Barb asking for free Charm for RB

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you sentences need fixed T.T

    Me sentences be like that on purpose. b:thanks
    also mayhaps you should fix your sentences first.
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  • Nastassiya - Sanctuary
    Nastassiya - Sanctuary Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you sentences need fixed T.T

    My MagicHamsta is doing just fine...

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Nastassiya - Sanctuary wrote: »

    My MagicHamsta is doing just fine...

    *pets her MagicHamsta on the head*

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  • ewingoil
    ewingoil Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ....wtf thats the same as a cleric asking for a mp charm -.-

    I was going to say that anyway using charms is an option.
  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It depends how the barb asks for it.
    1. Barb: I wanna rb, someone give me a charm b/c I don't wanna pay for one.

    2.You: Hey, we really need a barb for rb, can you come?
    Barb: I'm kinda broke atm, sorry.But if someone could give me a charm, I'd love to help you out.

    Barb 1 gets a blacklist smacked across his greedy face. Barb 2 may get a charm, if we all want to go and no one else is availible.
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  • Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear
    Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Here's something I do, it might help u as well. When they offer to help for a fee, suggest that they can have all drops in "ur Dungeon". All Frontline that have gone w/ me, have accepted that. I try to help, but all drops r there's. When u get to that level where u r the escort, suggest this method instead of "Gimme a charm or Money"!
  • ewingoil
    ewingoil Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Here's something I do, it might help u as well. When they offer to help for a fee, suggest that they can have all drops in "ur Dungeon". All Frontline that have gone w/ me, have accepted that. I try to help, but all drops r there's. When u get to that level where u r the escort, suggest this method instead of "Gimme a charm or Money"!

    What about all the other classes and who uses up their mp for BB?
  • Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear
    Bai_Qi - Heavens Tear Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I understand ur question, but I have never played as a medic, mage, or archer. So to answer ur question, I'm sorry I don't know. But from what I've done up to 30, is if another helps me, I give them all drops on wherever I am. If I have extra mana potions, which I usually do, I will drop a few for them if needed.
  • Jiblet - Sanctuary
    Jiblet - Sanctuary Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lolz, if a barb asks for payment for rb, then tell them where to get off. I've given charms to barbs for delta, but only because they are people that i run regularly with and they needed a charm short term (as in awaiting a zhen transfer etc). In pretty much every case I've had the charm back within 24hours.

    Helping out a regular squadmate is one thing, paying some muppet so that they can gain exp/drops is another...
  • Damewort - Sanctuary
    Damewort - Sanctuary Posts: 573 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I would give some money to barb for charm only if I know him, know his skills... and he just happened to be broke at that time. Every class has costs in runs, some has bigger, some has smaller. True, barb and cleric costs are bigger, but they often gain things for free in runs too. I recently talked with cleric who told that he has gotten a huge amount of mp food from instance runs. He even have enough to use them after runs.

    Herc venos can start to beg for mp pots/food, pet food and repairs too, because "We are saving your repairs and charms, but it is really costly! *cries a river* Do you know how much it costed to get the herc, just so you could lazly lay back? QQ"
  • VILKASS - Sanctuary
    VILKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    =.= Lately I see lots of ppl wcing to give out free charms for gama barbs =.= Never heard a single barb asking (had a few archers though...); never asked myself (QQing doesn't count b:surrender); but was given a few times just out of ppl's kindness for a good run.
    Depending on what rebirth and what kind of extra support from BM the barb is doing/getting.
    That's why I don't do random squads anymore... gamma I could handle... delta... b:embarrass
    Barbs lose money in gamma. We have no compensation for our HP charms being burned, just like the archer has no compensation for their MP charms/arrows. But, archers get the opportunity to have MP 2-3 to help them.
    Most squads don't bother giving them mana 2-3.

    Anyway...
    Average hp charm usage: 50k QQ unless somebody messes up really bad, but I know it's much more for most barbs; though friend of mine repeatedly done gamma with no charm ticks at all =.=

    Repairs: um... I really cant remember now... maybe about 300k, I never bothered to count

    cleric costs are bigger
    o.o I have a cleric too... done both gamma & delta... In my opinion cleric costs are THE LEAST in rbs. If it's non-rainbow squad so no mp at 1st, then all squad members lose pots & it evens out, if there is mp aura 1, then mostly only archer has mp expense.
    *Wizes get hit more thus more charm ****.
    *Archers - mp/hp charms
    *Bms - um... depends... most I've went to in gama were charmless & it worked fine.
    *Venos - =.= um ok you got me there, though most get **** in delta pulling bosses if they don't know how to do it correctly.
    That's if they come charmed =.= some go uncharmed & it works for em. I can't pull off a charmless run yet QQ
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Is that really normal ? Some said people consider it normal to donate a charm to a barb, but I'm not rich enough to do so, let alone give it to a complete stranger who will probably just do ONE run with me.. When I read a barb asking for one I found it despicable b:shutup I wouldn't dare asking such a thing. And he claimed it was worth the "investment" Yeah , I would love to pay for the rest of the charm you will use outside RB's b:beatenup Oh wait, you don't have coins for your skills ? Here are some. Oh, you need TT gear, sure I'll buy it. Want my creditcardnumber with that ?
    You musnt forget that the reason the Barb has been asking for a charm for RB is because pple just want to lvl up the fast and easier way, thus pampering some classes such as these. The barb is not the only one at fault and greedy here. You may not be giving and pampering directing but you are also contributing to the current RB fad.
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  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lol Barbs can suck it for all i care. Any proper barb knows regulate charm loss while doing RB. Also, it depends on the party too. A terrible party can result in the barb losing a very large amount of charm
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If a barb ever - EVER - asks me for a charm, then I consider the following:

    a) is he a friend of mine?
    b) does he fail at his class?

    If the answer to A is yes, then the answer to B will be no. Guy can have a charm - for cheap. I sell things cheaply to my friends, very cheaply, but very rarely do I give anything away truly for free.

    If the answer to A is no, and the answer to B is no, then I might consider selling one to the guy.

    If the answer to A is no and the answer to B is yes, then unless he's giving me an MP charm in return, he can stick it where the sun don't shine.

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  • Enzio - Heavens Tear
    Enzio - Heavens Tear Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I do switch with Clerics, I give MP for HP.
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  • Matrix_ - Dreamweaver
    Matrix_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    A good tank does not require a charm. A charm is great every once in awhile, but I find that Life Powder and its higher level versions are much more effective. All a good tank needs is really just a good cleric to bring you back up to 100% when you run low. If your tank requires a charm, he's either greedy, has no faith in the cleric, or seriously ****ed up his stats. If any of those 3 are true, hes not worth having in, and is a danger to your squad and should be kicked immediately
  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Matrix_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A good tank does not require a charm. A charm is great every once in awhile, but I find that Life Powder and its higher level versions are much more effective. All a good tank needs is really just a good cleric to bring you back up to 100% when you run low. If your tank requires a charm, he's either greedy, has no faith in the cleric, or seriously ****ed up his stats. If any of those 3 are true, hes not worth having in, and is a danger to your squad and should be kicked immediately

    wrong. some bosses DO require a charm. especially bosses that random agro one hit clerics.


    and again. barbs do NOT need charms for RB, ive done a complete rb delta with no charm. its not very hard.
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • VILKASS - Sanctuary
    VILKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    wrong. some bosses DO require a charm. especially bosses that random agro one hit clerics.


    and again. barbs do NOT need charms for RB, ive done a complete rb delta with no charm. its not very hard.

    =.= Teach me oh great master b:cry b:surrender
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  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    barbs need charms for RB? this is news to me o_O i can do a complete rb delta without a charm...

    b:surrender Oddly enough, i'll have to agree with Sticky... I may only tick 1 or 2 times at last boss, but thats it...

    Free charm for barb? wtf?! Is he soloing the waves? b:laugh
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  • DrunkWizard - Lost City
    DrunkWizard - Lost City Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    instead give a charm to da aoers like da wizards lol




    b:surrender nah jk but still at those lvs getting money for a charm sure is easy
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  • Darcwolf - Lost City
    Darcwolf - Lost City Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Personally I dont think the barb should be asking to join without a charm, if they are there to help you and you asked though its not too unreasonable for them to ask.

    I just think its funny all the people here who have NEVER played a barb yet seem to think you understand the cost of one.

    If you dont get through a full rebirth barb loses LOTS of money, repair bill for one is hideous, my last rebirth I was looking at 500k repair alone. And what do I get in the end? Tome fragments that aren't worth **** anymore. And MAYBE if your lucky some shards.

    But yea, I do agree in general, unless you invited him along and he didn't really want to do rebirth and you just needed a tank I think the barb needs to pay for their own charm.
  • Minimus - Sanctuary
    Minimus - Sanctuary Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Advice --> Beware of RANDOM parties with ppl you do not know!

    Random parties are more interesting. You may have a nice talk with new people who also do the quest dfferently than the parties before.

    * * *

    Never gave a kitty a free charm if he asked me to. Rather give one for free if he doesn't ask (or some other compensation).     b:cute
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Is that really normal ? Some said people consider it normal to donate a charm to a barb, but I'm not rich enough to do so, let alone give it to a complete stranger who will probably just do ONE run with me.. When I read a barb asking for one I found it despicable b:shutup I wouldn't dare asking such a thing. And he claimed it was worth the "investment" Yeah , I would love to pay for the rest of the charm you will use outside RB's b:beatenup Oh wait, you don't have coins for your skills ? Here are some. Oh, you need TT gear, sure I'll buy it. Want my creditcardnumber with that ?

    A barb with decent hp don't even need charm for rebirth <.<

    But yeah i refuse to go rebirth to unless party helps pay my mp charms, otherwise i just loose to much money completing RB. If they want lvl 11 barrage on the mobs they better fking help paying for it. I guess its same for some barbs with crappy hp, it costs them 1 gold charm or so to do full run which is more money than you actually gain from completing wave 10.

    Rebirth just costs loads of money to do for certain classes, while other classes does it for free - like clerics and venos. So its kinda fair that the "cheaper classes" help the more costly classes and donates some coins. And as a barb or high lvl DD you are always in the position to say no to RB if people don't wanna share the costs, since its easy to find parties.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'd consider help paying for charm cost if the run is successful. But not prior, I'm not gonna help pay for a charm that goes into a fail run and then the person runs off with it.
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  • Kazue - Heavens Tear
    Kazue - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Darcwolf - Lost City wrote: »
    Personally I dont think the barb should be asking to join without a charm, if they are there to help you and you asked though its not too unreasonable for them to ask.

    I just think its funny all the people here who have NEVER played a barb yet seem to think you understand the cost of one.

    If you dont get through a full rebirth barb loses LOTS of money, repair bill for one is hideous, my last rebirth I was looking at 500k repair alone. And what do I get in the end? Tome fragments that aren't worth **** anymore. And MAYBE if your lucky some shards.

    But yea, I do agree in general, unless you invited him along and he didn't really want to do rebirth and you just needed a tank I think the barb needs to pay for their own charm.

    500k repair? for just 1 rb? wow... you must be a really ****ty barb or just have a **** party. an average rb barb repair should cost around 200-250k (300k at the most) for a full run.
  • Singsung - Sanctuary
    Singsung - Sanctuary Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kazue - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    500k repair? for just 1 rb? wow... you must be a really ****ty barb or just have a **** party. an average rb barb repair should cost around 200-250k (300k at the most) for a full run.

    Wouldn't that mean he's a great barb? He's taking all the argo so his repair bill is higher.

    Personally, I think a lot of barbs really need to learn how to do Gamma while conserving their HP charm. My barb has just about 10k life fully buffed and only ticked twice for a complete run during his last gamma run without any HP pots. That's only possible if you have a competent cleric who can actually survive last boss's aoe while healing you. I did many gamma runs where I was forced to tank the last boss alone on charm.

    The trick is to stay within the BB range while holding good argo.
  • Shintera - Sanctuary
    Shintera - Sanctuary Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow, a barb getting a charm!? Ive never got a charm lol

    Personally, don't supply the clerics and barbs charms. Barbs and Clerics can get that themselves. Its RB anyways, you don't have to do it. (Besides the 90+ quests for it)

    Its bad enough that some Barbs and Clerics are QQing for charms, pots, etc. etc.

    lol, i like this post. i do run into clerics and barbs who complaign about charms and mp. heck i used to complain about mp myself but i've learned about something called apothicary lol. if a cleric says he uses to much mp in TT just tell him to get a concentration orb for bosses it's like my own personal crack for any non AoE lol. focus powders are decent for it you use 1-2 pots per boss and 1-2 powders vs like 60+ pots or a complete total charm ****. barbs hp charms in gamma are costy yes and so are their repairs but hey you get coin and a ton of exp from it plus possible immac shards so get used to it. you are the bigest tank in the game if you think ur not gonna take hits or tick large amounts off ur charm when it does tick then your in for a rude awakening. clerics yes our mp is a pain sometimes but if you learn how to do it right it becomes a much much smaller price. I personally don't use mp charms at all and 1 concentration orb is 10 minutes of perma healing withought a single pot (so long as the boss don't use AoE) and in BB just use a sesame every so often or herb yuanxio's their cheaper then pots and much more steady to uphold BB/RB. but asking for a char for gamma. i mean seriously if your just using for gamma get a silver hp their pretty common atm and if you got a decent to good squad it'll be more then enough for 1 gamma. in which you can get with just alittle grinding of dq mats or sell some mats for a day and boom a silver charm for gamma, problem solved.

    ps: sry for so much text

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