Clerics Should be Faster

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  • mazzle
    mazzle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Make use of holy path and apoths and stop crying.
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ...stop being so critical, and hiding.


    and do learn to read, it will vastly improve your life...i did mention that i use it.

    mazzle wrote: »
    Make use of holy path and apoths and stop crying.
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited November 2009
    I say make them fatter to accurately reflect their moving speed. b:laugh
  • mazzle
    mazzle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...stop being so critical, and hiding.


    and do learn to read, it will vastly improve your life...i did mention that i use it.

    Hiding? from what? and you assume too much, i wasn't talking to you, i only read what OP stated and learn to read? would i be able to reply to a thread if i was illiterate?
  • ewingoil
    ewingoil Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Yes as I said in the cleric forum as well as Wizards and non trueform Barbs.I would say that clerics should be the fastest not one of the slowest.
  • RavinTink - Sanctuary
    RavinTink - Sanctuary Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Being almost lvl 86, Ive been in several instances, obviously! I do have Holy Path, it helps but not much. I have tried the lvl 79 skill, mostly when I need that extra phys def, cant really run if Im getting hit while healing :P. And obviously I have been left behind quite often. I say raise our speed if everyone else wants the Clerics to actually do what they are ment to do....HEAL YOU!!

    I was in BH69 just 2 days ago. We had already killed Pyro for someone and was heading to kill Gaurknob and Polearm. EVERYONE left me behind. By the time I got in the room, they had the turtle boss dead and had already pulled Gaurknob. The I got in the room just as the Barb's HP was about to bottom out. I SIMPLY STOOD THERE AND WAITED!! lmao. After the squad got completely whiped out and started yelling "res pls??" "why didnt you heal??" I finally told them this "If you had half the brain of a backwards goose, you would have waited until your CLERIC got her slow **** in here" I res'd them and simply left squad. Got my BH done about 20 mins later with a different squad....who actually waited around every corner for me to catch up! (very rare O.O)

    So I voted Yes...ASAP!
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    b:chuckle Nope clerics don't get speed there is a reason they are slow they can heal themselves and when they have good gears and heals stacked they are freaking terrible opponents suddenly you have someone who can heal themselves move faster then you do MASSIVE phys and magic damage can make you stop moving kill your defenses and nuke you without a second thought. Suddenly your not disadvantaged anymore your OP. They are slow for a reason, they are one of the most powerful classes if played right. So I voted no I don't want super clerics zipping around they are a pain as is.
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  • JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver
    JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Would you cross the road without looking first?

    Imho any squad that runs into battle without checking if cleric is ready/nearby deserves to die a slow and painful death.
    It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
  • Myralis - Sanctuary
    Myralis - Sanctuary Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Kinda agree with OP, but I wouldnt want the base speed raised. All Id want is some kind of emergency skill if someone gets attacked and you have to get there fast (beam me up scotty lol).
    Sure Holy Path is an option but... other classes get speed skills for spirit not stamina b:sad

    And the 79 skill someone mentioned is a joke lol
    It costs 1 spark, got a cooldown of 5 minutes and only gives 30% more speed. And its not meant to be speed skill, its a skill for situations when alls lost and you got to run away without dying. Would be stupid to use it and if you need it its in cooldown.
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Now thats not entirely true you failed to mention you also get 60% damage reduction 5 min cool down is the same as the venos feral concentration and that seems to cool down faster then one might think.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Now thats not entirely true you failed to mention you also get 60% damage reduction 5 min cool down is the same as the venos feral concentration and that seems to cool down faster then one might think.

    You also have a speed buff. This isnt about damage reduction, its about running speed, thats why the 60% damage reduction wasnt mentioned. Why are you bringing that up? lol
  • Myralis - Sanctuary
    Myralis - Sanctuary Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Now thats not entirely true you failed to mention you also get 60% damage reduction 5 min cool down is the same as the venos feral concentration and that seems to cool down faster then one might think.

    Thats why I said it would be stupid to waste it, you might need it to run away.
    But if we only consider speed... its not wise to use it for that purpose if nothing attacks you.

    True but.. I prefer to have my skills ready if something happens lol
    Clerics tend to die in less than 5 minutes if something thats a boss attacks them lol
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  • Engita - Sanctuary
    Engita - Sanctuary Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    also clerics = winged elves = passive flight mastery = faster then wizards.

    Except that that passive mastery only applies to the starter wings which naturally have +0.00 speed. The brown wings clerics get at level 30 do not get the bonus.

    And even with maxed mastery and a willingness to lose 2 mp per second while flying. It is still only +2.00 speed.

    But honestly, don't care too much. Yes, the speed difference can make a difference (I wear +speed gear), but generally it isn't a big deal.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Engita - Sanctuary wrote: »
    also clerics = winged elves = passive flight mastery = faster then wizards.

    Except that that passive mastery only applies to the starter wings which naturally have +0.00 speed. The brown wings clerics get at level 30 do not get the bonus.

    And even with maxed mastery and a willingness to lose 2 mp per second while flying. It is still only +2.00 speed.

    the topic was about *running* not flying.
  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Myralis - Sanctuary wrote: »

    It costs 1 spark, got a cooldown of 5 minutes and only gives 30% more speed. And its not meant to be speed skill, its a skill for situations when alls lost and you got to run away without dying. Would be stupid to use it and if you need it its in cooldown.
    thats why ^^
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Myralis - Sanctuary wrote: »

    It costs 1 spark, got a cooldown of 5 minutes and only gives 30% more speed. And its not meant to be speed skill, its a skill for situations when alls lost and you got to run away without dying. Would be stupid to use it and if you need it its in cooldown.

    thats what she meant. 30% speed for 10 seconds, at the cost of 1 spark means diddly. Clerics should be faster in some way.
  • Myralis - Sanctuary
    Myralis - Sanctuary Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    thats what she meant. 30% speed for 10 seconds, at the cost of 1 spark means diddly. Clerics should be faster in some way.

    QFT, thats what I meant.
    Damage reduction does nothing to my speed I have, so I left it out ^.~ Useless fact.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:chuckle Nope clerics don't get speed there is a reason they are slow they can heal themselves and when they have good gears and heals stacked they are freaking terrible opponents suddenly you have someone who can heal themselves move faster then you do MASSIVE phys and magic damage can make you stop moving kill your defenses and nuke you without a second thought. Suddenly your not disadvantaged anymore your OP. They are slow for a reason, they are one of the most powerful classes if played right. So I voted no I don't want super clerics zipping around they are a pain as is.

    I think so. There is a reason why they are so slow. Actually they are as slow as we wizards. We can use our distant shrink, but it takes 20 chi which is quite a lot. You will use it 5x and 1 spark is gone. So yes if they would be faster, they would be OP for sure.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i loled @ mage calling a cleric OP due to them becoming a little faster.

    I think the whole point of this thread is for clerics to be able to actually keep up with squad members in dungeons. Thats not too much to ask for I dont think.

    Its not like we are asking for a speed boost like Tiger-form Barbs / Bms


    and to the wiz:

    Dont you think it's kinda OP that you have 2 meters more range than we do? when clerics are slower than you, making it difficult to even reach u before you kill us? not to mention shrinking when we do get in range.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I am sure, if you do not wine a FB that you will not have the problem of being left behind....

    When you think speed boost, you have to think how it would affect everything, not just the one little example you give.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i loled @ mage calling a cleric OP due to them becoming a little faster.

    I think the whole point of this thread is for clerics to be able to actually keep up with squad members in dungeons. Thats not too much to ask for I dont think.

    Its not like we are asking for a speed boost like Tiger-form Barbs / Bms


    and to the wiz:

    Dont you think it's kinda OP that you have 2 meters more range than we do? when clerics are slower than you, making it difficult to even reach u before you kill us? not to mention shrinking when we do get in range.

    We have another weakness you know? Especially at lv. 1-80 we could be death very easily. Should I continue how pain in **** is to play as a mage at these 1-80lv?b:laugh
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I dont think that a 0.2-0.3 speed boost would affect anything majorly to cause us to become "OP" thats just ignorant to call us that.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    I dont think that a 0.2-0.3 speed boost would affect anything majorly to cause us to become "OP" thats just ignorant.

    Those amounts can easely be covered by gear. However, when you ask for a skill that provides a speed boost, pretty sure nobody is thinking it would be only 0.2 m/s... that would be a waste of mana.

    If you asking 0.2-0.3 increase in base speed, than no. Unless all classes get the same base speed boost.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    I dont think that a 0.2-0.3 speed boost would affect anything majorly to cause us to become "OP" thats just ignorant to call us that.

    ....clerics get 0.2 speed boost....
    3 seconds later....
    b:shocked
    O DANG THAT CLERIC RAN UP TO ME AND SMACKED ME TO DEATH WHILE I WAS TRYING TO CAST~!
    QQ

    they now too OP~
    D:
    and all clerics are going melee now~! b:chuckle
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    I dont think that a 0.2-0.3 speed boost would affect anything majorly to cause us to become "OP" thats just ignorant to call us that.

    Ok. I will ask. Why you should be faster? All smart squad is waiting for cleric and doesn't have any problem with it. Why you want have everything? 0.2-0.3 is quite a lot. Also you can have +?m/s gear + you can use holy path.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ok. I will ask. Why you should be faster? All smart squad is waiting for cleric and doesn't have any problem with it. Why you want have everything? 0.2-0.3 is quite a lot. Also you can have +?m/s gear + you can use holy path.

    lets just say im usually with a lot of idiots in dungeons yelling at me to hurry up. It is quite annoying not to be able to keep up with everyone.

    If anyone could give me a reasonable example that would define cleric as OP with a speed boost, feel free. Otherwise all im seeing is a "u dont agree with me, shut up- attitude"
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    lets just say im usually with a lot of idiots in dungeons yelling at me to hurry up. It is quite annoying not to be able to keep up with everyone.

    You do realize you play on a PVP server... You really do not have to put up with idiots.....
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    lets just say im usually with a lot of idiots in dungeons yelling at me to hurry up. It is quite annoying not to be able to keep up with everyone.

    lol Bowlinbob you know what you has to do. (o.o)'
    press e then toggle to walk.
    b:chuckle
    tell them if they don't quiet down then you'll continue to walk.
    xD
    and tell them good luck healing and ressing themselves.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    lets just say im usually with a lot of idiots in dungeons yelling at me to hurry up. It is quite annoying not to be able to keep up with everyone.

    Because they are idiots. Every normal player should know, that cleric is the slowest and wait for him. And I'm the second one just one step ahead of him.b:chuckle
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ffs stop QQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lvl-up a damn holly path and use that **** whenever u have enough energy on your genie.
    I can keep up the pace with a barb for God's sake ( chi skill + blink and H.Path). And with gear I didn't actually choose for speed I have a 5.2m/s base speed.

    And for all the morons that die because they can't wait for a cleric: YOU DESERVE IT.
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