Veno or not to veno

/NiKi - Lost City

i tho weapons got max sockets 2 and armor 4 b:puzzled

Zoe - Heavens Tear

/NiKi - Lost City wrote: »

i tho weapons got max sockets 2 and armor 4 b:puzzled

They do, which is why a 4 socket weapon would be worth an insane amount.b:chuckle

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

just so everyone knows the soloable/non soloable bosses in squad mode

1-1 soloable
1-2/1-3 soloable but soulbanisher and drummer will very likey kill you if you dont have a cleric or are heavy armor, due to the physical aoe, and even then bad timing on drummer in 1-3 and herc is a 2 shot, without cleric both these bosses are charm rapers, even with HA

2-1 - wurlord not soloable, feng is, but again charm ****
2-2 - same as above, but feng is worse, ape is not soloable, maybe duoable but still tricky, and you cant get doggy out with only 1 person in squad. astral walker is pretty tricky
2-3 - no feng, wurlord, or ape, no doggy with 1 in squad and astral walker being tricky again, ancient evil needs a pretty full squad

3-1 cant solo 5 minute boss, and cant get to steelation, and im pretty sure you cant get the boss that drops sorcerer's hands without killing the 5 minute boss

that leaves

1-2/1-3 - chin, 007, snake
2-1 - fataquila, ape, dog
2-2 - fataquila, astral
2-3 - fataquila, astral
3-1 - coredash, dark beast, nemen

please feel free to correct me(im sure you will), i wanna get richer

Singsung - Sanctuary

Leneta - Heavens Tear wrote: »

resulting in massive loyalty loss pls note this is just the way things tend to happen perticulerly when the tank or tanks cant aggro properly and the mob or boss switches to the pet wich allmost allways 1 shots them.

You're in TT and your pet suffers no damage penalty. Either turn off it's argo stealing skill or call it off if your pet is stealing argo.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Leolf - Heavens Tear wrote: »

-.- No. Just stating that I HAVE played a veno, and not just "I made one and got bored with it at level 2." However, it is a KNOWN FACT that venos can solo TTs and FBs at a much lower level than other classes, because they're essentially a one woman/man squad. Thus, more money at a lower level>better equips>easier gameplay.

Go level your veno to level 60, than go solo TT, than come back and post how that went and how fast it was and how much money you made.

Just because we are capable of doind something it does not mean it is worth it. I can suicide pet tank polearm with my herc and a second veno, however it is not worth the time nor the insane cost of doing it.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

When I did solo TT runs, like 1-3 squad for example, I got more money grinding in the same amount of time it took me to run the TT on my own.

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

just so everyone knows the soloable/non soloable bosses in squad mode

1-2/1-3 soloable but soulbanisher and drummer will very likey kill you if you dont have a cleric or are heavy armor, due to the physical aoe, and even then bad timing on drummer in 1-3 and herc is a 2 shot, without cleric both these bosses are charm rapers, even with HA
ad

3-1 cant solo 4 minute boss, and cant get to steelation, and im pretty sure you cant get the boss that drops sorcerer's hands without killing the 5 minute boss

please feel free to correct me(im sure you will), i wanna get richer

You can solo the drummer in 1-2 and 1-3 if you have enough -channeling gear, enough hp, and phys defense. b:pleased

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You can solo the drummer in 1-2 and 1-3 if you have enough -channeling gear. Also, You can kill the hands boss without killing the 4 minute boss. [removed exploit information]] b:pleased

Getting banned in the process.b:bye

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Getting banned in the process.b:bye

I don't do that but I was just saying it's possible. What I'd suggest is get a squad to run as a veno then ask if you can have the instance after as the room to the hands room will be open when the bosses respawn. This will save costs on ultimate subs and not illegal.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You can solo the drummer in 1-2 and 1-3 if you have enough -channeling gear. Also, You can kill the hands boss without killing the 4 minute boss. [exploit information] b:pleased

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't do that but I was just saying it's possible.

If you suggesting what I think you are suggesting, than I hope you know it is a bannable offense to do that... I am mean "bye bye character" bannable, not just "take a small vacation" bannable...

Telling someone how to use an exploit is also a bannable offense, even if you do not do it yourself....

Brael - Dreamweaver

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

3-1 cant solo 5 minute boss, and cant get to steelation, and im pretty sure you cant get the boss that drops sorcerer's hands without killing the 5 minute boss

I'm not sure if anyone has done it yet, but Djinscream is theoretically soloable. With a really strong weapon, it seems to be doable at 92 (if sage), and a bit easier in the high 90's. Readily available pet stats are difficult to come by though other than at level 90 so it's tough to work out perfectly. It would require a good number of rare player/pet skills and a strong weapon though regardless.

Starchief - Sanctuary

I just paid 2.2 mil in skills and 200k in repairs b:cry

CandiLuv - Lost City

Leneta - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i dont care wether peaple like this thread its to make a point not to win a popularity contest im just trieng to get a message accross that to discriminate bassed on class is wrong end of and its a fight i will battle to the end

I so agree with you dear!!! Venos dont have it easy. It is tough to get to the upper levels because we are soooo squishy to begin with. Thank god I had found two good friends in the beginning and they got me into a good faction (altho they were pk'rs & I died a ton) But they did help me to get a tad stronger and taught me how to behave in the Boss quests. I died, yea, and died alot....but I learned alot. And our tank, BIGYAYO, is one of the best tanks ever!!! Sic em Yayo.......... albiet, he doesnt come on much anymore and our guild disassembled , too much strife i guesss....... Long live, REDHAWKS, pk'rs from hell..o.

Cenminator - Dreamweaver

Yes venos can make a lot of coin really fast. but its not like that from the start, my herc cost me 30 mil then nix cost 55 when i could finally afford it. "with a lot of time" invested the amount of coin a veno can make is unbelievable.

to answer the 5 minute boss question yes it can be soloed. sage veno use soul degeneration drops max hp by 20% is absolutely necessary to solo it as well as a really good weapon and i think the high channeling rate also helps. have plus 8 lunar wand and my channeling set is -48 chan. its really close but it can be done. my herc has claw to increase dmg instead of bash like most have, that also helps.

can solo 1-2 soul and drum and 1-3 drum, haven't tried soloing 1-3 soul boss but don't think herc could survive it to the end.

SaberArturia - Dreamweaver

It's because of threads such as this that I don't play a Venomancer. As a Blademaster, I get very little grief about taking the "easy way."

Skimi - Dreamweaver

Remove pet skills and your pet won't steal agro from bosses, if will then will get only1 hit and won't die if have good barb. I have no idea how can spend 500k on one tt run. And then you give a list with over refined items, pets etc that worth bunch of cash...others classes wouldn't even be able to afford them without spending rl cash, why exactly you cry? Barbs and clerics always gets 1st pick because they spend more money on run. If veno would tank those bosses then yeah i prolly would let veno have 1st pick as tank.

Brael - Dreamweaver

Cenminator - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes venos can make a lot of coin really fast. but its not like that from the start, my herc cost me 30 mil then nix cost 55 when i could finally afford it. "with a lot of time" invested the amount of coin a veno can make is unbelievable.

to answer the 5 minute boss question yes it can be soloed. sage veno use soul degeneration drops max hp by 20% is absolutely necessary to solo it as well as a really good weapon and i think the high channeling rate also helps. have plus 8 lunar wand and my channeling set is -48 chan. its really close but it can be done. my herc has claw to increase dmg instead of bash like most have, that also helps.

can solo 1-2 soul and drum and 1-3 drum, haven't tried soloing 1-3 soul boss but don't think herc could survive it to the end.

I'm surprised you use a herc for Djinscream. A scorpion with claw would put out a good bit more damage (with bash, icicle, and one more damage skill), and the pet is going to be something like 75% of your damage on that fight. Unless you're using a second herc that's built for damage. You could also probably cut down the refine required with some chi potions. A couple of god's tea's can make a big difference there.

How do you have 48% channeling btw? Some 9% channel items? 6% should max out at 45% (until 99 gold) unless you have some of those channeling stones.

Cenminator - Dreamweaver

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm surprised you use a herc for Djinscream. A scorpion with claw would put out a good bit more damage (with bash, icicle, and one more damage skill), and the pet is going to be something like 75% of your damage on that fight. Unless you're using a second herc that's built for damage. You could also probably cut down the refine required with some chi potions. A couple of god's tea's can make a big difference there.

How do you have 48% channeling btw? Some 9% channel items? 6% should max out at 45% (until 99 gold) unless you have some of those channeling stones.

would have to level the scorpion up, wayyyyy too boring, but good idea.

6%on 2 rings, belt, neck, cape, sleeves 3% on rank 4 chest 6% on weapon plus stone of savant -3. 1100 more socket stones and ill have second stone of savant in it. was halfway to getting the channeling helm from frostcovered before they "fixed" it as well. no more mat drops in there, that one is out.

Saitada - Sanctuary

Veno's don't make more coin than other classes.. honest we don't (hides bags of coin laying all over the place). It's all in your head... much like this cuties voices....



~S

/NiKi - Lost City

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You can solo the drummer in 1-2 and 1-3 if you have enough -channeling gear, enough hp, and phys defense. b:pleased

lvl90 herc gets 2 shotted from drummer in 1-3.
whats ''enough -channeling gear'' for u?
veno dont need alot of hp for it cuz pet is tanking,we are not barbs b:bye
no matter if veno get cleric to bb,still wont be able to tank it.
not sure on what lvl herc can tank it,havent try after 90 and i got -24% channeling b:question

ExELFine - Heavens Tear

<--squishy lev 87 cleric ***tiptoeing thu the thread and wondering silently why she can calmly solo tt 1-1 and soon 1-2 without much ado, but oh so huge repair bills***

b:chuckle