Lack of New Players?
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there are several ways to get new players to come. like some serious marketing since pwe makes a ton of cash with cash shop by now. also making a new server or changing pk levels and xp/drop curve for <60 would help.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The current bugs, especially the rubber-band/glitcher-back bug, could also be putting some new players off.Non-mule characters:
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King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »there are several ways to get new players to come. like some serious marketing since pwe makes a ton of cash with cash shop by now. also making a new server or changing pk levels and xp/drop curve for <60 would help.
I really don't understand why people on PVP servers complain about being pked. They were the ones who picked to play on a PVP server. If they dont like being killed at lvl 30, they should change servers.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Is this recently or has it been happening for a while? If it is recently, than many new players (like me) clicked the add saw the site, though the game was totally awesome, (specially cuz of the flying,) and saw the NEW RACE add. They are probably waiting for the class to come out.
This is what I am doing anyway, i have alsways played an assasin and cant wait for the class to come out, as of now i am just experimenting with different classes to learn the game.0 -
Is this recently or has it been happening for a while? If it is recently, than many new players (like me) clicked the add saw the site, though the game was totally awesome, (specially cuz of the flying,) and saw the NEW RACE add. They are probably waiting for the class to come out.
This is what I am doing anyway, i have alsways played an assasin and cant wait for the class to come out, as of now i am just experimenting with different classes to learn the game.
we had a lil mess up economy time lately, so it could be harder to invite friends into PW...
btw there is nothing that wont let u play freely and still have good time b:victory
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Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »Another QQ thread.
Its common logic that there wont be as many new players incoming as there where 1 year ago when the game was new.
More than that, new games are on the market and most people like to check them out. I see all the time ppl that leave the game and come back.
To sum it up. This is one of the best F2P games out there. If you want to have fun and PvE with your friends you DONT have to spend a cent.
If you are the competitive type, you want to be a factor in pvp, and you need to enlarge your e-peeen WTF DO YOU EXPECT?! Its a fckn company and needs money to run the game.
QQ moar about aniv packs? They fckn payed for the incoming expansion.
You like this game? Try what you can to make it better, QQing didnt help anyone achieve anything.
Regards.
Anni packs werent really even discussed in this thread until you made it a focal point. GJ.
This expansion was already created and worked on a long time ago, before anni packs came around. Anni packs were coded into the original game development, I remember staring at them when I was a noob at the NPC.
The thing is this: Adding new content to cover up the dusty flaws that annoy the **** out of everyone is doing nothing but pulling a veil over everyone's eyes. And it isnt going to work very well.
70% of the people who are going to play the new classes are the same people who play PWI already. This isnt really going to pull in fresh meat, and to be quite honest, the way they are drumming up the expansion in the publicity and gaming community, I hope it wont be a big let down. They are kinda stretching it thin, I mean, we had several people leak all the information before the expansion site went live. How pathetic is that?
IMO, the company needs to step it up. They need to be on top of things. Publicity needs to be consistent and on a time frame. Things need to be taken care of, they should have a development team that focuses solely on fixing the current bugs of the game, and a separate team that focuses on fixing the bugs of the patches/expansions. I dont really know what the hell they are doing between 9-5 during the workday, but it sure doesnt seem like they are doing much of anything.
Do not tell me money is an issue, has anyone looked at PWI's profits in the last quarter of their fiscal year? They can afford to hire more Devs to fix bugs, or more GM's to moderate in-game. They choose not too, because the company's higher ups are greedy and stuffing their pockets with the cash they are raking in. They have now 4 games that bring in massive cash, they can afford to focus a little more on the original game that brought them their financial success: Perfect World.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
PWI is killing this game
i go a few friends of mine into playing this game ,
altho now i wouldn't tell em to come here anymore ...
PWI showed us more then enough that if you don't spend like 200 $ every (week-month) your choise you're not gonna be able to run with the big guys anymore
this game is boring at 80+ if u can't pk/TW there's not alot of fun in it ,
i told this before and i'll tell it again the game is killing it for ppl that don't spend 200$ or more every week or month ,
u can kinda notice it already on HT server prolly on other servers too
right now about 1k ppl are lvl 100 or + so
guilds are getting filled with lvl 100s
soooooo guilds don't look at lvl anymore they start looking at your crazy gear if u have it or not
so in couple of months => u don't pay 200$ per week or month ? => no fun for you after lvl ~80 +
gratz pwi
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Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »To sum it up. This is one of the best F2P games out there.
Hahaha uh........no b:laugh
Seriously, lolz. It WAS the best F2P mmo out there. Try out a few other games. It's only a matter of time before the competition produces something vastly superior to pwi, and everyone moves on leaving you alone here still pretending everything is great.
A stable and easily afforable economy was what made pwi an amazing mmo, kept new players playing and attracted players from other mmo's in droves. No other f2p mmo really had a stable economy and cared for it's players as much as pw.
Now pwi is just like the rest. It's a purely average game now, with very little special about it.
I did a BH39 earlier today, turned out every single member of our squad was an alt. I see 10-20 quit every day and every week about 1 or 2 actually joining and staying.0 -
Kaenor - Heavens Tear wrote: »Simple question: if a newbie asking you to show something or help with mobs, you go there? (busy with bh-TT-rb-whatever you want to find to avoid them)
Um...that's what factions are for. We help each other out, even if they've taken a long vacation due to RL or whatever. We do boss runs, we help with BHs, we do because others did before us.
Maybe there aren't as many new players, but that's fine. I'd rather have the players that come to the game that are willing to put in time, play for more than a month, and come to like the game as well as their fellow players.
The new expansion is going to make things quite exciting for those of us that have stuck around but it's not the only part of the game that make the game worth playing. Mostly it's the people in the faction and the quiet competition that goes on there that make PWI a fun place for me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »That,s the way most free-to-play games go. They last a couple of years and slowly fade away. The game was new for many players a year ago, but since then, the majority of the players who started in the first few weeks the server opened left the game. There are a lot of possible reasons.
1 - new games opened since then (either run by PWI or other companies). The more options players are offered, the more likely the player base will spread out over more games, unless on game is far much better that the competitors. PWI was for a time, but is not anymore (see point 3)
2 - the economy of the game is totally scrapped. This pushed away some older players and is a big deterrent for new players. For exemple, I went back to a game I played 2 years ago, and the economy there is pretty much identical to when I left, so new players starting there are in the same position as older players were when they started.
3 - bad game management, form either PWI (anniversary pack back by popular demand) or the company making the game in China (bugs not fixed after years they are discovered, new patches that bring more bugs into the game weeks after weeks).
4 - very repetitive gameplay. Some game have repetitive gameplay, but are still interresting in a way or the other. PWI is not. It's always the same "kill XX mobs" and/or spam the same skills over and over again.
And like someone said before. A lot of players who left the game for a reason or the other are not going to recommend this game to their friends.
The new content announced will probably bring back a few older players who left, but it will not last long. It will not fix the main reasons why players are leaving or are not starting playing this game.Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »Ive noticed it myself on Sanctuary, even rerolled on LC. Ive been playing PWI for awhile, about 11 months roughly. This is a second character that has become my main (main is long gone, was 95 cleric). I notice now, as I do my quests, and form gamma squads and bh squads, there are less and less of new players, everyone seems to be an alt of someone who has a high level character. No kidding, I have been really surprised.
It seems the only strong player base PWI has now is really the people that started the game from its beginning or shortly thereafter. People now just turn away from it, and word of mouth is spreading that things arent going very well.
I made an archer on LC. Starting grounds were like a graveyard, and the area around it was worse. Starter cities have been empty constantly.
But GM's and Dev's wouldnt know these things, because the exp'd players are pouring money into their pockets and they dont really see game activity, they only see monetary activity.
Ah well.
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Foxx - Heavens Tear wrote: »
The trouble for Pwi is that people aren't going to spend money on a dying game.
^ this ^
dont get me wrong i luv spending and have nearly eveyrthing i want (besides my lvl and a new pair of wings X_X)
im not a person to complain about this game because,the prices are reasonable in the cash shop, there are lots of things that i want , and the game is the best ive played so..... im not movin to another MMO b:cute.
id throw out any amount of cash at any givin moment if i need too
(aye...... give me time and i might even get myself a warsoul for christmas....b:laugh)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Through the darkness light can always emerge, it is only when the unwilling come upon this light that fear takes over. Emerging from this darkness takes more then courage, it takes faith in ones own mind and more importantly in ones own heart. To deny the light is to deny yourself the feeling of true happiness and true peace within your own soul. Denying your own happiness and your own soul is denying all that one has to live for."
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Isnt it like this in any game? I mean new game = many new low lv players, but how the game evolves those low lv player get higher making the general population high leveled.
PWi is a year and something old, those who love it play it and are in that high level population (exceptions alts, but thats like 1 week of being low lv).
Completely new players? They come, but not as much at one time as if the game just started. Thats why its empty....b:dirty0 -
Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »Isnt it like this in any game? I mean new game = many new low lv players, but how the game evolves those low lv player get higher making the general population high leveled.
PWi is a year and something old, those who love it play it and are in that high level population (exceptions alts, but thats like 1 week of being low lv).
Completely new players? They come, but not as much at one time as if the game just started. Thats why its empty....
Plus dont forget in the first few months of any new game, players make lots of alts to check out the chars, making it seem more like there is more players than there actually is0 -
ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »Plus dont forget in the first few months of any new game, players make lots of alts to check out the chars, making it seem more like there is more players than there actually is
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they need to spend all those anniversary money and make a TV Commercial with Megan Fox as a Cleric flying around or something and then you get everybody to want to play it0
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i find that this game does indeed get repeative but all the same this is the best game i played. i think this game would do well to pay more attention to newer player tho. i've sated countless times that this game seems to be geared towards high level players. there is little to no balance in most events like wratih attaacks and tw. i don't think the high prices are that much of an issue due to the fact that new players just wouldn't know any better. but it would be nice for level 30 players to gather and get some nice drops to sell (the area should be barred from high levels.)
but this is all wishfull thinking on my part lol0 -
Jer - Dreamweaver wrote: »they need to spend all those anniversary money and make a TV Commercial with Megan Fox as a Cleric flying around or something and then you get everybody to want to play it
Thank you for your suggestion... im flattered b:cute0 -
I would have a hard time recommending this game at the moment to anyone who isnt willing to spend $500 dollars on this game eventually. Or I may recommend it with a caveat that it could get expensive depending on how they want to play.
That being said I Enjoy the game and plan to continue to play it and probably spend a bit more money. I guess i spent about $300 on game so far and figure it will nt be hard to spend another $200 making it $500 total.
My biggest complaint with this game is the refinment success rates. It's so ridiculously low, refinement success rate, it might as well be zero without orbs. I have never heard of a game that has, what seems to me, a 20% success rate for +1 refinement. It's not even fun refining cause it s just FAIL, FAIL, FAIL. Refine should work like this IMO.... +1 = 100%.... +2 = 95%... +3 = 85%.... +4 = 70% .... +5 = 50% ... +6 = 25%... +7 = 10%... +8 = 7%.. +9 = 4%.. +10 = 3% or something like that.
Anyway, with refine so bad you might as well plan on spending minimum 20$ on each peice of gear you have when you reach level 90 and above. Keep ijn mind this is on top of all the other little expenditures you be making along the way. And if you want to high refine gear pre level 90, my my, i hate to even think what you might spend.
F2P PWI = at least $500
P2P other game = $50 for disc and $30/month
The huge postive for F2P is that you can sample/test it indefinately for free. I payed $50 for many game dics and dont play them for longer than a week. VERDICT: F2P vs. P2P = toss up, i guess.0 -
Trista_Zel - Dreamweaver wrote: »A lot of flaming on the forums (though it is mostly controlled by the GMs) and a lot of flaming in-game (over WC no less) tends to make people believe that it's not a very good community.
I agree to varied extent. While writing a thoughtful and meaningful response, embellished with logical solutions, founded concern and actionable suggestions, I realized it would start a flame war to which there is no end. I wish I could share my genuine perspective on this, However the aftermath is disproportionate to anything beneficial or productive that may result.
thank you for your honesty and sincerity
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Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »World chat can be rather disgusting sometimes.Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »Even so i tend to ignore flaming posts and WC (seriously people seem to waste teles on spamming it with nonsense).
^^THIS!!!
This hurts the game a lot. People have said repeatedly that the world chat is out of control. You have people talking about things that are just ludicrous to even be allowed to be said. There is a difference in having a lil flirtatious fun and making your very own P**n chat in world chat.
New people come and see this and this is another reason they don't stay long.
Basically it goes back to something in a prior wc post about..
A business owner wouldn't allow a bunch of teenage thugs to loiter outside their business swaying all the customers to stay away. PWI is allowing those same thugs to loiter world chat and perhaps the secret passage as well.
Time after time they've said they can't employ someone to watch world chat all day and ban people. But at the same time, what would be the point in playing if you spend all your time taking screen shots and sending in tickets. And yes the TOS is broken that often in wc. I'd think if its costing them players they could afford to employ someone more than they could afford to lose paying customers.
What it comes down to, even on these forums. Favorites are named, and its taboo. They get a slap on the wrist or nothing at all and it all continues. With the lack of enforcement, things will only get worse; and nothing will change.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
b:chuckle Yes it is your not online at the right times. HT is packed to the brim thats something you don't see I am on at alot of differing times and when I play alts there is like always someone there. Atypically the mines area when I play on my cleric I am resing people like mad. Or even other areas though compared to the start a year ago there aren't alot of people xD but thats just cause its differing times the real ball buster players that were always on back then are already high level. b:surrender I cannot speak for other servers but HT is not declining in new players in the slightest.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »b:chuckle Yes it is your not online at the right times. HT is packed to the brim thats something you don't see I am on at alot of differing times and when I play alts there is like always someone there. Atypically the mines area when I play on my cleric I am resing people like mad. Or even other areas though compared to the start a year ago there aren't alot of people xD but thats just cause its differing times the real ball buster players that were always on back then are already high level. b:surrender I cannot speak for other servers but HT is not declining in new players in the slightest.
Yeah, I've not seen a decline in new player base either on HT. However; I don't ask if they have mains and making alts or what when I see new ppl. From a lot of the posts tho it seems as tho sanctuary is the server with the biggest decrease. So if you step back and try to figure out why?.. Idk. Gotta be a reason![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yeah, I've not seen a decline in new player base either on HT. However; I don't ask if they have mains and making alts or what when I see new ppl. From a lot of the posts tho it seems as tho sanctuary is the server with the biggest decrease. So if you step back and try to figure out why?.. Idk. Gotta be a reason!
Have you taken a look at our map?
Lost City isnt doing very well either....gee, I wonder why b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
im new here and LOOOOVING it!!! world chat does seem like nonsense though i have to agree. why dont they get some volunteer GMs or something to monitor the chats?0
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this thread is really a joke, with assumptions, made up statistics and a bunch of QQing.
School started last month = less time for people to play. When I check out the lowbie areas, sometimes I see little activity, sometimes I see a lot. Much of the new player base seems to be European or South American, and I see as many old players quit as new ones coming in. To anyone who would say 20% of this, or 70% of that... just... lol.
There are a number of older players who have recently come back. Seems one of the new PWI-killers was just fancy looking but too shallow for some players, and others are just finding their way back too.
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I have been seeing lots new players around Plume City.0
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[/QUOTE]BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »This hurts the game a lot. People have said repeatedly that the world chat is out of control.
It takes GMs to monitor world chat, and PWi seems very reluctant about spending more money on GMs than they are now.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Volunteers GMs are a bad thing. Like volunteers forums mods.Donmeka - Lost City wrote: »im new here and LOOOOVING it!!! world chat does seem like nonsense though i have to agree. why dont they get some volunteer GMs or something to monitor the chats?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh0 -
Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »Volunteers GMs are a bad thing. Like volunteers forums mods.
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Trista_Zel - Dreamweaver wrote: »A lot of flaming on the forums (though it is mostly controlled by the GMs) and a lot of flaming in-game (over WC no less) tends to make people believe that it's not a very good community. A good community is one major contribution to gaining new players and getting them to stay. Heck, had I not started in January when the community was still pretty decent, I wouldn't have stayed more than 10 minutes.
THIS but i joined slightly later lol like june (just before anni and chest of coins it i had maby 2 noob weeks of play during 100k gold prices b:sad) dang if only those 2 items just suddenly vanished from the games existance gold may fially go under 200k again in maby a few months but hey can only dream. it is a fun game to play I still agree but it just takes so much more to even accomplish anything anymore. used to be grind a day or two afford something you want now it's grind a week or a month and maby get something. (this is not including things such as selling TT mats and such) even 500k isn't **** now days so my recomindation to any new player. learn to farm and sell fast or you'll be way behind and to a friend pff don't even try the game till it calms down alittle. even if the new expansion hits i wouldn't recomend it at the current state0
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