YES Spider King is a LOW LEVEL quest FIRST

Foxx - Heavens Tear

This is another case of failure on the devs. We've seen it before so many times on various events, where hundreds of players are competing for very limited resources.
I suppose we should be thankful that the bounty hunter quest dont have everyone competing for a single 10 minute spawn.

Quilue - Sanctuary

chelseacrafter wrote: »

Reading comprehension much?

If you have a problem leveling up as fast as you would like take it up with PWI don't take it out on players who get the low level quest & are trying to play the ORIGINALLY INTENDED mini-boss quest at this location.

It's called PRIORITIES. Get some.

...how is it taking it out on players who get the low level quests? anyone who has an oracle gets this low level quest, so your quests are more important than my quests now? what makes you think the original intention was for low levels to get this quest only? if that was the case, how come oracles can be used by any player of any lvl higher than the lvl req?

Tatuaje - Lost City

chelseacrafter wrote: »

Oh yeah great answer... spoil MY game, lose MY exp, & ruin my quest thread just so that higher level players can take over the game & do as they please.

DUH... it's a MINI-BOSS quest... it advances your game so you can get future quests. You can't trash it without ruining your game. It's in blue letters on the quest list. You can't skip mini-bosses. You won't get your FBs later.

Nice try.

Rather than telling ME to deal with hardships in the game why don't YOU deal with the hardship in the game that at higher levels the leveling up gets super slow.

If you have an issue with that take it up with PWI because that is how they made the game. The problem isn't with low levels accepting how things are... it's the FAILURE of the high level players to ACCEPT HOW THINGS ARE.

chelseacrafter wrote: »

Reading comprehension much?

If you have a problem leveling up as fast as you would like take it up with PWI don't take it out on players who get the low level quest & are trying to play the ORIGINALLY INTENDED mini-boss quest at this location.

It's called PRIORITIES. Get some.

Talk about being selfish.

This game is not all about you so b:shutup or get out. The Oracles are for everyone and if there is someone who will not let you get a kill then once again b:shutup or get out.

I don't even know why I am responding to such a whinner. Your stupidy makes me wish you were on a PVP server just so you can get PK'd for your whinnyness (probably not a word..LOL)

Atleast post something worthy of QQing over.

Tatuaje - Lost City

chelseacraft wrote: »

If I wanted hostility & other people in control of my game I would be on a PvP server where animosity is the norm. This behavior has no place on the PvE server. And that goes for the hateful comments about this problem as well. Keep that negativity on PvP where it belongs.

LOL, hostility in PVP only. I bet there is more control in our servers than there is in PVE. (Perhaps some clarification from others on this.)

You are such a noob to think that negativity is only on PVP and I am happy to imagine you will drop from this game soon enough since you are so easily effected by such pety issues.

If you want everything to be about YOU and YOU only then don't play a MMO.

Try not to let the door hit you on the way out when you are Uninstalling the game.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »

LOL, hostility in PVP only. I bet there is more control in our servers than there is in PVE. (Perhaps some clarification from others on this.)

While it's true that there are certain types of anti-social behaviour that benefit from a good-old-fashioned PK behind the woodshed now and then, I think the real issue is that some people will dig deep to find something to complain about, no matter how trivial.

Whether or not you have a server that has only hard-coded rules enforced (PvE) or one in which social rules can also be enforced (PvP) seems more like personal preference to me. The extra freedom of being able to PK other players is offset by the additional socially constructed rules of the PK society. I play on both types of servers and haven't really got a preference.

tweakz

Foxx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This is another case of failure on the devs. We've seen it before so many times on various events, where hundreds of players are competing for very limited resources.
I suppose we should be thankful that the bounty hunter quest dont have everyone competing for a single 10 minute spawn.

Yes, slowed down gameplay = slowed down needs = slowed down sales. Messing with the value of rare items (misty forest / steppenwolf lord's / lion mount) screws them over too now that they're percieved as a risky purchase. Yes, Misty and Steppenwolf's aren't CS items, but they do effect cash shopper's desire for exchanging gold for coin. Now if I could find a comparable game that wasn't so recklessly tampered with.

vampirevane

It's pretty Irresponsable and Fault of Developers to have just 1 spider there, what does it takes like 2 seconds to add 2 or 3 more? Come on. In my opinion they are looking for this to happen, we have been tru like tons of patches since last event, and they didn't bother to add more spiders.. YET they do add all that **** to the cash shop.

truekossy

Saying we should have more spiders so it's like wicked pirate spawn and people don't need to compete as much/waitas long? Great.

Complaining that YOUR oracles/DQs should have priority instead of getting in line or waiting til all the fuss from it dies down? Not so great.

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »

Talk about being selfish.

This game is not all about you so b:shutup or get out. The Oracles are for everyone and if there is someone who will not let you get a kill then once again b:shutup or get out.

I don't even know why I am responding to such a whinner. Your stupidy makes me wish you were on a PVP server just so you can get PK'd for your whinnyness (probably not a word..LOL)

Atleast post something worthy of QQing over.

Do you happen to think your response was any less QQ than his OP? Its easy for YOU to say shut up or get out, but trust me that is not what the GMs, devs, or owners want. Til you own the company and its affecting YOUR pockets I don't see what right you have to say that.

You are responding to said whiner, because you like to whine about people who whine. I've said it before, stupidity isn't a disease; but its sure spreading like one. Anyone who feels an injustice has been done has the right to QQ and to them it is worth QQing over.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »

While it's true that there are certain types of anti-social behaviour that benefit from a good-old-fashioned PK behind the woodshed now and then, I think the real issue is that some people will dig deep to find something to complain about, no matter how trivial.

Whether or not you have a server that has only hard-coded rules enforced (PvE) or one in which social rules can also be enforced (PvP) seems more like personal preference to me. The extra freedom of being able to PK other players is offset by the additional socially constructed rules of the PK society. I play on both types of servers and haven't really got a preference.

This is the main reason I'd so like to roll onto a PvP server. Someone harasses me, I can PK them. Someone irritates me, I can PK them. Either way... really it comes down to the fact ppl are unwilling to wait their turn simply b/c they have a high enough character they don't have to. Therefore, they think they are the **** nit. Karma.. it bites us all.

truekossy wrote: »

Saying we should have more spiders so it's like wicked pirate spawn and people don't need to compete as much/waitas long? Great.

Complaining that YOUR oracles/DQs should have priority instead of getting in line or waiting til all the fuss from it dies down? Not so great.

The OP is not saying that HIS quest should have priority over the oracles per say. Just that the system being utilized is unfair. Some hot little vixen who is well known can take 20 times to kill said spider, while OP or others can't even get 1 time in. Because it is a quest he is there at the required level for the quest. Which means it is going to take him longer than the 4 seconds it takes a lvl 80 doing 100 oracles to kill the monster.
All he's really asking for is some respect in this regard. I've seen it, we've all seen it. Some of you actually DO it. Without little respect and total disregard for other people. It never fails to amaze me at what lengths people will go to, to whine about the fact they feel someone is whining.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

chelseacraft wrote: »

As far as the LINE goes... If you are a popular female player you get 10 to 20 "turns" at the spider before going to the back of the line. Most everyone else is forced by these bully players to kill once & go to the back of the line.

I watched one prima donna girl kill 20 times before she went to the back of the line. Then they yelled at a guy for going twice & threatened to KS him if he tried that again.

I actually haven't used a single oracle this time around. But last time, the line "let" me do as many as I want before doing their own. You have have to know the right words to communicate to the line waiters.

Tatuaje - Lost City

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Do you happen to think your response was any less QQ than his OP? Yes I actually do know it was not QQing so yuo can b:shutup or get out as well. Its easy for YOU to say shut up or get out, but trust me that is not what the GMs, devs, or owners want. Til you own the company and its affecting YOUR pockets I don't see what right you have to say that. Sometimes QQers need to b:shutup or get out when they are whining about stuff that is something that has been happening the whole time in the games history.

You are responding to said whiner, because you like to whine about people who whine. Say what??? I've said it before, stupidity isn't a disease; but its sure spreading like one. Anyone who feels an injustice has been done has the right to QQ and to them it is worth QQing over. When did you become the defender of QQers? b:shutup

Peace out!! b:victory

truekossy

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The OP is not saying that HIS quest should have priority over the oracles per say. Just that the system being utilized is unfair. Some hot little vixen who is well known can take 20 times to kill said spider, while OP or others can't even get 1 time in. Because it is a quest he is there at the required level for the quest. Which means it is going to take him longer than the 4 seconds it takes a lvl 80 doing 100 oracles to kill the monster.
All he's really asking for is some respect in this regard. I've seen it, we've all seen it. Some of you actually DO it. Without little respect and total disregard for other people. It never fails to amaze me at what lengths people will go to, to whine about the fact they feel someone is whining.

That happens in the real world too anyway. Especially with things like clubs and the like? Good looking girl skipping the entire line and getting a free pass in while the guys in line are stuck waiting and get jumped or shoved back if they try to get ahead. Blame the fact that men are silly and take looks at face value even in an online game where there's as much chance of the "girl" they see being a guy as being a real girl. The line itself is a good thing since otherwise lowbies wouldn't get a chance to kill them at all, though. Like poster above me said, if you can communicate with the people waiting well, you can easily get plenty of them at once. Did it before on a lowbi barb, so it's not like gender's the main issue (though it DOES help to have more round pixels b:laugh )

As for your commentary in red... doesn't that apply to you too since you're whining about people whining about people whining?

Piliener - Lost City

It's a DQ quest which is not a required quest. Either ask to squad with an oracle person or just don't do that DQ until the event is over. You know what takes a lot of time out of leveleing and game enjoyment. Making pointless QQ threads about things with easy solutions.

Tatuaje - Lost City

Piliener - Lost City wrote: »

It's a DQ quest which is not a required quest. Either ask to squad with an oracle person or just don't do that DQ until the event is over. You know what takes a lot of time out of leveleing and game enjoyment. Making pointless QQ threads about things with easy solutions.

^---^ This FTW!!!

Starrr - Harshlands

no one said you have to do your oracles now. wait a week instead of wasting your time sitting in a line for hours. as long as the person killing it has oracles to do they are not grieving anyone. they are not breaking any rules. they will never be banned. they are doing their own quest and have just as much right to it as you do. you can try to kill it just as they do. just because they can 1 shot it means you will fail but doesnt mean they are doing anything wrong.

Isala - Sanctuary

Less QQ, more Pew Pew.

In the time it has taken you to whine about the situation, you could have done several other quests, leveled a bit, told a funny joke, read a book, ate a delicious meal, found a significant other, walked down the street, went to the grocery store, waved at a friend, smiled at an elderly woman, walked a pet, washed your car, mowed your lawn, learned a few words of a foreign language, started an autobiography, told your parents you love them, washed some dishes, taken up a hobby, rode a bike, looked at the sky, lie under a tree, or any other of a bajillion things. Instead you're whining, and not playing. You might have had an opening in the line while you were making the original post.

Or, here's an idea, that many other people have suggested. Save the oracles for later. You'll need them at higher levels, and after a while, there aren't going to be as many people there. There might even be none. And then you can blast away to your heart's content. Using oracles at a low level? Sure, you level fast, but you get no money for it, and blow past skill after skill after skill... Using oracles at a higher level? Sure, you don't see levels like you would have, but you gain just as much EXP for it, and don't blow past as many skills, saving you both TIME, and MONEY, and from anyone's point of view, that's a good thing.

Filet - Heavens Tear

chelseacraft wrote: »

The original purpose of Tiger Striped Spider King is as a mini-boss for a low level quest given that requires the player to kill it ONCE. I sincerely do not believe PWI created oracles so that higher level players can exploit them by standing in line in front of weak mini-bosses & owning him in one or two hits OVER & OVER & OVER again.

This entire situation where normal low level questing of the original mini-boss in this instance has been forcibly overtaken by players who can totally dominate the entire area & force lower level players away & prevent them from playing thru is RIDICULOUS & DYSFUNCTIONAL.

It's outrageous that the GMs let this go on. The whole "get in line" thing is a joke. As soon as you get your turn & can't "own" the spider in less than 15 seconds everyone starts yelling & someone KS'es it & you don't get credit & they run you off.

As far as the LINE goes... If you are a popular female player you get 10 to 20 "turns" at the spider before going to the back of the line. Most everyone else is forced by these bully players to kill once & go to the back of the line.

I watched one prima donna girl kill 20 times before she went to the back of the line. Then they yelled at a guy for going twice & threatened to KS him if he tried that again.

IT IS OUT OF CONTROL & HOSTILE toward normal players on PvE who just want to accomplish their normal quests. It took me two solid days of begging, pleading, arguing & trying to find a squad who would deal with that insanity & stand in line only to get yelled at for being a squad.

PWI has created a real problem here between players & then turned their backs on it. Why not remove the mini-boss quest altogether if they want Oracle EXPLOITERS to use it to level up on? It's a very negative experience in the game & everyone is hostile toward the lower level player just trying to do the normal quest.

If I wanted hostility & other people in control of my game I would be on a PvP server where animosity is the norm. This behavior has no place on the PvE server. And that goes for the hateful comments about this problem as well. Keep that negativity on PvP where it belongs.

I agree that high levels shouldn't be ksing and taking 20 turns. But you have to realize oracles are for EVERYBODY. Just because the level requirement is low, does not mean that low levels have exclusive rights to use them. Also how is using a stack of oracles to level exploiting the game? Whoever bought a stack of 400 oracles paid good money for it. Is buying an exp scroll exploiting the game too? Using a ton of oracles isn't a glitch, it isn't hacking, it's saving time at the expense of a ton of money. Just because you can't do an oracle doesn't prevent you from playing through the game. I was in my 30's the last time jolly jones event was on and thanks to all the ksing I only got 1 oracle I done, that didn't prevent me from playing the game. Once again both low levels and high levels using oracles have the same goal in mind, your belief that high levels using oracles to level up is "exploiting" is totally unfounded.

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

truekossy wrote: »

That happens in the real world too anyway. Especially with things like clubs and the like? Good looking girl skipping the entire line and getting a free pass in while the guys in line are stuck waiting and get jumped or shoved back if they try to get ahead. Blame the fact that men are silly and take looks at face value even in an online game where there's as much chance of the "girl" they see being a guy as being a real girl. The line itself is a good thing since otherwise lowbies wouldn't get a chance to kill them at all, though. Like poster above me said, if you can communicate with the people waiting well, you can easily get plenty of them at once. Did it before on a lowbi barb, so it's not like gender's the main issue (though it DOES help to have more round pixels b:laugh )

As for your commentary in red... doesn't that apply to you too since you're whining about people whining about people whining?

No, I merely happen to agree in part about what the OP said. Note: I did not say I agree with it all. If a person has a quest to do, they should be allowed to do it. Its not their fault that there was a JJ event causing a mass of people at the spider king. OP just wants to be able to kill it once and do his quest. Although he could have asked someone doing an oracle to squad with him. But true gamers don't want things handed to them. They want to actually "kill" the spider king as that is what is required of the quest. Simply stating well the person should just squad takes that aspect of the game away from them. I don't think its unreasonable if said person stands in line 20 minutes to kill the same mob, that people should allow him/her to do it without complaint. After all, I'm shocked anyone waits in a line, and some ppl dont.

Filet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I agree that high levels shouldn't be ksing and taking 20 turns. But you have to realize oracles are for EVERYBODY. Just because the level requirement is low, does not mean that low levels have exclusive rights to use them. Also how is using a stack of oracles to level exploiting the game? Whoever bought a stack of 400 oracles paid good money for it. Is buying an exp scroll exploiting the game too? Using a ton of oracles isn't a glitch, it isn't hacking, it's saving time at the expense of a ton of money. Just because you can't do an oracle doesn't prevent you from playing through the game. I was in my 30's the last time jolly jones event was on and thanks to all the ksing I only got 1 oracle I done, that didn't prevent me from playing the game. Once again both low levels and high levels using oracles have the same goal in mind, your belief that high levels using oracles to level up is "exploiting" is totally unfounded.

I agree with this. However; the smarter players are saving theirs for when the event dies down. So that it isn't near as time consuming. Yes, the oracles are for everyone. Even for a modest level 70 player, 10,000 experience is good. However; if it takes you 30 minutes to wait in a line to kill 1 mob that gains you 10k exp you've wasted your time. As you could grind that experience just as quick. Either way... there is a problem the devs need to address.

AND AN FYI ;;;; I am not the defender of QQers! I just think that anyone who has issue with a game they support (even playing is means of support)should be allowed to voice their opinion when they feel an injustice is being done; without the likes of you or anyone else insulting poster with hurls of name calling. DIFFERENCE: its what makes the world go round.

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear

The real problem I think boils down to the OPs attitude. She does come off rather self centered and b.tchy. That means she probably doesn't know how to be nice to people.

The first time I went to do Oracles in my 30s I had got 3 during the last JJ event and I needed one to level up after CS. There was a line of course and I wandered up and asked nicely about the line. Someone from a high level Guild who seemed to be taking charge told me it was X number of Oracles per turn, tell them if it is DQ. If you need help we can take it down for you after the HP is below 50%.

I simply stated "Ok, but I only need to do one." At which point they agreed to move me near the front of the line. I probably waited no more than 5 minutes and during that time I had some interesting conversations. I never asked to be put in front or given special treatment and I didn't know anyone in the line.

So my point to the OP is ... learn how to be nice and others will usually be nice back.

bellaberry

GMs, Please just ADD more Spiders to stop this insanity! If you've read this thread you can see how flawed the quests relating to the spider are and how angry and frustrated it can make for some players.

and I agree with those who have said it in previous posts...it isn't the high or the low level players fault. The game is allowing both parties to go for teh same mini-boss. It's a game design flaw, and really, everyone who is not happy with the way things are should really try to communicate this to the people who run the game instead of the people who plays it.

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The real problem I think boils down to the OPs attitude. She does come off rather self centered and b.tchy. That means she probably doesn't know how to be nice to people.

The first time I went to do Oracles in my 30s I had got 3 during the last JJ event and I needed one to level up after CS. There was a line of course and I wandered up and asked nicely about the line. Someone from a high level Guild who seemed to be taking charge told me it was X number of Oracles per turn, tell them if it is DQ. If you need help we can take it down for you after the HP is below 50%.

I simply stated "Ok, but I only need to do one." At which point they agreed to move me near the front of the line. I probably waited no more than 5 minutes and during that time I had some interesting conversations. I never asked to be put in front or given special treatment and I didn't know anyone in the line.

So my point to the OP is ... learn how to be nice and others will usually be nice back.

I agree OP does come off kinda hostile. But after enduring something so frustrating(as I can imagine)tends to make you a bit hostile. Doesn't mean its right. Yes, the old saying goes you can catch more with honey than you can with vinegar still applies!

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

chelseacrafter wrote: »

Reading comprehension much?

If you have a problem leveling up as fast as you would like take it up with PWI don't take it out on players who get the low level quest & are trying to play the ORIGINALLY INTENDED mini-boss quest at this location.

It's called PRIORITIES. Get some.

Get some anger management before you take this mere game too seriously newb. Your first replies consist of snapping at pple who are replying to you in a non hostile manner.
God knows how you act in person....

If you dont like it dont play, the door is wide open to leave. Priorities? Its a unsaid and of course somewhat unfair priority that pple willing to spend more will get more and faster. Both in lvls and in gear. Its like the real world buddy. You dont see adults stepping aside for kids to line up if a TOYs r us decided their gonna give away 100$ giftcards in the next 5min. limited, assuming TOYS are ORIGINALLY meant for KIDS to play.

Looking at the manner in which you reacted and replied in your first few posts, I highly doubt that you did not try anything that would anger the others in line. There is probably another side to your story that only the spectators of that spider line could tell.

BratFury - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Get some anger management before you take this mere game too seriously newb. Your first replies consist of snapping at pple who are replying to you in a non hostile manner.
God knows how you act in person....

If you dont like it dont play, the door is wide open to leave. Priorities? Its a unsaid and of course somewhat unfair priority that pple willing to spend more will get more and faster. Both in lvls and in gear. Its like the real world buddy. You dont see adults stepping aside for kids to line up if a TOYs r us decided their gonna give away 100$ giftcards in the next 5min. limited, assuming TOYS are ORIGINALLY meant for KIDS to play.

Looking at the manner in which you reacted and replied in your first few posts, I highly doubt that you did not try anything that would anger the others in line. There is probably another side to your story that only the spectators of that spider line could tell.

b:chuckle this is all I could do when I read this b:chuckle

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Looking at the manner in which you reacted and replied in your first few posts, I highly doubt that you did not try anything that would anger the others in line. There is probably another side to your story that only the spectators of that spider line could tell.

I had a cat-shop set up at the Spider King last time there was a Jolly Jones event. Verticoli - one of the most, if not the most, notorious and hated players on Sanctuary - was monopolizing the Spider King and ignoring the countless howls of protest from those waiting in line.

Then along came some random newbie who saw the line and politely asked, "Can you let me kill one?" Vert asked if it was for DQ31 and when the newbie said yes Vert partied with her, killed the Spider King, and then the newbie said thanks and left.

All of this ENRAGED the lineup. They were livid that all their ranting and moral indignation was falling upon deaf ears, yet some unknown newbie was able to gain Verticoli's co-operation without any trouble. So Verticoli went right back to ignoring them. About 10 minutes later another newbie showed up needing DQ31, and once again Vert partied, killed the Spider King, and sent the newbie on his way.

And once again the lineup went apoplectic with rage.

In the end, some PKers showed up and tried to take down Vert, and so the line-up finally got to kill a few Spider Kings. I had to go to bed, but when I left Vert had gone back to killing and the line had gone back to QQing. I'm sure that after I left none of their complaints had any effect whatsoever, but that many a polite newbie got their DQ31 boss just fine.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »

I had a cat-shop set up at the Spider King last time there was a Jolly Jones event. Verticoli - one of the most, if not the most, notorious and hated players on Sanctuary - was monopolizing the Spider King and ignoring the countless howls of protest from those waiting in line.

Then along came some random newbie who saw the line and politely asked, "Can you let me kill one?" Vert asked if it was for DQ31 and when the newbie said yes Vert partied with her, killed the Spider King, and then the newbie said thanks and left.

All of this ENRAGED the lineup. They were livid that all their ranting and moral indignation was falling upon deaf ears, yet some unknown newbie was able to gain Verticoli's co-operation without any trouble. So Verticoli went right back to ignoring them. About 10 minutes later another newbie showed up needing DQ31, and once again Vert partied, killed the Spider King, and sent the newbie on his way.

And once again the lineup went apoplectic with rage.

In the end, some PKers showed up and tried to take down Vert, and so the line-up finally got to kill a few Spider Kings. I had to go to bed, but when I left Vert had gone back to killing and the line had gone back to QQing. I'm sure that after I left none of their complaints had any effect whatsoever, but that many a polite newbie got their DQ31 boss just fine.

The first thing that popped to mind was gangster bosses having a cross somewhere in their possession or going to church once in a while lol

Nerithos - Sanctuary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calogero_Vizzini

'Zat what you meant, deceptistar?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Nerithos - Sanctuary wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calogero_Vizzini

'Zat what you meant, deceptistar?

Naw ;O probably not historical wise.

Ztyx - Dreamweaver

Im sorry but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw

Isaphet - Heavens Tear

chelseacrafter wrote: »

If you have an issue with that take it up with PWI because that is how they made the game. The problem isn't with low levels accepting how things are... it's the FAILURE of the high level players to ACCEPT HOW THINGS ARE.

How things are is how things are, right now that is for people to line up and kill the boss in the way that you are seeing it happen.

This is not opinion, it is fact, it is you who fails to accept how things are.

Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear

Viper_girl - Heavens Tear wrote: »

RPG= RolePlayingGame which does not necessarily mean just killing monsters without wait or hassle.

Furthermore this is an MMORPG which means Massively Multi-player Online RPG. The interaction between RL players which includes players deciding to line up and do all their Oracles at once is part of the game. You can join the line or wait for a better time. Putting everything in instances would detract from the game since there would be little or no interaction with other players in the instance.

If you want no waits just endless Monster killing then play an offline RPG.

The point of all MMORPGs or any game for that matter is to provide the players with a satisfying experience. Name me one, just _one_ person in the entire galaxy who is considering standing in a line to be a satisfying or fun or challenging experience.

I rest my case.