Who Will The Tideborn Replace?
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Kylley - Sanctuary wrote: »Herc is ugly >.> Pheonix looks cool ^^
My bro wants a herc and i almost always team up with him in instances >.>
Me am the type of person to always attack and not hold back so i need a pet that can hold aggro from me. Dont wanna have to hold back with a herc >.>
I dont even have a magmite so >.>
Don't forget that Fire Chickens can't go to Instances. But I am with you there. I want a Bleeding machine for PK purposes.
Barbs are there for tanking.tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
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Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »lol alright w.e u say ahahahahahaha i havnt seen a archer yet that is within 10 lvls of me eigher way that i cant epicly destroy and i dont even have sleep yet. so ill break it down 4 u nice and simple
wizzy
force of will+sutra= dead archer
force of will+ sutra+sleep= pile of dust where a archer once stood talkin smack w a wiz. Is this a duel or PvP?
archer
relies on crits= epic fail ^^ I wish they relied on crits it would make things easier
lack of stuns= dead archer you have never fought a archer have you?
that is all. so how does ur butt feel?b:angry
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lol alright w.e u say ahahahahahaha i havnt seen a archer yet that is within 10 lvls of me eigher way that i cant epicly destroy and i dont even have sleep yet. so ill break it down 4 u nice and simple
wizzy
force of will+sutra= dead archer
force of will+ sutra+sleep= pile of dust where a archer once stood talkin smack w a wiz. Is this a duel or PvP?
archer
relies on crits= epic fail ^^ I wish they relied on crits it would make things easier
lack of stuns= dead archer you have never fought a archer have you? i fite archers every chance i get and i dont consider what you archers call "stuns" to b considered stunsb:beatup
that is all. so how does ur butt feel?
once again epic failSo what if we have bad HP, we're Chuck Norris in the damage department!!!!! b:pleased
If your going into an fb and the Barb screams "LEEROY JENKINS" as he runs into the cave, leave the party. It's only going to get worse from then on.b:shocked
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Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »lol alright w.e u say ahahahahahaha i havnt seen a archer yet that is within 10 lvls of me eigher way that i cant epicly destroy and i dont even have sleep yet. so ill break it down 4 u nice and simple
wizzy
force of will+sutra= dead archer
force of will+ sutra+sleep= pile of dust where a archer once stood talkin smack w a wiz.
archer
relies on crits= epic fail
lack of stuns= dead archer
that is all. so how does ur butt feel?b:angry
This means u need full chi to fight a same lvl ea? btw is just dumb to sutra then sleep
b:surrender
All lies. I mean i do good dmg without crit.. crit is just total **** u know dood?
A lvl 70 ea can prob 1 shoot you with stun arrow alone..
A stun is not a stun? So wrs are garbage to you even tho they have 3 stuns. eas have 1 stun and they dont stun.. so wtf stuns in ur pw version? a nix?PVP: 3800 kills in the name of KD lawl
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Ajani - Harshlands wrote: »This means u need full chi to fight a same lvl ea? btw is just dumb to sutra then sleep
b:surrender that combo is mainly 4 those pesky potters or barbs with insane hp, but 4 you my friend i would only need 2 force of will you then throw gush and bye bye b:bye
All lies. I mean i do good dmg without crit.. crit is just total **** u know dood? 2k does not count as good damage sorry
A lvl 70 ea can prob 1 shoot you with stun arrow alone..
A stun is not a stun? So wrs are garbage to you even tho they have 3 stuns. eas have 1 stun and they dont stun.. so wtf stuns in ur pw version? a nix?
so there total pwnedSo what if we have bad HP, we're Chuck Norris in the damage department!!!!! b:pleased
If your going into an fb and the Barb screams "LEEROY JENKINS" as he runs into the cave, leave the party. It's only going to get worse from then on.b:shocked
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Again is this a duel or PvP? cause that matters alot in duels ofc you would win archers don't have their range in a duel they have about 10 meters on you when they are higher level. The veno pet reaches 34 meters roughly the archers range is 35. You are toast before you know what hit you they have a great attack rate and some super powerful skills.
and no the veno stun is a joke the archer stun is a pain in the **** and will kill you. Comparatively a archer can get 2-3 hits in before you get one spell off. When archers are criting for 5-9k I think your toast dude.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Originally Posted by Ajani - Harshlands View Post
This means u need full chi to fight a same lvl ea? btw is just dumb to sutra then sleep
that combo is mainly 4 those pesky potters or barbs with insane hp, but 4 you my friend i would only need 2 force of will you then throw gush and bye bye
All lies. I mean i do good dmg without crit.. crit is just total **** u know dood? 2k does not count as good damage sorry
A lvl 70 ea can prob 1 shoot you with stun arrow alone..
A stun is not a stun? So wrs are garbage to you even tho they have 3 stuns. eas have 1 stun and they dont stun.. so wtf stuns in ur pw version? a nix?Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »so there total pwned
Lmao so level 70 wizard thinks he can take a level 95 acher? Wow, also in a real fight you will not have time to get full chi, so all your doing is assuming things. Back on the topic, Bms, and Archers will not get replaced they bring alot of things to the table, wizards though lol the new caster will take their spot if anything.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »so there total pwned
You win.. stop killing my brain cells nowb:surrenderPVP: 3800 kills in the name of KD lawl
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duel or pvp wont matter its all depends on who drops in on who, and im assuming the lvls r about the same. and woot i win by forfit!b:victory
caster or not wont matter much if they replace wizards as the highest hitting class when wtf is pw turning it 2? will tideborns b able 2 1hit sword tamer?b:shockedSo what if we have bad HP, we're Chuck Norris in the damage department!!!!! b:pleased
If your going into an fb and the Barb screams "LEEROY JENKINS" as he runs into the cave, leave the party. It's only going to get worse from then on.b:shocked
Nef is all but a memory. Pwi may once again sleep peacefullyb:pleased0 -
This means u need full chi to fight a same lvl ea? btw is just dumb to sutra then sleep
that combo is mainly 4 those pesky potters or barbs with insane hp, but 4 you my friend i would only need 2 force of will you then throw gush and bye bye
All lies. I mean i do good dmg without crit.. crit is just total **** u know dood? 2k does not count as good damage sorry
A lvl 70 ea can prob 1 shoot you with stun arrow alone..
A stun is not a stun? So wrs are garbage to you even tho they have 3 stuns. eas have 1 stun and they dont stun.. so wtf stuns in ur pw version? a nix?Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »so there total pwned
Uh seriously? you know that 2k is alot of damage in pvp for people around the same level. PvP damage is reduced by 75% so those 6-7k hits you might be getting on mobs are probally only 800-1000 on a person.
Sigh again it does matter even at your level unless your fighting completely neutered archers you would be dead in pvp unless you get close enough which you probably won't be able to.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »duel or pvp wont matter its all depends on who drops in on who, and im assuming the lvls r about the same. and woot i win by forfit!b:victory
caster or not wont matter much if they replace wizards as the highest hitting class when wtf is pw turning it 2? will tideborns b able 2 1hit sword tamer?b:shocked
Uh huh i would love to see a wizard 1hit sword tamer. Anyway, like most all of us there is no reasoning with you, oh well, with the way you talk you are probably always face down on the floor, asking "can i get a res?" Anyway. Im done, because I know your full of ****.
Back to topic one last time, Bms have Dots they can stack by themselves, Fire over time, Bleed, and another bleed. Archers Still have sharpen tooth. :P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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None of current classes will be replaced.. If I had to say one, it would be wizards because every class can DD and wizards are most squishy..0
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too many colourstatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
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Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »too many colours
this is the only one i will comment one because the rest is just bull and this comment made my laught lolb:victoryb:laughSo what if we have bad HP, we're Chuck Norris in the damage department!!!!! b:pleased
If your going into an fb and the Barb screams "LEEROY JENKINS" as he runs into the cave, leave the party. It's only going to get worse from then on.b:shocked
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Yes and BMs can cancel things have the ability to use 4 different kinds of weapons fists insanely fast / pole blades long range / Axes aoes / swords great damage. They can reduce the attack of what they are fighting amp the damage stun them if it can be done and it doesn't involve casting spells a BM can probably do it.Kitsuneh - Lost City wrote: »None of current classes will be replaced.. If I had to say one, it would be wizards because every class can DD and wizards are most squishy..
Well because wizards are based on the elements they can get the skills that do the most damage to their foe that can't be replaced as far as magic tanks there is no better class for that then a wizard so yah they can't be replaced.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Atherous - Sanctuary wrote: »this is the only one i will comment one because the rest is just bull and this comment made my laught lolb:victoryb:laugh
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OP doesn't know how to play his class.
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As far as i am concerned (which is delta rb rainbow squads), sin and psy won't be replacing anyone unless they have continues aoe. Barb has the hp so we can't leave him out. Sin could possibily replace bm, but unless the sin is wearing heavy armor and have a **** loads of stuns (which I don't think they'll)... they are pretty much useless in holding aggro. Arch and wiz have phy/mag continues aoe, so they'll be needed. Psy might replace the wiz if their aoe is continues, otherwise they might have a shot at replacing the veno. But that won't be likely cause the veno has a pet... and pets are very useful in keeping aura up by aggroing the eye.0
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I don;t know if they'll immediately encroach on party slots normally taken by the original classes, mainly because they will still be working to get geared and figuring out the most effective builds. If you know how to play your class I don't think it will mean that you automatically are excluded for a Tideborn
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »OP doesn't know how to play his class.
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Hey Sauces b:nosebleed
This is just a "mine is bigger than yours" thread that gets absolutely nowhere since it is on the net and we are not allowed to throw them into a ****-Fight (another word for chicken so get your minds out of the gutter) ring.
http://images-3.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/2427572-2-****-fighting-1.jpgtatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
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Kazue - Heavens Tear wrote: »As far as i am concerned (which is delta rb rainbow squads), sin and psy won't be replacing anyone unless they have continues aoe. Barb has the hp so we can't leave him out. Sin could possibily replace bm, but unless the sin is wearing heavy armor and have a **** loads of stuns (which I don't think they'll)... they are pretty much useless in holding aggro. Arch and wiz have phy/mag continues aoe, so they'll be needed. Psy might replace the wiz if their aoe is continues, otherwise they might have a shot at replacing the veno. But that won't be likely cause the veno has a pet... and pets are very useful in keeping aura up by aggroing the eye.
Ah, the smell of facts...I love it.eatwithspoons wrote: »I don;t know if they'll immediately encroach on party slots normally taken by the original classes, mainly because they will still be working to get geared and figuring out the most effective builds. If you know how to play your class I don't think it will mean that you automatically are excluded.
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and then most importantly, Rebirth isn't so important for this moment, mostly because, the expansion is coming in who knows how long, and because we cannot be sure, will Tideborn be perfectly planned by skills, instances et cetera. b:kiss Psychics seem to have skills that a Rebirth would really have use for, so Psychic might rule Cleric. Because psychic is a slightly debuff based clerizard, with heals and multiple magic attacks. Assassins, they aren't really that good in PvE, I expect they will fight monsters "1 at a time" with stealth, it takes long. And the PvP is where assassins WILL shine.
Assassins don't fit with AoE. But, as a veno I will welcome the assassin with OPEN ARMS! Because Assassins sound like they will be 1 at a time players, with no exeptions, that I am pretty positive of, if Assassins in PWI follow the "Rogue/Assassin/Stealth/Ninja status quo like other stories and games. So Assassins sound like a buddy for the veno to pick beans and kill boss! Will love that. But 8 person squads would be merciful of pwi, spoonie daahling b:flower0 -
eatwithspoons wrote: »I don;t know if they'll immediately encroach on party slots normally taken by the original classes, mainly because they will still be working to get geared and figuring out the most effective builds. If you know how to play your class I don't think it will mean that you automatically are excluded for a Tideborn
Lots of people already have the armor, a stash of TT mats, scarlet fruit, and enough oracles to have a fully geared lvl 90 tideborn the second day they are out.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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SecretYing - Sanctuary wrote: »Firstly I pity the fools.
secondly: Lady Gaga & Britney Spears &Pokerface & Paparazzi & LoveGame & Monster & Dance in the dark & Alejandro & & Just Dance & Bad Romance & Fame & Starstruck & Womanizer & Piece of me & Circus & Everything = FTW b:cute
nooooes me intelligence suddenly dropped a couple of ticks reading that. DX
and then most importantly, Rebirth isn't so important for this moment, mostly because, the expansion is coming in who knows how long, and because we cannot be sure, will Tideborn be perfectly planned by skills, instances et cetera. b:kiss Psychics seem to have skills that a Rebirth would really have use for, so Psychic might rule Cleric.b:shocked BB = party takes 1/2 damage......and heals at the same time O.o' not sure what psychics have that do anything near what BB does. Because psychic is a slightly debuff based clerizard, with heals and multiple magic attacks. Assassins, they aren't really that good in PvE, I expect they will fight monsters "1 at a time" with stealth, it takes long. And the PvP is where assassins WILL shine. XD yep sounds like Assassins are going to be left out of RBs lols
Assassins don't fit with AoE. But, as a veno I will welcome the assassin with OPEN ARMS! Because Assassins sound like they will be 1 at a time players, with no exeptions, that I am pretty positive of, if Assassins in PWI follow the "Rogue/Assassin/Stealth/Ninja status quo like other stories and games. So Assassins sound like a buddy for the veno to pick beans and kill boss!we already has BMs for that....so unless Assassins have some sort of super sprint that can make up for the loss of bonus beans......yar..... Will love that. But 8 person squads would be merciful of pwi, spoonie daahlingdidn't it say somewhere squads will stay 6? xD but would be nice to have an 8 member squad. b:flower
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Its not sure at all what psychics have, I mean leaving Korren out of the math, we only know the 4 skills on the expansion site, 2 for both.
Psychics are debuffing healers, that concept is weird doh b:thanks They sound like they have some "elite" healing skills, but not as convinient and satisfying and oh oh so delicious and sexy cleric heals, but now when leaving Rebirth aside, psychics look like they focus more on debuffs and reflect than heals though b:shy
I ment assassins for picking beans bms are lazy and venos can't afk but they get bored pushing 1 butt-on b:bored
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I havent read any of the posts btw...
Archers and BMs are always great at TW, but BMs are more important.
In pve, I would say archers because of their great DDing (Shin...... :P)
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Lots of people already have the armor, a stash of TT mats, scarlet fruit, and enough oracles to have a fully geared lvl 90 tideborn the second day they are out.
Looks at his stacks of 20 beast armor and several mule full of oracle fruits... hmmmm... sell or not to sell... that is the question.0 -
If which ever tideborn assasin or psychic, has an aoe dmg like wizzy or archer, then thats probably gonna be replacing the 2.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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