Wizards BEing Godly Rumor

Mercenary - Sanctuary
Mercenary - Sanctuary Posts: 20 Arc User
edited May 2009 in Wizard
i keep wondering i guess we all heard about wizards being godly after 90+ or 100+ any 1 has any solid base to belive so?or any idia if its true?or its jsut a rumor?
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    read some posts around, there is one written by a lvl 101 wizzie with some links to duel clips.
    At one moment someone put a link to a gif - ppl said that wizz had 99% channeling reduction. No one seen that guy yet, but there is somewhere a prinscreen with gear on chinese server - someone got up to 82% channeling reduction. Those are extremes indeed, but if u get there, yeah, yout wizzard will be a god in the game. Otherwise will just be on par with every other character.
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  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Wizards **** face 95+
  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    edit: double post
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    wizard arent godly....
    but LA wizards are
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wizard arent godly....
    but LA wizards are

    LA and PvE server? please.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    i went LA for TW
    i didnt like dying in 1 hit
    also a LA wizard in our guild tanked world boss!
    no one wanted to tank it so he did and we suceeded!
    LA is what i recommend if your going to TW a lot. the only thing i noticed is having less mana but thats nothing charms cant dob:victory
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i went LA for TW
    i didnt like dying in 1 hit
    also a LA wizard in our guild tanked world boss!
    no one wanted to tank it so he did and we suceeded!
    LA is what i recommend if your going to TW a lot. the only thing i noticed is having less mana but thats nothing charms cant dob:victory

    #1 Lv55's arent factors in TW
    #2 Stop denying the fact that you do less damage than pure int.
    #3 Wizards are DDs, not tanks.
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Lol'd @ #3.
    There are no pure classes in this game. Try tanking mantavip with barb, "real tank class".
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  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wizard arent godly....
    but LA wizards are

    So you stirred up LA vs Pure drama in this thread...and now have got the anti faction involved. GOOD JOB! THATTA BOY!
  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wizard arent godly....
    but LA wizards are

    Wait, if wizards arent godly, then how can LA wizards be godly? Oh, this post is full of contradiction!
  • Godofdarknes - Lost City
    Godofdarknes - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    Lol'd @ #3.
    There are no pure classes in this game. Try tanking mantavip with barb, "real tank class".

    plz when i was a lv 55 wizard i tanked mantavip and slit and slither(big snake on tai chi island) all i had was another lv 57 cleric with me( slither took a long *** time this way><) so yeah barbs are not the only things that can tank something
  • wnight
    wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    55 Tanking manta? Lies , Lies and guess what? ... Slith 55? ROFL.
    Manta case : Your Resistance will kicks only if mob same lvl as you or lower otherwise damage is Amplified so Manta being 20!! levels higher then you will **** your bottoms even with 4 Clerics on you at same 56-57 level including charms.
    Slith case: Nice story as well : You DON'T have Resistance at all in this case since Tai-Chi Emperor using drain which is NOT element based. It takes 1 tops 2 cast to neutralize mage lvl 60+ even under care of equal level of Cleric.
    Now unless you provide video don't talk ****. The only thing i can think about where you could done that it's on private server with Godly equipment or Weakened mob or with Botton "I Win"b:bye
    In General Wizards are best Nukers ( ignoring rumor about archer being that. there are many reasons to that) unfortunatelly you can feel it very late in game due to really high requirements in order to reach that godly position. Refining bites as hell :(
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    actually i have a job in TW...
    take out catapults
    its kinda hard to do that when archers are 1 shotting you
    so i went LA and im loving it (after getting used to it, i died a bit before nothing zhenning couldnt cover b:chuckle) i think there are only 3 wizards in my guild that is a higher lvl than me:

    Zeratul- 85 LA
    ColdFlash- 82(?) LA
    Lord_Omon - 58 pure

    since zera and cold cant do everything themselves, im often sent into different spots to help out

    i never noticed my damage being lower, i still hit for about the same (100-150 less) but the crit really makes up for it. what used to be a 4 shot as pure is a 2 crit shot and weak/sacrficial assualt mobs are 1 shots if crit

    i checked my resistances (since i still have my arcane armor) i only have 200 less resistance but 600 more pdef. Its not bad if you ask me and mobs only do 50-75 more damage on me (nothing dramatic eh)

    dont mean to force my opinion on anyone, and you dont have to listen but before lvl 90, LA wizards are godly...


    allow me to rephrase
    regular wizards arent gods
    but LA wizards are
    arimasu ka
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    PvP Server;
    LA till 90, pure after.

    PvE server;
    Pure.


    /thread.
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  • Babidi - Heavens Tear
    Babidi - Heavens Tear Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    PvP Server;
    LA till 90, pure after.

    PvE server;
    Pure.


    /thread.

    how are u liking ur switch to pure? big difference? phy def , hp? wat shards u using?b:thanks
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    wnight wrote: »
    55 Tanking manta? Lies , Lies and guess what? ... Slith 55? ROFL.
    Manta case : Your Resistance will kicks only if mob same lvl as you or lower otherwise damage is Amplified so Manta being 20!! levels higher then you will **** your bottoms even with 4 Clerics on you at same 56-57 level including charms.
    Slith case: Nice story as well : You DON'T have Resistance at all in this case since Tai-Chi Emperor using drain which is NOT element based. It takes 1 tops 2 cast to neutralize mage lvl 60+ even under care of equal level of Cleric

    no matter what you're fighting, u have some kind of resist to it. it may not be the best for that level of monster, but it's definitly something. and i know that a maxed water shield, even in the 50s, can probably get the same water defense i have(8k+). and mantavip hits me for 200s.
  • wnight
    wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    "no matter what you're fighting, u have some kind of resist to it. it may not be the best for that level of monster, but it's definitly something. and i know that a maxed water shield, even in the 50s, can probably get the same water defense i have(8k+). and mantavip hits me for 200s."

    200d is true for 8k when you're equal or higher then mob. I did tried with 2Clerics(same level) on me when i was 63 with same 9k Water Def and it did hell not 200 but ~800d each hit , guess the meaning when your life barely over 1k by that time ? b:surrender
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    tell your clerics to l2purify. his debuff puts me at 40 water resist.
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Also, buy some single-resist water robes in the AH. At this point I can get over 16k water def fully buffed vs manta. Then his debuff hits and that drops to about 8k. I had no problem tanking him at 60 when I got the quest, I can't imagine a few levels lower making a huge difference.
  • Piliener - Lost City
    Piliener - Lost City Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    PvE LA = Pointless
    PvP LA = good for low lvls
    Get your channeling time down and you will see a difference in both. If you can chain cast all your spells with essentially no channel who cares if you can take a hit.
    Spoons you will forever be missed in this community
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    if i restat to pure at lvl 90 i am going for some -channeling gear. until then im getting crit% stuff and its really cheap. got a ring for 550k and the rank ring is really nice. i also have more HP and loving it. i understand the difference between pure and LA since i restatted a experience both at the same lvl. im just saying LA wizards are really good in TW (pre-90) and if i do make the decision to stay LA i might go hell instead of heaven
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • fluwerbas
    fluwerbas Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Yes we are...http://www.youtube.com/user/t24nD0m b:victory
  • Snakedoctor - Harshlands
    Snakedoctor - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    wnight wrote: »
    55 Tanking manta? Lies , Lies and guess what? ... Slith 55? ROFL.
    Manta case : Your Resistance will kicks only if mob same lvl as you or lower otherwise damage is Amplified so Manta being 20!! levels higher then you will **** your bottoms even with 4 Clerics on you at same 56-57 level including charms.
    Slith case: Nice story as well : You DON'T have Resistance at all in this case since Tai-Chi Emperor using drain which is NOT element based. It takes 1 tops 2 cast to neutralize mage lvl 60+ even under care of equal level of Cleric.
    Now unless you provide video don't talk ****. The only thing i can think about where you could done that it's on private server with Godly equipment or Weakened mob or with Botton "I Win"b:bye
    In General Wizards are best Nukers ( ignoring rumor about archer being that. there are many reasons to that) unfortunatelly you can feel it very late in game due to really high requirements in order to reach that godly position. Refining bites as hell :(

    I tanked Manta/Slith in my high 50s on my other wiz and have healed many wiz's in the high 50s low 60s on my cleric on the same mobs. Sounds like you are just fail.
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Babidi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    how are u liking ur switch to pure? big difference? phy def , hp? wat shards u using?b:thanks

    Not a huge diff, big damage difference though, especially with ults/sparks. My survivability is better, my pdef is about 5-7% lower and my mdef rose by about 15. My gear is only +3 though with 2 g6 pdef shards in each (1 g6 hp in each my top and leggings).

    Self buffed I have 3.7k pdef 3.7k hp and 7k mdef, which is decent, and it'll only get better as I + my gear. I'm an actual DD now b:pleased
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  • Ashen - Dreamweaver
    Ashen - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    read some posts around, there is one written by a lvl 101 wizzie with some links to duel clips.
    At one moment someone put a link to a gif - ppl said that wizz had 99% channeling reduction. No one seen that guy yet, but there is somewhere a prinscreen with gear on chinese server - someone got up to 82% channeling reduction. Those are extremes indeed, but if u get there, yeah, yout wizzard will be a god in the game. Otherwise will just be on par with every other character.

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  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    fluwerbas wrote: »
    Yes we are...http://www.youtube.com/user/t24nD0m b:victory

    Lame private server...lol. It's hard to gauge how pvp is gonna be endgame from them. Everyone has godly stats because they are in full +12 mold armor and rank 8 gear. So even a wiz will seem tough.
  • fluwerbas
    fluwerbas Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    Lame private server...lol. It's hard to gauge how pvp is gonna be endgame from them. Everyone has godly stats because they are in full +12 mold armor and rank 8 gear. So even a wiz will seem tough.
    Exactly the point what U dont realize is that the wizard in the video is fighting people with +12 gear its not just him who has +12 gear b:shockedb:shocked like people with level 100 zerk axes+12 or lvl139 crossbow +12, still cant kill him or outdmg him..
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    fluwerbas wrote: »
    Yes we are...http://www.youtube.com/user/t24nD0m b:victory

    Failed attempt to overrate wizards, all I see is a random guy lvl 150 with over 14k hp and all he does is shotting some spells, where is the godly part? Plus he almost rarely gets hit, i didn't even see a stun all I saw was some fancy spells and a couple of hits on him, nothing to show there..
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  • missqq
    missqq Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    private server players dont know how to effectively use their class to their advantage
  • DishyWiggles - Harshlands
    DishyWiggles - Harshlands Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Ok, I have no experience with 60+ PvP, but I do know that I've seen PvP wars and alot of 1v1 vs other classes. LA mages die just as fast. Aedus (lvl 72 BM) vs DragonSlayer(8x+ with Undine strike)((LA)) Aedus stunned him and killed him before the first stun was over. DragonSlayer has pretty
    good gear, and he died FAST.


    From what ive seen, Pure mages usually stay back and nuke ^^. I was watching a PK war and i saw one wiz casting ice dragon and BOOM like 4 people died and like 5 others got their charm ticked pretty bad.


    Im sure survivability is a big part, but just watch yourself and dont let people sneak up on you, and if they do OH NOES go back to town, go back, and kill them. Mages have a HUGE advantage when the target isnt targeting them alrdy.

    In TW, mages are nukers that accept that they are going to die before/right after they actually cast the spell, but also know they will take quite a few out at the same time.

    Edit: NEW AVATAR ^^ lol

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