdef but it is a horribly low amount and not worth it!

    Hope I made that clear.

    Please, OP, work on getting the best Pdef belts possible, capes and hats with +pdef bonuses on them, and then refine your ornaments.
  • Sheyde - Sanctuary
    Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I luv me plume shell..it saves meb:laugh

    Agree, but when im using Plume shell they're like ''Hey not fair you cheated'' What the ....?! I know Healing is cheating even its one of my skills, Im not gonna attack barb with this Physical defense, plume shell if good for this situation. Cry babies, Also i Use Advanced Spark to Resist First attack in Duels, and then attack plume shot, very good against Wizards.

    Ps They also whine about this.
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sheyde - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Agree, but when im using Plume shell they're like ''Hey not fair you cheated'' What the ....?! I know Healing is cheating even its one of my skills, Im not gonna attack barb with this Physical defense, plume shell if good for this situation. Cry babies, Also i Use Advanced Spark to Resist First attack in Duels, and then attack plume shot, very good against Wizards.

    Ps They also whine about this.

    That is sad that they're whining about our plume shell skill. It's like saying that venos shouldnt use purge in duels. Plume shell is a cleric skill, and we clerics have the right to use it.b:thanks
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ugla - Harshlands wrote: »
    AHHHHH this misconception is driving me mad.

    Do not, I repeat do not add str for the purpose of pdef! Add str to wear your armour and no more! Str says on the description it increases pdef but it is a horribly low amount and not worth it!

    Hope I made that clear.

    Please, OP, work on getting the best Pdef belts possible, capes and hats with +pdef bonuses on them, and then refine your ornaments.

    Yeah well it helps for good weapon as well as pdef item rings,necklaces and belts.

    Edit to my post though lvling up vangaurd spirit will raise your p.def.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Sinheartless - Sanctuary
    Sinheartless - Sanctuary Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    "Str says on the description it increases pdef but it is a horribly low amount and not worth it!"


    I have tested it... and for all of you people saying pdef from str is low... go check again. I am far from recomending adding str (i am a fan of vit myself), but to say it gives very little pdef is just false information used to persuade others to add vit. the pdef gained from both vit and str are exactly the same, however, the additional mdef from vit beats the additional patt from str by a long shot. Also, as stated above, vit gives you 10 hp per point as well.
    Also when it comes to garnet over citrine, garnet is the better choice IMO. Hp is nice to have, but if you reduce the ammount of dmg taken... alot hp becomes unessesary. Also being a cleric that sometimes heals another cleric due to stealing agro, the lower amount of hp = less time for me to heal you which = more time i can spend healing tank which = safe squad b:pleased
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  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you're not doing a str based build and generally cap it to arcane equipment str requirement then you're just better off adding to vit instead of raising str to get extra phys defence (as well as HP/Mdef)

    But just to correct the previous post - you will start to get more phys resistance from adding Str than from Vit. You only notice this after you've stacked it to quite a high level- much higher than arcane requirements or even LA requirement though.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I want to point out I tested by using vanguard spirit to raise your p.def and it doesn't so I am correcting myself here.It is the armour that does and items nothing else.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I want to point out I tested by using vanguard spirit to raise your p.def and it doesn't so I am correcting myself here.It is the armour that does and items nothing else.

    I sense some fail in this post.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I sense some fail in this post.

    It is not I am correcting myself as to what I said earlier read it again sherlock.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I want to point out I tested by using vanguard spirit to raise your p.def and it doesn't so I am correcting myself here.It is the armour that does and items nothing else.

    This post here states two things:
    1.) Vanguard spirit does not increase physical defense. A buff that increases physical defense by a percentage of your defense does not increase your defense? What sense does that make?
    2.) Only armour raises physical defense. Nothing else will. Buffs will.

    See the point Im trying to make?
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