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Kaos - Dreamweaver
Kaos - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
edited June 2009 in General Discussion
When are you planning on releasing a 150-200 dollar anything else for us that aren't veno's so people can stop complaining that veno's are overpowered?b:pleased
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  • kissmeimsingle
    kissmeimsingle Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    LMAO.
    good question!b:chuckle

    I'm guessing you're one of those nubs that think a veno is OP?
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    LMAO.
    good question!b:chuckle

    I'm guessing you're one of those nubs that think a veno is OP?

    Exactly, since anyone with a different opinion to you is obviously a "nub". Course, since I personally believe veno's are ridiculously op in PvE, I'm a nub too ^_^ Jeez, how I wish I could think veno's are balanced and therefore become a better and equal human being. =/
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    LMAO.
    good question!b:chuckle

    I'm guessing you're one of those nubs that think a veno is OP?

    lol... I'm guessing you're a nub that hasn't played much either. b:bye lmao.
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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Venos aren't OP, they still die if their pet dies b:chuckle
    Even if a Veno survives when her pet dies, they aren't OP.

    Meaning of OP?

    -Unkillable

    I'm sure everyone has died (eventually).
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    When are you planning on releasing a 150-200 dollar anything else for us that aren't veno's so people can stop complaining that veno's are overpowered?b:pleased

    They won't.


    And if they do, then everyone is going to start whining about them releasing items that completely threw the game out of whack.


    BTW. creating level 1 alts to post pointless troll threads is soooo yesterday. <.<
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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    They won't.


    And if they do, then everyone is going to start whining about them releasing items that completely threw the game out of whack.

    Yesh, sadly.
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Since when did OP mean invincible?

    It means your class has an unfair advantage over other classes in the game,

    oh noes boutique pets are an unfair advantage.
    oh noes unreduced damage from pets against skull-marked bosses is too.
    oh noes a skill that doesn't have reduced damage in PvP is too.
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  • Death - Harshlands
    Death - Harshlands Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Venos aren't OP, they still die if their pet dies b:chuckle
    Even if a Veno survives when her pet dies, they aren't OP.

    Meaning of OP?

    -Unkillable

    I'm sure everyone has died (eventually).

    OP = Over Powered

    Venos with nixes = Over Powered. Yes, it's true. I'm not QQing, but if you can't readily admit a simple fact, then you're lying or are ignorant.

    Since when did OP = invincible? Getting creative with definitions are we? b:bye
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Since when did OP = invincible?

    You'll be hearing from my attorney.
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  • Maddrox - Harshlands
    Maddrox - Harshlands Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You'll be hearing from my attorney.

    QQ moar ploxb:bye

    When the hell did it become "Invincible"?
    It didn't nubbies
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Did you quote the right poster because thats not making any sense to me >.>
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Since when did OP mean invincible?

    It means your class has an unfair advantage over other classes in the game,

    oh noes boutique pets are an unfair advantage.
    oh noes unreduced damage from pets against skull-marked bosses is too.
    oh noes a skill that doesn't have reduced damage in PvP is too.

    Oh noes, someone is being ridiculous. b:chuckle
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It might just be because I'm awake at 3:05am but nothings making sense to me anymore >.>
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    OP = Over Powered

    Venos with nixes = Over Powered. Yes, it's true. I'm not QQing, but if you can't readily admit a simple fact, then you're lying or are ignorant.

    Since when did OP = invincible? Getting creative with definitions are we? b:bye

    Yes, you are QQing, and no, it isn't true. What is true is that Flesh Ream is the root of the problem.

    Using logical fallicies I see. In case you don't know, that's a false dilemma fallacy. b:victory
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    So what your saying is Flesh ream is OPed but the Veno's that add it to their pets purely to abuse a bug are blameless whereas the ToS says they should be recieving warnings and bans for doing it?

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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Lol >.< When I think of over powered, I think invincible.

    So... the real def:

    Ok, yes they may have an advantage to solo things like TTs.
    And yes, possibly other things.

    However, it depends on the person who is actually playing the veno.

    If you have a veno with a Herc you immediately say, "Oh they are OP". But, if they suck at using the Herc, what is so OP about it?

    I've seen so many epic fails with venos who think they can tank everything with the Herc and saw them fail.

    As for phoneixs so what? It's the flesh realm not the actual bird.

    But I may be misunderstanind you so please explain why you think they are OP.b:thanks
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    Having fun since lv1
    5 more levels baby!
    ^_____^
    {=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )

    I'm for The Cursed!
    pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=656132
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    So what your saying is Flesh ream is OPed but the Veno's that add it to their pets purely to abuse a bug are blameless whereas the ToS says they should be recieving warnings and bans for doing it?

    The night is indeed a confusing time.

    I think that's how hes saying it...

    >.> But isn't that for PvP? And to characters with low health?
    The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
    Having fun since lv1
    5 more levels baby!
    ^_____^
    {=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )

    I'm for The Cursed!
    pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=656132
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    So what your saying is Flesh ream is OPed but the Veno's that add it to their pets purely to abuse a bug are blameless whereas the ToS says they should be recieving warnings and bans for doing it?

    The night is indeed a confusing time.

    Only if it gets established it is abuse, which so far, the main company in China has not said that.
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It's established as a bug, doesn't that make it abuse?
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It's established as a bug, doesn't that make it abuse?

    It is not established.... It has been stated that the PWI GMs have relayed the feelings of the PWI player base to the main company in China. However we never got the answer back if it is working as intended by the Chinese developers or if it is being abused. Just because lot of people scream bug and abuse does not make it so, until the developers in China say so.

    Also, in the Chinese version, at one point, they had "fixed" flesh ream, just to restore it to how we have it a few weeks later.

    There are other skills usage that is boarderline violation of TOS, like Archers Barrage used during Rebirth or Zhenning.
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  • Kalza - Sanctuary
    Kalza - Sanctuary Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    OP = Over Powered

    Venos with nixes = Over Powered. Yes, it's true. I'm not QQing, but if you can't readily admit a simple fact, then you're lying or are ignorant.

    Since when did OP = invincible? Getting creative with definitions are we? b:bye

    ^ true btw robe and la venos die pretty fast with or without a 'nix, but then again not everyone has 10k+ hp.....yet
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    So what your saying is Flesh ream is OPed but the Veno's that add it to their pets purely to abuse a bug are blameless whereas the ToS says they should be recieving warnings and bans for doing it?

    I didn't say anything was OP'd. I said Flesh Ream was the root of the problem.

    Yes, any veno who puts Flesh Ream on their pet is blameless. Doesn't matter why they do so, or what they are going to use the pet for.

    Tell you what, if you really believe it should be a bannable offense, then the next time a veno that has a phoenix attacks you and uses Flesh Ream (or even better a wolfkin or some other pet that comes with Flesh Ream), screen shot it with the bleed effect, and send a ticket in stating they are "abusing a bug".
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Tell you what, if you really believe it should be a bannable offense, then the next time a veno that has a phoenix attacks you and uses Flesh Ream (or even better a wolfkin or some other pet that comes with Flesh Ream), screen shot it with the bleed effect, and send a ticket in stating they are "abusing a bug".

    TECHNICALLY they are.. but devs dont care, it makes em money.
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    TECHNICALLY they are.. but devs dont care, it makes em money.

    You mean like Wizs and Archers using a tricks to continuously casting a skill that should stop as soon as the target mob is killed?
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  • Kaos - Dreamweaver
    Kaos - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2009

    BTW. creating level 1 alts to post pointless troll threads is soooo yesterday. <.<

    I didn't create this thread to troll, I was honestly curious. b:pleased

    Veno's are the only class that have something they can buy from cash shop that only they can use. (Class wise. I'm not talking about gender specific clothes and all that)


    I think this thread should be closed seeing the way it's turning out.
  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    zzzz Its that time of the month again i see
    Quit 100%...and surprised my forum account wasn't banned...yet
  • Kalza - Sanctuary
    Kalza - Sanctuary Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You mean like Wizs and Archers using a tricks to continuously casting a skill that should stop as soon as the target mob is killed?

    Technically if a wiz/archer targets something the game allows them to target and they attack why should the skill stop,anything around the target is side damage *a.o.e* . Aslong as their target doesn't die there's no bug.
    b:mischievous
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    TECHNICALLY they are.. but devs dont care, it makes em money.

    No, they technically are not, and the GMs cannot ban them anyway.


    Want to know why? It's a class skill, and to ban venos for using a class skill they would have to ban every single player that participates in a Zhen party for the same thing.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Technically if a wiz/archer targets something the game allows them to target and they attack why should the skill stop,anything around the target is side damage *a.o.e* . Aslong as their target doesn't die there's no bug.
    b:mischievous

    right....... and the fact that the target cannot be killed does not factor in at all, right? So you making the point why Flesh Ream is working properly, the skill is in game, not only that you can buy it at a NPC to add to a pet, and it comes with some of the pets. Soooo since it is in game and it works in game, it is ok, right?
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    No, they technically are not, and the GMs cannot ban them anyway.


    Want to know why? It's a class skill, and to ban venos for using a class skill they would have to ban every single player that participates in a Zhen party for the same thing.

    so, its not a bug, and nix's bleed skill DOES recieve a pvp damage nerf? this is news to me
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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