Which class is the most gimped

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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited October 2009

    bingo...my archer is the hardest to play, for these reasons, and is the farthest behind all my alts...which is a pity, because i love her attacks

    natedog97 wrote: »
    Archers have the least surviviablity.

    Wizards have great def agains magical attacks and earth barrier buffs their physical attacks

    BMs have great Pdef and skills to raise it higher (at cost of mdef) and buff. They can also raise Mdef (as a cost of pdef)

    Archers have no buffs to raise defenses and typically have low defences against both pdef and mdef.
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  • LordChronis - Dreamweaver
    LordChronis - Dreamweaver Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I've never seen any reasonably normal person complain about being a blademaster, barbarian, or cleric being gimped. They only complain about their armor(what class doesn't?) or charms.. Venomancers should be on the list...


    You, sir, do not realize how friggin' gimped venos are out of all the classes, end-game(with the exception of archers, but in all fairness, they start out as being one of the most OP class early in-game). Venos CANNOT solo everything in-game during end-game. Most end-game bosses have MP Drains, Curse, Armor Break, etc debuffs that ends up 1 shotting about any pets in the game. Or they can one shot them out of just brute attack. And end-game PvP? Venos already have gimped out magic attacks that does nearly half of what wizards and clerics can do. And don't QQ about Pet Bleed bug here... They're worth **** to any real "end-game" player with super refine armors. Hell, with the venomancers' already gimped magic damage, they can just kill the bird and kill the veno before they get a chance to revive it.

    You, sir, fail for not knowing the negatives of all classes and just calling something fail because you didn't do your research henceforth.

    I think archers are the most gimped, and venomancers come close to second.

    I know the negitives of venos and i didnt say they could solo it all b:laugh i said they can solo things NO OTHER CLASS CAN <---thats bottom line lets see you run a TT squad mode alone with bosses....Cant....guess not >.>b:bye

    Wanna pvp get a nix and the QQ goes away, Wanna drop awesome magic nuke roll a wiz.

    Venos are a solo based class , seriously all this QQ about how there gimped is pure QQ all lvl 95+ venos i know roll with a nix and all have red names 90% of the time.So all this "Gimped" veno talk is all to the poor ones that dont have a nix or complain cause wizards do more magic damage ..... give it a rest.

    Less QQ more Pew Pew b:surrender

    And ill second archers being gimped but not the most gimped b:bye
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  • /Alex/ - Sanctuary
    /Alex/ - Sanctuary Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    venos and BMs share the "most gimped" banner equally imho. reason for this is that they are both set up as a "jack of all trades" class, they are good at just about everything, but are easily outclassed by the other classes in anything they can do (at least pve-wise... pvp is a different story, and i won't get into a debate on my opinions about it)
  • Sancrkf - Heavens Tear
    Sancrkf - Heavens Tear Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    I can say that wizards are definatelly not gimped, at least I don't think so... it's just harder than other classes to master, that's all...

    we're supposed NOT to get hit, and have lots of skills to help doing so... how's that gimped? :3

    not talking about pvp though, didn't try that yet :3
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    natedog97 wrote: »
    Levels 1-19
    Wizard (no knockback, almost no pdef)
    Archer (no knockback)
    Cleric (no knockback, almost no pdef... has heals)
    BM (low mdef)
    Barb (low mdef... high hp)
    Veno (almost no pdef... Pet to tank)

    Levels 19-60
    Wizard (low pdef)
    Cleric (low pdef... has heals)
    BM (low mdef)
    Barb (low mdef... high hp)
    Archer (low hp, high fast dmg... knockback)
    Veno (low pdef... Pet tanks)

    60-89
    BM (low mdef... lots of stuns/aoes)
    Barb (low mdef... high hp, gets party easy)
    Cleric (low pdef... has heals, gets party easy)
    Wizard (pdef still lacking... dmg growing fast)
    Archer (low hp, high fast dmg... knockback)
    Veno (low pdef... Pet tanks)



    Levels 89+
    Archer (low hp, pdef and mdef of LA is no longer enough, cannot kill players before they reach you because of high refined gears)
    Veno (low pdef nix loses effect in pvp with higher refined players... Pet tanks, but cant handle tanking most higher bosses now)
    BM (low mdef... lots of stuns/aoes)
    Barb (low mdef, low dmg output... rediculously high hp, gets party easy)
    Cleric (low pdef... has heals, gets party easy, dmg compareable to wizard)
    Wizard (extreemly high dmg, earth barrier is now 120% of base pdef (150% if demon skill))


    Flame about the order I have them in all you want but that is the way I see it.
    Regarding the cleric from 1 to 19 they have vanguard spirit to help with pdef.
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  • Zazuma - Dreamweaver
    Zazuma - Dreamweaver Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    well so far i found archer not too bad but i'm only lvl 44, the one upside to archers i do see though is that crit rate so pve wise it's nice to kill stuff before it even reaches me as long as you spread your knockbacks and stuins out enough surviving as one isn't all too bad
  • AuralSlave - Heavens Tear
    AuralSlave - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Well I havent PvPed much but all I know is that Archers shudnt be looked down upon...All the PvP's I have had with players around my level, believe u me..I have won them all...Since Archers use Light armor, their Pdef and Mdef is about moderate..so they dont take any bonus damage from the other classes..With Archers its just the matter of Luck for the crits to kick in...I dunno how it is at higher levels...I know barbs own every class except Veno...Veno pawns high lvl barbs..so its pretty balanced for every1...Archers against arcane armor is like killing a lvl 20 mob...i m jus talkin in respect to the PvP's I have had so far..Wizards manage to land mayb 1 or 2 skills on me n then the Victory Sign appears for me..even without using any skills..Clerics are busy healing themselves so they dont attack...mayb the players I PvPed werent as equiped but then again my point being...Archers are definitely gimped...Against BM's and Barbs its all about crits coz they have only 4 metal damage skills...I rmmber killing a BM before he even reached me...luckily i got 2x1.5k crits wit 2 skills and 1 normal hit, he died... :p
  • Candeh_Love - Sanctuary
    Candeh_Love - Sanctuary Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Hmm...interesting, but in my oppinion, all classes have their issues, I know cuz I was curious enough to make one of each. :P But when it comes to surviving wizzies are the most likely to go poof if one of their spells backfire for example. At least archers have that plume shield and I think that protects better than the pdef shield of wizzies, but hey, that's only my oppinion.

    Oh and venos aren't overpowered, every class has its advantages, venos have a pet and barbs have huge p.def and hp xD, not to mention wizzies that are one of the strongest magic class in the game oh and with self healing clerics I rest my case. b:chuckle
  • gogereaver
    gogereaver Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    no class is gimped i have played em all. some have a hard time at certen levels like wizards before they can heal. archers can have issues at low levels. venos are not overpowerd. tank the pet attack the veno it will drop fast.