Language filter

Zoe - Heavens Tear

I miss the filters on the fourms of another mmo. Instead of being ***** it said [I have a potty mouth]

You don't accidently type something unless its a typo. You think about what you are going to type before you type it. If you don't want a filter, remove the need for it. Don't use the language in the first place.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear

Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »

Did someone say something about teacher's pet?

I remember that Disney cartoon! It was somewhat entertaining...

b:chuckle

bramante

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Clearly you failed to understand what i was saying. Im asking it to be OPTIONAL, which means YOU and whoever else gets bad dreams from reading foul language will see *** while others will read real english. Nobody wants your pink and roses chat to be affected in any way.

Also, what some of you are forgetting, if a player wants to insult another, they will do so. No amount of filtering will stop it. However, like someone already mentioned before, proper text sometimes gets mixed and filtered, butchering the english language.

The only diference between what we have now and a optional filter is that players wont have to learn to type incorrectly like they do with filter.

PS: Elitism is far more offensive than foul language. Should i report you?

I find this seriously amusing! He's moaning about butchering proper English with ****'s while he wishes to use improper, butchered English... b:chuckle

Besides that, I'd say a fair percentage of young players will work out how to turn off a filter and spam it, believing it to be tough, funny and adult. If you have to resort to constantly using such language, you're telling everyone you are of limited capacity to understand and explain things otherwise.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Warmechanism - Harshlands wrote: »

The problem here isn't about the filter only. Is about defining the boundaries of language sadly.

Yes, there are people who sadly think that any language is fine under any circumstances. There are others who think there are a time and a place for said language, and then there are some who think there is no time and place for it.

No one knows the boundaries, you are right. So the game has clearly taken the NO vulgar language rule, and no one wants to uphold it.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You see what I did here? By redirecting your attention to my clearly ignorant and inflamatory post, I was able to start to bring both sides a bit closer to an understanding point, without the need to attack one another.

Forum Jesus FTW.


b:victory

Forum troll or guru maybe But you are a cute one!

Absoluth - Heavens Tear

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I miss the filters on the fourms of another mmo. Instead of being ***** it said [I have a potty mouth]

You don't accidently type something unless its a typo. You think about what you are going to type before you type it. If you don't want a filter, remove the need for it. Don't use the language in the first place.

First of all, stop being elitist and judgemental. Might not be intentional, but its poaring out of your posts. You're talking about thinking before writing yet you're not doing so.
Second, i dont live in a teletubbie world.
Third, im not asking to opt out of filter so i can go around insulting everyone i see, nor do i want others to do so. For some reason you make it sound like we're all 'potty mouths' and have zero social skills.

Fact is, what i want is for everyone to have an option. What you want is for everyone to be like you. What you still seem to fail to understand is that with the option, you'll still remain in the same situation you are now whereas right now, i have to live in a teletubbie world you enjoy so much.
I just want everyone to be able to choose. In no way would making it optional affect you in any way.
Now do you get it?

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes, there are people who sadly think that any language is fine under any circumstances. There are others who think there are a time and a place for said language, and then there are some who think there is no time and place for it.

No one knows the boundaries, you are right. So the game has clearly taken the NO vulgar language rule, and no one wants to uphold it.




Forum troll or guru maybe But you are a cute one!

I have my good sides and bad sides...so I guess I'm more of a...

Trol-uru?

Yeah...good enough for me.

ಥ_ಥ ...beautiful.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

First of all, stop being elitist and judgemental. Might not be intentional, but its poaring out of your posts. You're talking about thinking before writing yet you're not doing so.
Second, i dont live in a teletubbie world.
Third, im not asking to opt out of filter so i can go around insulting everyone i see, nor do i want others to do so. For some reason you make it sound like we're all 'potty mouths' and have zero social skills.

Fact is, what i want is for everyone to have an option. What you want is for everyone to be like you. What you still seem to fail to understand is that with the option, you'll still remain in the same situation you are now whereas right now, i have to live in a teletubbie world you enjoy so much.
I just want everyone to be able to choose. In no way would making it optional affect you in any way.
Now do you get it?

The point is, they don't want that language in the game in the first place. Either stop using it, and show you actually know other words, or go back to english classes and learn new words.

Rurik_Niall - Dreamweaver

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

First of all, stop being elitist and judgemental. Might not be intentional, but its poaring out of your posts. You're talking about thinking before writing yet you're not doing so.
Second, i dont live in a teletubbie world.
Third, im not asking to opt out of filter so i can go around insulting everyone i see, nor do i want others to do so. For some reason you make it sound like we're all 'potty mouths' and have zero social skills.

Fact is, what i want is for everyone to have an option. What you want is for everyone to be like you. What you still seem to fail to understand is that with the option, you'll still remain in the same situation you are now whereas right now, i have to live in a teletubbie world you enjoy so much.
I just want everyone to be able to choose. In no way would making it optional affect you in any way.
Now do you get it?

The problem is, it's just easier for the moderators to leave the filters on permanently. If they made it so they could be disabled, they'd have all the idiot parents out their crawling up their butts because Perfect World isn't doing what they as parents should be doing themselves and protecting their brats from what they don't want them to be exposed to. You seem to underestimate just how lazy modern parents can be. Rather than doing their jobs themselves, they expect the rest of the world to make sure their twerps aren't watching rated R movies, playing violent video games with lots of foul languages, or eating too much candy before bed time.

Warmechanism - Harshlands

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I miss the filters on the fourms of another mmo. Instead of being ***** it said [I have a potty mouth]

You don't accidently type something unless its a typo. You think about what you are going to type before you type it. If you don't want a filter, remove the need for it. Don't use the language in the first place.

The foul language will not dissapear. Not now not ever. It's in our nature. You can preach and preach but nowhere will there be a comunity where foul language isn't used. Fighting a natural thing is tiring, counterproductive and all around useless. If a person's language is bothering you, ignore him, blacklist him, pk him, whatever. But don't go on a "step back! I will show this lost soul the true way of kindess and understanding, cause I glow with sanctity" rampage. I hate overly good people as much i hate bad people. Because both are trying to hard impose their point of view.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Warmechanism - Harshlands wrote: »

The foul language will not dissapear. Not now not ever. It's in our nature. You can preach and preach but nowhere will there be a comunity where foul language isn't used. Fighting a natural thing is tiring, counterproductive and all around useless. If a person's language is bothering you, ignore him, blacklist him, pk him, whatever. But don't go on a "step back! I will show this lost soul the true way of kindess and understanding, cause I glow with sanctity" rampage. I hate overly good people as much i hate bad people. Because both are trying to hard impose their point of view.

Then what part of, "you are breaking the rules by even using such language" do you not understand?

You agree not to post, upload to, transmit, distribute, store, create or otherwise publish through the Site any of the following:

* (a) User Content that is unlawful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, suggestive, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable;

I hope you all get muted/banned.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

First of all, stop being elitist and judgemental. Might not be intentional, but its poaring out of your posts. You're talking about thinking before writing yet you're not doing so.
Second, i dont live in a teletubbie world.
Third, im not asking to opt out of filter so i can go around insulting everyone i see, nor do i want others to do so. For some reason you make it sound like we're all 'potty mouths' and have zero social skills.

Fact is, what i want is for everyone to have an option. What you want is for everyone to be like you. What you still seem to fail to understand is that with the option, you'll still remain in the same situation you are now whereas right now, i have to live in a teletubbie world you enjoy so much.
I just want everyone to be able to choose. In no way would making it optional affect you in any way.
Now do you get it?

Ok in a nutshell, you want to play around adults all the time join a P2P. There are kids who play here, lots of them. And because of this they have a "no vulgar language" clause. Plus there are some of us adults who don't appreciate it either. The problem is more times than not, that some of the children who play are just that, CHILDREN. And likely they will be the first and foremost ones abusing the fact that there is NO filter. Therefore, its really a bad thing. Making it optional may or may not affect Zoe in any way, but it would affect the under aged people playing the game.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have my good sides and bad sides...so I guess I'm more of a...

Trol-uru?

Yeah...good enough for me.

ಥ_ಥ ...beautiful.

Ok but since I gave u the idea, I own it Catch phrase of the day.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The point is, they don't want that language in the game in the first place. Either stop using it, and show you actually know other words, or go back to english classes and learn new words.

Even though I am clearly on your side in this matter, insulting someone doesn't help either.

Warmechanism - Harshlands

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Then what part of, "you are breaking the rules by even using such language" do you not understand?

You agree not to post, upload to, transmit, distribute, store, create or otherwise publish through the Site any of the following:

* (a) User Content that is unlawful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, suggestive, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable;

YOU DO NOT ENFORCE THESE RULES!!! THE GMS DO. Let them deal with those players. Mind your own business.

Konariraiden - Heavens Tear

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Then what part of, "you are breaking the rules by even using such language" do you not understand?

You agree not to post, upload to, transmit, distribute, store, create or otherwise publish through the Site any of the following:

* (a) User Content that is unlawful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, suggestive, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable;

I hope you all get muted/banned.

Same here, sweet cheeks. b:kiss

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ok but since I gave u the idea, I own it Catch phrase of the day.

...aww...okay. I get 55% ownership, you get 45.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

Warmechanism - Harshlands wrote: »

YOU DO NOT ENFORCE THESE RULES!!! THE GMS DO. Let them deal with those players. Mind your own business.

Sounds like you fear getting reported for your language. If you don't like it, I found this in the terms as well. Feel free to act on it.

You have the right to terminate or cancel your Account at any time by delivering notice to PWE. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your User Id is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute, including, but not limited to, any related to, or arising out of: (i) any term of this Agreement or PWE’s enforcement or application of this Agreement; (ii) the User Contents; (iii) your ability to access and/or use the Service or the Website; or (iv) the amount or type of fees, surcharges, applicable taxes, billing methods, or any change to the fees, applicable taxes, surcharges or billing methods.

Robb - Heavens Tear

it is easily possible to remove the language filter, meaning that when swear words leave ur pc they dont get turned to **** but however when somebody else gets the swear word on their chat it gets turned to **** becuase they have the filter on.

if we got everybody to remove their language filter then in theory you could swear at will, and all GMs would see is **** unless they had the language filter taken out aswell?
but i suppose they would serverside it after a while.

i can easily build this patch if anybody wants it

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Rurik_Niall - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The problem is, it's just easier for the moderators to leave the filters on permanently. If they made it so they could be disabled, they'd have all the idiot parents out their crawling up their butts because Perfect World isn't doing what they as parents should be doing themselves and protecting their brats from what they don't want them to be exposed to. You seem to underestimate just how lazy modern parents can be. Rather than doing their jobs themselves, they expect the rest of the world to make sure their twerps aren't watching rated R movies, playing violent video games with lots of foul languages, or eating too much candy before bed time.

It has nothing to do with lazy parents. In order for them to implement such a filter, they would have to contact EVERY parent who has previously released their children to play this game as per the prior Terms of service. The TOS would have to change to allow this.

You are seriously anti-child. Which tells me you clearly don't have children in the real world. My children aren't BRATS. They are very well behaved, very respectful and very intelligent children. You are putting all children in a category which is called "stereotyping". Children also should not be called twerps, you are merely giving Zoe more reason to want even further filter implemented. You are resolving to spew insults about children in a thread currently being fought about the protection measures of them.

By the way, you just broke several forum rules yourself. Trolling/Flaming/insulting. There is no need for it. You surely can get your point across about how you feel on the issue without insulting others, or demeaning children.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Warmechanism - Harshlands wrote: »

YOU DO NOT ENFORCE THESE RULES!!! THE GMS DO. Let them deal with those players. Mind your own business.

Robb - Heavens Tear wrote: »

it is easily possible to remove the language filter, meaning that when swear words leave ur pc they dont get turned to **** but however when somebody else gets the swear word on their chat it gets turned to **** becuase they have the filter on.

if we got everybody to remove their language filter then in theory you could swear at will, and all GMs would see is **** unless they had the language filter taken out aswell?
but i suppose they would serverside it after a while.

i can easily build this patch if anybody wants it

So why use any intelligent words at all? Lets just allow a string of curse words to take over all legitimacy of the game.

Hi *** how *** are*** and ***. What *** can***causer***bla***blah*** and ***. See what sense that makes?People would then use the asterisk more often!!!

eatwithspoons

This thread descended into flames long ago.


Alright, I get were OP is coming from, I know of games that have a filter that can be enabled or disabled at will. Aside from the fact that this could have been posted in the suggestions section I understand your point of view.

The bottom line is evading the chat filter is against the rules. If you do it, you can be reported.

What I say is, don't break the filters, but I am not delusional or Utopian in my thought process, so a caveat to this would be: whether or not you choose to break the filters, you can be reported if you are typing publicly. Be aware of the risk involved and please try to keep the public chat channels clean.

We will ask about such a filter, however for the time being we will have to work with what we have been provided. I never really considered profanity to be a requirement in order for me to get my point across, so no excuse can be given if you do happen to get reported for this.