Qingzi Advice
Fiolla - Dreamweaver
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I am level 39, just getting to do the fb29 with a group of my friends. We had me, a level 40 BM, a level 29 barb, a level 29 BM, and a level 31 cleric.
We got through most of the dungeon fairly easily bu employing good tactics, but I have NO FREAKING CLUE how we are suppose to kill Qingzi. He slaughtered my golem in a couple of hits, I never had time to heal him. Is there some sort of secret I'm not aware of. I would think a nearly full party should be able to handle their own quest (we really don't like the thought of needing high levels to do our quest for us).
We got through most of the dungeon fairly easily bu employing good tactics, but I have NO FREAKING CLUE how we are suppose to kill Qingzi. He slaughtered my golem in a couple of hits, I never had time to heal him. Is there some sort of secret I'm not aware of. I would think a nearly full party should be able to handle their own quest (we really don't like the thought of needing high levels to do our quest for us).
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Fiolla - Dreamweaver wrote: »Is there some sort of secret I'm not aware of?
Yes, get a higher lvl squad.0 -
venos are no match for barbs with clerics.I was early taught to work as well as play,
My life has been one long, happy holiday;
Full of work and full of play-
I dropped the worry on the way-
And God was good to me everyday.0 -
Well, there would only be room for one more person anyways, as well all need the quest. And we don't want high levels doing our quests for us. Since we all have the quest, we feel we should be able to complete it together.
Also, there was a barb and a cleric, and they didn't last much longer.0 -
Fiolla - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well, there would only be room for one more person anyways, as well all need the quest. And we don't want high levels doing our quests for us. Since we all have the quest, we feel we should be able to complete it together.
Also, there was a barb and a cleric, and they didn't last much longer.
Well, good luck with that. You're really gonna need it. b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AinaMizuako - Sanctuary wrote: »Well, good luck with that. You're really gonna need it. b:surrender
So no one does these quests on their own? Everyone just has higher levels do it for them?0 -
Fiolla - Dreamweaver wrote: »So no one does these quests on their own? Everyone just has higher levels do it for them?
Some do their FB with a same level squad, but generally it takes quite a few hours and lots of deaths. It's not really advisable. My FB19 was done with friends, my FB29 a random squad, and my FB39 with some friend's faction mates (random squad I guess).
I'm not saying this in a mean way, it's just that you're in for a really rough time. I'd advise trying to get some of your friends to level up a bit more before you do it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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With as low as everyone's level is, you will probably be better off letting the barb tank and having an extra cleric to heal him with. Also, HP Charm would be a good investment to make. With as low as your levels are, you will be likely to get a drop, and if not, then you still have something you accomplished, even if it cost you a lot of money.0
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It's easier to tank Qinzi using a ranged pet. His magic ranged damage is a bit less or equal to the physical damage, but he only shoots your pet once ever 4 or 5 seconds, while he gives your pet a hit ever 1 or 2 seconds in melee. Less DPS means it becomes easier to heal pet.
You could consider an eldergoth marksman (lvl 41 i think) or use a cactopod if you happen to have trained it up from lower lvls. Take off special skill (usually bash or toxic mist if it's cacto) by rightclicking it so he won't auto use it and run to boss where he will receive the melee damage instead of the ranged damage. Then just keep healing it and make it hit boss for a minute or 3, then rest of squad can start punching him if they don't use agro pulling skills.0 -
Or instead of a ranged pet, tank it yourself (Assuming you have arcane armor). He will stay at range and continually cast earth magic at you.
Just take it easy with the other dps people, because you will only have your spells to hold agro.
Clerics have always told me its easier to heal doing it this way.0 -
Foxx - Heavens Tear wrote: »Or instead of a ranged pet, tank it yourself (Assuming you have arcane armor). He will stay at range and continually cast earth magic at you.
Just take it easy with the other dps people, because you will only have your spells to hold agro.
Clerics have always told me its easier to heal doing it this way.
^ This works, but make sure your arcane armor is balanced (5 elemental resists) before trying this.. as a number of robe people have wayy lower earth res.0 -
Fiolla - Dreamweaver wrote: »I am level 39, just getting to do the fb29 with a group of my friends. We had me, a level 40 BM, a level 29 barb, a level 29 BM, and a level 31 cleric.
We got through most of the dungeon fairly easily bu employing good tactics, but I have NO FREAKING CLUE how we are suppose to kill Qingzi. He slaughtered my golem in a couple of hits, I never had time to heal him. Is there some sort of secret I'm not aware of. I would think a nearly full party should be able to handle their own quest (we really don't like the thought of needing high levels to do our quest for us).
First of all : CONGRATULATIONS!
No mather what other people will say, having a run with players close to the level of the FB is admirable. ( heck, i wish i could've found that party when I was lev 30 or so b:victory).
I know this way takes longer, and makes the FB run more difficult, but no risk=no gain. Taking some risks with your buddies ---> I am sure that the fun, joy and pleasure will doubled by the feeling of achievement. So good luck!
About the advice part : use a barb as a tank, because your golem is probably not ready for Quingzy. After getting a good barb ( I am still talking about a player close to the level of the squad) use 2 clerics to heal. Will take a lot of iron heart, but it should be fine( btw, they will need plenty of pots). I wasn't there to see what went wrong the first time, so i can't give you a much of an in-depth advice.
I have never tried an arcane tanker, so I won't get into this matter, as I am uncertain. But Breathe is probably right about it! You can try and tank it too.
But why i wouldn't recommend it, is this : Quingzy deals the same damage, being it physical (for a melee tank) or magical (for a magic tank).
Life 336727
Physical Attack 953 - 2223
Magic Attack 953 - 2223
Physical Defence 1481
Magic Defence :
Metal: 917
Wood: 535
Water: 917
Fire: 917
Earth: 1490
Since he deals the same damage, both targets will receive the same amount damage (I am not taking into consideration the Barb's Physical Def or the Veno's Magic Def. because they vary from player to player; since i don't know the Def values of each, I can't calculate. But the Def will play a very important role). So, since both targets receive the same damage=same HP loss, I would choose the one with a bigger HP pool : in this case the barb.
That's just the way i would go for, but you will see for yourself what goes better.
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Magic casts slower than Melee hits; So in the end you take less damage from the magic.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Quinzi can be tanked by robe users who have at least 2500 earth resist. I know I used to tank him on my veno easy when she had the resist and my cleric found it easier to heal as well.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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And yes, I omitted the attack speed, which needs to be taken into consideration also![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Get a mage with stone barrier to tank qingzi....
Heal the mage with cleric.0 -
Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »Get a mage with stone barrier to tank qingzi....
Heal the mage with cleric.
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This is so easy u can't imagine. 1 Character over 50 is all u need period. Shall I refrase? 1 Barb over 50 is all u need. take ur friends along for the ride, but let him aggro. U guys assist. Easy.0
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Try to find 1 or even 2 more venos in the squad to help with healing pet, it would have a greater chance of survival. It might take longer than u would expect but it would most of the time work b:chuckle0
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with my old cleric (lvl 92) i was just a merely support as long as i reached fb69 where i was the main healer, and my lvl70 barb the main tank.
we did it.
assume that every other fb is meant to be done by someone who has at least 10 level more than fb level.
so a lvl 40 barb can think to easily tank qingzi for his bh.
only exception to this is fb19 , we found that lvl20 barb with two cleric can tank the boss.0 -
Killed Qingzi with just a lvl 32 mage and a lvl 31 cleric the other day. It took ages of course, but hey, at least it was easy and we got full drops
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Not quite as successful as mortie: me and a lvl 27 cleric tried this earlier tonight. we got to qingzi (i died a few times xD) but her heals couldn't quite keep up with qingzi's attacks. Considering that this took us almost two hours for what is otherwise a 15-20 minute(right?) bh, there are definitely more efficient ways to go if your goal is a quick bh.
buuutt... we had a lot of fun. so really it's up to you to decide what kind of experience you want ingame.
and like mortie, the drops were better (the mobs anyway, if we'd killed qingzi, he **** well better drop some goods b:laugh )0 -
Qingzi, from what I have heard, is that he has this speed buff at a certain point when fighting him. His attack speed and attack just goes up for a certain amount of time. I soloed fb 29 today on my 41 veno with my Herc, and noticed that my herc started taking alot more damage a little halfway through his hp. I was constantly healing too.....caused me a slight heart attack b:shocked
Anyways, a lvl 39 golem will have trouble with qingzi. It's best that you get a barb with a cleric at those levels to tank. A veno with a free pet will have trouble tanking unless they have good channeling and equipment to support the healing of their tanking pet.0 -
beat Qinzi 20+ times and if you have two clerics and 1+ barbs you'll be fine 0
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Qingzi does a ranged MAGIC attack so a Cleric or Veno Can tank it in their 40s, but they MUST hold agro and need somoene keeping some heals on them.... So, a Veno has a chance, cleric not so much.0
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I tanked my own FB 29, and we did it with a squad who's highest member was 40.
Problem with a barb tanking FB 29 (at level 29) is that even with "maxed for level" alacrity of the beast, you can only cancel every other magical attack from qingzi - so every 20 seconds you're getting hit really hard (veno's magmite pet takes it every 20 seconds, and it had really low mdef as well). He's also got a stun to look out for. For a level 29 barb to tank fb29 successfully and without HP charm, you should bring 2 clerics since one or all of the following will apply:
A) the cleric may not have high enough magic stats (many new players try to distribute points evenly without knowing what their effects are)
level of IHB is low, hence the heals arent as strong as they are at upper levels
C) may still be using lower level weapons (which in turn affect heals also)
Clerics should be competent of course and know what heals to use when (and how to keep mana regenerating). Basically IHB for the main part, but after each magic attack you suffer every 20 seconds, one of them should put one of those "block" heals on you to create a buffer.
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elsewise get a 4x mage, archer, or cleric to tank it
really no need for high level players to do your FB or BH runs. Thats just bunk. Don't ever let anyone tell you different.. psst.. I'll tell you a secret --- they are telling you this for one of two reasons:
A) they are XP mooches (they want to do your FB for some quick xp, nevermind your drops you'd get if you do it with people your level) they are bad players who don't know how to do instances with people their own level. Not their fault really, they may have been led astray by the previous wave of high level players who told them it wasn't possible to do with a squad of their level.
Its a vicious cycle really, and many players never learn to play their class properly due to this.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wizards have to tank this, not barbs, although barbs can tank Qingzi but its safer if the wizard does it. In melee range, Qingzi have a dangerous DPS. This makes quicker kills while the wizard only needing 1 cleric.
Your supposed to have at least 3000 earth resistance to actually tank Qingzi because he is weaker at range.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e134a01af56aabad <-- and these are just whites / rank gear[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool
VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
HA > LA > AR... GG
HA + VIT = win b:bye0 -
I dunno what your talking about I tanked qinqzi on a level 24 barb
with one cleric and that was the tabber. I neither lost aggro or died or had a hp charm. But grats OP thats a feat [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wizards have to tank this, not barbs, although barbs can tank Qingzi but its safer if the wizard does it. In melee range, Qingzi have a dangerous DPS. This makes quicker kills while the wizard only needing 1 cleric.
Your supposed to have at least 3000 earth resistance to actually tank Qingzi because he is weaker at range.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e134a01af56aabad <-- and these are just whites / rank gear
You could probably get a pretty awesome earth res if you hunted up some NPC stuff with just earth resistance (since single res gear has a far higher resistance value for that element). Shard any free sockets with cheap HP shards too and you'd have a wizzy quingzi-tanking-machine.
Cleric does need a decent weapon though, that's pretty important. If it's a stash or fb19 weapon at least shard the best sapphire it can take.0 -
Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wizards have to tank this, not barbs, although barbs can tank Qingzi but its safer if the wizard does it. In melee range, Qingzi have a dangerous DPS. This makes quicker kills while the wizard only needing 1 cleric.
Your supposed to have at least 3000 earth resistance to actually tank Qingzi because he is weaker at range.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e134a01af56aabad <-- and these are just whites / rank gear
How well do you think a psychic with similar resistance could tank Qingzi (since they have white voodoo etc)?0 -
_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »You could probably get a pretty awesome earth res if you hunted up some NPC stuff with just earth resistance (since single res gear has a far higher resistance value for that element). Shard any free sockets with cheap HP shards too and you'd have a wizzy quingzi-tanking-machine.
Cleric does need a decent weapon though, that's pretty important. If it's a stash or fb19 weapon at least shard the best sapphire it can take.
Yeah, that could work out tooStarmanSuper - Harshlands wrote: »How well do you think a psychic with similar resistance could tank Qingzi (since they have white voodoo etc)?
IDK psychics can lose aggro from white voodoo, maybe they can pull it off. But hopefully by then a psychic would be a screenie there. And not overleveled O.O[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool
VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
HA > LA > AR... GG
HA + VIT = win b:bye0
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