Hello Master Clerics

ChainedDust - Heavens Tear

Hmm...thank you all for replying.

Looks like i'll be going with garnet/citrine mix (oohhh...sparkles) Maybe leaning towards garnet more as i level.

Still don't know what I'm going to do with those points.....b:surrender

Yuufa - Heavens Tear

DoomKaiser - Harshlands wrote: »

when it comes to clerics i only see 2 types that i see being a factor. One is Pure VIt which is the cleric that is ment to take a beating while supporting others, Or pure Mag which can be more Practable if u get good enough shards. The extra magic attack makes u very hard to kill and you can hit like a brick. It depends on your play style and you probably should try both untill u figure out what one u like the best.

I dont liek vit builds since our vit to hp ratio sucks something fierce. I would much rather attack something for a ton of damage and determine if i can win from there. If i cant i can chromatic seal and holy path away. Just rememeber each build has its weakness. You need to experience them and do ur best to eliminate them by other means...

Shard choice not build. Citrine shards are raw hp, vit to hp ratio means nothing.

ATM im all Citrine shards, if i ever bother to get lvl 90 or 100, ill probably replace it with defence shards.

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear

Actually I think vit to hp ratio is something to take into consideration.

A barb gets 17 hp per vit.

A bm gets 15 hp per vit

A archer gets 13hp? per vit

A cleric gets 10 hp per vitb:surrender

When I compare my hp gain per vit to my bms I almost weep. 3 vit to equal two for my bm and my bm gets more hp per level.

This is one of the reasons I have not used up my 45 points. My gear at this point in time gives me 500 hp + for my cleric. Which I like. If I were to add the 45 points it would give me an additional 450hp. But compared to what my bm would get 675 for the same amount...ugh.

The damage increase if I add those points into magic is awesome.

Well right now I'm waiting to see how aoe's continue to affect my cleric. If i start to get one shot by them I will see if I can adjust by using shards. If it doesn't cut it...then it might be time to give in to adding vit.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

I started hearing stories of how certain clerics with 9-10k HP all decked with citrine gems and top notch gear....................were squishy as hell lol. As a cleric you will be surprised how much you can survive with 4-10k physical defense.

b:victory

Edit: I am ChainedDust

XFeRX - Harshlands

ChainedDust - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hello to all Clerics!!

I've been researching on clerics for a little while now. And I am looking for even more advice. I've searched the forums for some of my following questions. And unless I necro real old threads I felt this was the best way to ask.

My questions are pretty simple:

Shards in armor - Right now I use a mix if citrine and garnet. I focus on equipment that adds health or physical resistance. And just general good gear. If a few of you could do me a favor and let me know what your opinion is on this subject and why you hold that stance; well, that would be most excellent.

Vit or magic - I have 45 unused points that I've been saving. I am a arcane robe using cleric. I have read many posts saying to add this much vit, etc etc....but as of right now I have not felt the need to add any vit. I have asked faction & friends that play Clerics how they are built and a lot take about 50 base vit.

That pretty much sums up my two questions. If you need any more information from me please let me know.

b:thanks

go full hp shards with pure vit (best PvE build )

you wont get 1shotted in PvP but the damage with hellspark is still enough to kill some1

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

If your not going all out attack and want a more balance build it really wont hurt to put in VIT50. If you want lower VIT youll have to make sure you have the gear to cover up the loss.

As for shards mix is decent. Citrine is only good if you are VS. magic mobs, which, looking at your mag defense, you have alot so you dont have to put in a whopping ton of it. Garnet is good VS physical, which we severely lack.

I personally started off with garnets and went with them all the way, maybe mixing citrine in a cape or shoe sometimes. Reason why i did this was, even if your HP was as high as a BM say 10k HP, if your def is one that of the squishiest class like 2k or so, the opponent will easily carve off a good 3-4k right there. Later on I started hearing stories of how certain clerics with 9-10k HP all decked with citrine gems and top notch gear....................were squishy as hell lol. As a cleric you will be surprised how much you can survive with 4-10k physical defense.

EDIT* I make up my HP from refines

The best way to figure this out is, ironically, to make a wizard. My wizard is between 5-12 vit, str for armor/weap reqs, rest into mag, and yet survives far better than my 90 cleric against painful phys dmg -- buffed, has between 4,000 and 4,500 pdef, opposed to my cleric who, with full buffs, has 1,200 to 1,500. Taught me a valuable lesson. Maybe I won't have stone barrier, but I will certainly be looking out for phys res bonuses, and sharding mostly garnets for 90 gear. Also puts a bit of emphasis on cloudchargers too.

Ewings - Heavens Tear

I would say the choice depends on your budget and how you play.

If u can +10 ur gear by all means go pdef shards on it bbut the point is with whatever funds you have you need to maintain a balance of these two i.e. pdef n hp. and there r only two ways to check em out

1) Sum PWi calc
2)Trial and error - i used this for a long time as it allows you to evolve your build to perform better.

LaTrappe - Lost City

my unbuffed hp is OVER 9000!

I doubt your puny little scouters even register hp that high. GTFO!

BTW I'am serious my unbuffed hp is well OVER 9000!

Ahira - Lost City

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

my unbuffed hp is OVER 9000!

I doubt your puny little scouters even register hp that high. GTFO!

BTW I'am serious my unbuffed hp is well OVER 9000!

liesssssssssss b:faint

LaTrappe - Lost City

Ahira - Lost City wrote: »

liesssssssssss b:faint

I shall squad you and show you! The mighty laTarp shall not be accused of lying on teh Interbutts! E-honor iz srs bizness!

pand0ra

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

my unbuffed hp is OVER 9000!

I doubt your puny little scouters even register hp that high. GTFO!

BTW I'am serious my unbuffed hp is well OVER 9000!

How much P.def ? b:scorn

and how much of your gear is +10 ? b:chuckle

LaTrappe - Lost City

pand0ra wrote: »

How much P.def ? b:scorn

and how much of your gear is +10 ? b:chuckle

Pdef is OVER 8000

how much of my gear is +10? NONE OF YOUR BUISNESS!

EthikaII - Heavens Tear

Soooooooooo....Option A or Option B... with the build 3 vit 1 str 6 mag every 2 lvls.. with starting gear at +2 (+2 for now)and immac shards. @ 90 this is Vit:140, str:49, mag:271.
Citrine... ****only +2 gear****
A.)Unbuffed-Hp:5663
Phy Def:1492
Mag def:7781
Buffed-Hp:5663
Phy Def:2202
Mag Def:10,791

OR.....
Garnets....****only +2 gear****
B.)Unbuffed-Hp:4245
Phy Def:2999
Meg Def:7622
Buffed-Hp:4245
Phy Def:4472
Mag Def:10,632

Which would you go for?
Edit: also is 4 immac garnet still the flame effect or..? *-* lightening efect from 4 citrine immac..

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear

It's not a lightning animation. Its some kind of fire related animation better looking then just the 2 average one.

I believe its posted somewhere on the forums.