Aggro mechanics; tips..

Amarante - Raging Tide

For boss fights, i just want to say that dd's who well know that even if their barb is the same, or higher, level than them, but their dps is too high, they can "watch" that dps by simply backing off. Click Esc on keyboard, press a direction key to walk away or click the ground to do so.

The biggest problems for squads (especially lower ones) with many dd's is that their dd's problem lies not in their weakness of little hp, because they're not the ones tanking so they don't need to care, but it lies in their strength. Better phrased, it lies in the ignorance of their strength. Tanks can only spam their aggro skills *that* fast, but dd's (like me QQ) who burn thousands of damage per hit at 2 aps really really need to be careful.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

prob is that DDs dont care about aggro often tbh

person who is 80lvl sin or archer know already that he is potential aggro stealer, but they do it anywayz

b:surrender

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

oh, this guide is gonna sell a lot now with the +30% attack boostb:chuckle

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver

Really great guide. Excellent for all that are not familiar with aggro. I think everyone should read this.

I have met venos that brambled everyone in the squad, I have met barbs that would never go into tiger form and insist on tanking pole with humanoid form, I have met archers that spark like crazy and do not give chance for lower lvl tanks to grab aggro first, I have met clerics that do not understand that healing the tank when he hasn't grabbed all the mobs will cause aggro, and much more. I'm not attacking anyone personally but there are lots of players out there that do not understand aggro and end up getting whole squad killed.

Props to you for making this guide. I read it through and learned much from it as well. We all started out not knowing anything at some point.

warlos

Well Done

going to try on HAPPY WRAITH

Choco - Raging Tide

Very nice guide, reading this should be mandatory for newbies b:victory

P.S.: love those little illustrations b:pleased

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

thx, they are best part of that guide b:chuckle

Nephice - Heavens Tear

Thank you thank you thank you. I've been playing for a little bit and just now came across this thread. If only I had read this when I was a little low lvl noob and not the mid-range lvl noob I am now. b:chuckle

But seriously, ty ty ty! b:thanks

Chronobarok - Raging Tide

LOLLLLLL the legolas picture is hilarious

ianmn

Not sure if it was already covered, but i've, as a bm with zeal, had a prob with heal aggro and eathflame: Cleric IH's me and i use earthflame, sometimes, if IH animation still glowing around me, cleric massive aggros all mobs in general vicinity of my earthflame.

(particular prob with boss adds, will get the whole pack rather than 1 add)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

ianmn wrote: »

Not sure if it was already covered, but i've, as a bm with zeal, had a prob with heal aggro and eathflame: Cleric IH's me and i use earthflame, sometimes, if IH animation still glowing around me, cleric massive aggros all mobs in general vicinity of my earthflame.

(particular prob with boss adds, will get the whole pack rather than 1 add)

yeah, thats is typical heal aggro on puller - just wait sec or two next time after pre-ih

there is one tip about it in cleric part, but with veno as example. i will edit it now and add genies too

tx


@Nephice

thx and no worries.. few tips i put here were learned when i was above your lvl


@Chronobarok

would never giuess that result of my laziness will amuse so many ppl lol

xxxdsmer

the picture of roar is accurate, but the pic attempting to describe flesh ream looks to me like an acclarity of the beast and a zerk (like from calamity axes of blood).

i went on my barb n got it chi'd up n went to verify my recollection from memory, and it was correct. there is a big kinda fireball/explosion on the mob, but no fire on the barb for a fleshream (no zerk weapon equipped ofc, but it is possible for ream and zerk to happen at the same time i suppose)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

=O

ehh i will fix it

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

fixed, ty

Sarieanna - Raging Tide

amazing guide thing!! Thanks for posting this b:thanks

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

/up b:pleased

Abocanhadora - Dreamweaver

This is a guide that its more than 2 years old...

Is it outdated? HELL NOT!

Actually, not even is up to the date, its even EVEN more needed on this days than it was in the past. With the current community of this game and the easy acess to powerlevel any char at any time, guides like this make even more sense than in the past b:laugh

sangodoc

FYI, most of this guide, plus a few new tidbits, is available at the PWI wiki here: Aggro

Blueblade__ - Archosaur

We need a full guide to teach sins how to not get aggro

arnaldo4455

Good, so this means I was not the one failing in my group yesterday.

I am a lvl 35 barb, with 4.5k hp. My group was two archers and I. They kept attacking different targets in PV. I tried my best to bite each target, then they called a third one - lol. My roar was not holding- now I know why.

I am def gonna share this with them. I will stop beating myself with a stick if it was not my fault.

I know this thread has been out for a while, but tyvm anyway.

XooFIREoox - Heavens Tear

just wanted to add, if your with a demon barb w/demon skills his flesh ream cooldown is only 1.5 sec, roar has 100% phys dmg reflect, and sunder makes every hit crit for 5sec. Follow that up with arma right after with solid shield on and your aoe aggro is nice and stable for a bit. toss in a surf impact for good measure with sunders crit bonus after arma and your not doin too shabby. do it all in trip spark for good measure. gonna need cloud eruption tho unless the group of mobs is big enough for Beastial rage(demon version chi gain changed to 8 per hit.) to do it for ya. I.E. the pull before Runewolf boss in FF(Might Whirling Slash boss). Hope this info helps at all. thats my 2 cents. b:bye

SynfulDream - Dreamweaver

Thank you! Great guide-for every class. And also great tips added by others. I know this is is an older post-but still valid and awesome.
Posted link on my factions forum site. Thank you again

XXxxYukixxXX - Sanctuary

sin use chill deep to reduce aps ,anyways sin are good at 1 vs 1 .if u got high refine u will be fine and can tank everythings with some buffs

Syddah_ - Sanctuary

*claps excitedly*

This guide has really opened my eyes to a lot of things. In my nearly four years of playing (been around a long time, but was a late bloomer on posting in forums, obviously. and i could only be on sporadically, due to internet issues.) on various characters, dungeons always intimidated me. I'd hang back and watch, and TRY to learn the mechanics of how things came together, and I'd never dare to attack, for fear of making those big 'ol baddies notice little old me cowering in the back of the group. Now I have a better understanding of how each of my characters can play a key role in the party without making a big hairy mess for everyone else. Well written so that even a ditzy twit like me can catch a clue. Wish I'd been smart enough to find this long ago. I'd always been afraid to speak up and ask questions because I was afraid I'd get punted from the party for being such a noob.

TY for this wonderful glimpse into a subject that has confused me for a long time. I know I'll be a more meaningful addition to squads from here on out.


Still learning and growing as I go,

The Perpetual Newblet

Bodoheim - Dreamweaver

Good enough review. Now I will be able to take a closer look at my skills, and the existence of a preferred.

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Updates from the new skills, from my experience.

Stomp of the King!! Use it every chance you get once you can learn it. This is powerful enough to rip aggro straight off a seeker of equivalent gear. It acts essentially as a ROAR + REAM at the same time. Its got a longer cool down, but the aggro amount really is massive, and they didn't lie this time in the description.

If you want to put out some serious damage and grip some serious aggro as a barb to retain that aggro in spawn point deltas:

activate Blood rush - stomp of the king to grip that aggro like a champ - activate bestial rage - demon sunder - humanoid swap - demon arma.

maybe you'll hit a zerk crit with those fancy new axes of yours Make those seekers envy your aggro retention skills.

JessyWolf - Archosaur

Interesting

STrickeeN - Harshlands

o.O is this still useful?