wiz heal pls. >____> WTF??

Kristoph - Lost City

Lol at this thread... ofcourse clerics are better healers, who cares? Who doesn't know this? Doesn't mean we can't keep a tank up by ourselves against a lot of bosses.

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Lol at this thread... ofcourse clerics are better healers, who cares? Who doesn't know this? Doesn't mean we can't keep a tank up by ourselves against a lot of bosses.

i agree lol

and seems like there is many that doesnt know that

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

how many heals are u able to cast on sutra btw?

Haiz - Lost City

Cleric fell off in heaven 99fb the other day. We said **** waiting and I healed while the cleric caught up.

Clerics can heal better, but when they are down or away we can do it temporarily.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

O course cleric is better healer. It is his role in this game. No doubt. But smaller and easier quests, we can heal without cleric and that's good. Because no always is cleric easily available.

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

how many heals are u able to cast on sutra btw?

5-6b:bye '

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »

5-6b:bye '

This is not true. Sorry.
Morning Dew
Range 20.4meters
Mana 180.0
Channel 4.5 seconds
Cast 1.2 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds

Just theoretically you can do 5 times never 6. Practically you can do max 4. Maybe if you very, very lucky 5.

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This is not true. Sorry.
Morning Dew
Range 20.4meters
Mana 180.0
Channel 4.5 seconds
Cast 1.2 seconds
Cooldown 1.0 seconds

Just theoretically you can do 5 times never 6. Practically you can do max 4. Maybe if you very, very lucky 5.

maybe not 6 i just assumed cuz im not on the game atm and dont renmber the cast time but 5 is deffently

if cast time is 1.2 and cd is 1.0 u will be able to cast 5 times in 6 seconds

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »

maybe not 6 i just assumed cuz im not on the game atm and dont renmber the cast time but 5 is deffently

if cast time is 1.2 and cd is 1.0 u will be able to cast 5 times in 6 seconds

And what about lag? And you would had to have extremely good timing with 0 lag.
Also sutra has very small channeling time is not 0 channeling so changeling is not immediately.
So I changed my mind. You cannot even theoretically 5 time max. is 4.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

I've never managed to do over 4 heals.

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And what about lag? And you would had to have extremely good timing with 0 lag.
Also sutra has very small channeling time is not 0 channeling so changeling is not immediately.
So I changed my mind. You cannot even theoretically 5 time max. is 4.

fine then 4 sheesh im not a healing wiz

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »

fine then 4 sheesh im not a healing wiz

Yep that's better. I did 4 too. But normal for me is 3, sometimes 4.b:victory

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

well, u can outta heal me b:cry

but with not so big difference - I can cast 2 Streams of R in 7-8s - and u will still win but like by 10% i guesse :P (didnt counted that too attentively btw*)


LA wizzes wont have much chances tho

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well, u can outta heal me b:cry

but with not so big difference - I can cast 2 Streams of R in 7-8s - and u will still win but like by 10% i guesse :P (didnt counted that too attentively btw*)


LA wizzes wont have much chances tho

Amount of healing depends on ours magic damage.

Sage Morning Dew
Recovers target's HP by 1350 points plus 40% of
base magic damage. Has a 10% chance to fully heal the target.

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well, u can outta heal me b:cry

but with not so big difference - I can cast 2 Streams of R in 7-8s - and u will still win but like by 10% i guesse :P (didnt counted that too attentively btw*)


LA wizzes wont have much chances tho

once again wiz are best for emergncy healing not real healing like clerics do

we can save the day wtih sutra healing if somehow the tank hp drop to 20% or so

if fighting a tough boss and there isnt cleric on the squad its pretty much over in less there is like 3 wiz healing lol

and also our heal is easlly inturpt since it take so long to cast without sutra

gn b:bye

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Yep. I was lot of time interrupted when channeling healing. That's the biggest problem. Especially when they needed. We are nor reliable healers. Just emergency healers. Also that is not our role to heal.b:thanks

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

SurferGirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »

and also our heal is easlly inturpt since it take so long to cast without sutra

gn b:bye

I've never had trouble with interruptions. I mean... no barb ever died because of it^^

GN

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've never had trouble with interruptions. I mean... no barb ever died because of it^^

GN

1 time I was interupted 3x times in row, when we were fighting against polearm and I was support healer. All party was wipe out.b:angry

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

1 time I was interupted 3x times in row, when we were fighting against polearm and I was support healer. All party was wipe out.b:angry

Wow! How on earth did that happen? Pole only launches special attacks like every 10 seconds-ish (I can cram 4 Irons comfortably between each and still have enough time to prepare to Chromatic/Purify...assuming he isn't canceled first). Morning Dew 'only' takes around 5.7 seconds total to go off...I think (Disregarding any sort of channeling gear it takes 4.5 seconds to channel, 1.2 seconds to cast right? Too lazy to check right this second...).

On top of that, the only time he should have been hitting you would be with the Magic AoE... b:shocked

Aadi - Lost City

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wow! How on earth did that happen? Pole only launches special attacks like every 10 seconds-ish (I can cram 4 Irons comfortably between each and still have enough time to prepare to Chromatic/Purify...assuming he isn't canceled first). Morning Dew 'only' takes around 5.7 seconds total to go off...I think (Disregarding any sort of channeling gear it takes 4.5 seconds to channel, 1.2 seconds to cast right? Too lazy to check right this second...).

On top of that, the only time he should have been hitting you would be with the Magic AoE... b:shocked

Maybe lag, so they couldn't start the heal in time?

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wow! How on earth did that happen? Pole only launches special attacks like every 10 seconds-ish (I can cram 4 Irons comfortably between each and still have enough time to prepare to Chromatic/Purify...assuming he isn't canceled first). Morning Dew 'only' takes around 5.7 seconds total to go off...I think (Disregarding any sort of channeling gear it takes 4.5 seconds to channel, 1.2 seconds to cast right? Too lazy to check right this second...).

On top of that, the only time he should have been hitting you would be with the Magic AoE... b:shocked

Yep. He didn't hit me. Just channeling was interrupted. Sometimes I don't get how game works. But I happened just 1 time in all playing life in healing. Sometimes interrupt me 3x in row, but with channeling normal spells=almost death.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

sometimes lag leads you to self interrupt. it's absurd but happens.

Kristoph - Lost City

Uh I've solo healed for 3-3 bosses like the emperor, it can be done quite easily if they have a charm to cover up the bad timings or spike damage etc. Just need to make sure your tank isn't worthless.


And you should never get interrupted while healing... if you do you're doing something wrong. Distance Shrink is perfect for repositioning yourself, you can almost always get out of a boss' aoe range.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Amount of healing depends on ours magic damage.

Sage Morning Dew
Recovers target's HP by 1350 points plus 40% of
base magic damage. Has a 10% chance to fully heal the target.

im actually talking bout numbers

SoR 1230 hp +50% base mag + 1230hp
sage/demon 1800 +60% base mag +1800

can cast 2 like in 8s, so just count

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver

Wanna get a feel for how strong Sutra heals are? Use Blessing of the Purehearted on a high HP toon after their HP drops a bit. Then imagine casting that 4 times in 6 seconds. That's the closest spell a Cleric has to a Morning Dew (Before Level 11 Augmentation).

TheUnjudged - Heavens Tear_1274701008

Draeyos - Lost City wrote: »

ppl keep telling me to heal cuz they are to dam lazy to find a cleric in BHs b:angry.


how often do you get asked to heal? I didn't roll a wiz to be a half-**** healer, i came to aspode faces off.

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

Fact: it's possible to do FB59 without cleric.

Tank (uncharmed, lvl 82 barb) didn't have to use single HP pot, healer (low 70s uncharmed wizard) didn't use single MP pot. I wonder how many pots cleric would have to waste b:pleased


Morning Dew

Omgah you all dissing us clerics!b:cry

TheUnjudged - Heavens Tear_1274701008

You all are Dissing Purehearted Clerics!b:cryb:cryb:cryb:cryb

Ophelius - Dreamweaver

Oh, quit whining. XD If we're healing, we aren't doing what we're supposed to do. We should be the ones whining! b:victory

Anyway, a heal is a heal. No one should complain lol. We're just debating on how effective we are as secondary healers.