Lower levels getting treated badly!!

Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear

The oracles will be in your bank 3 years from now still, they are not going anywhere.

you're never going to tell a lvl 90 to back off when ur just lvl 30, wiat it out and do your oracles later when the hype is gone.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear

dieseasily wrote: »

To be "Sinless" in YOUR religion is to be perfect. Please stop forcing your religion on me. I never claimed to be perfect, just joked that since I have no religion, I have no "sin". Sin is a religious term that does not apply to those without religion.

In terms you can understand :: Oh waite, your religious. You will never understand.

I'm an atheist.


Do I need to be of a certain religion to get something useful out of what an important philosopher said 2000 years ago?

surtr

Let's move off the topic of religion, please.

Elvenhawk - Heavens Tear

Shota - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Posts like this confuse me. Torm should "let" you get your quests done? Why not you "let" her get hers done? Who gets to decide whose quests get priority? The perspective changes based on who is accomplishing their goals and who isn't.

i'm not saying that KSing is right or wrong, I won't touch that one. I just don't see the logic behind "Let everyone else go first or else it isn't fair."

If you read the quote properly it says let us get ours done ASWELL. ASWELL means ASWELL not ours first i not once said let us go first so please read it PROPERLY before you comment

darthpanda16

See Surtr's post. Move along, nothing to see here b:pleased

dieseasily

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm an atheist.


Do I need to be of a certain religion to get something useful out of what an important philosopher said 2000 years ago?

To qoute a book editor explaining Boswells quote of Samual Johnson's comment based on a comment from countless other sources, no one knows for sure who said it first...

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You are an atheist and you still argue about the word sin? Atheist or not you still missed the point of my post. It was a joke. A play on the word itself. But seeing as you have completly missed the point of my post I will explain it in detail for you. Torm made comments that because he is lvl 90 he can and will do what ever he wants, regardless of the other players feelings on the subject. His reply was simply that because he can, the rules set by other players do not apply to him. Someone made a comment about how it was a shame that we could not stone him for his actions. You then posted your comment "Let he without sin cast the first stone." I took Torms own attitude and applied it accordingly. I was mearly using a little bit of whitty humor to show that no matter how good your intentions are, there will always be someone who can use those good intentions to pave a road to hell.

So it goes like this

players make a rule - Form a line = Good intention
Torm break a rule - 'I can because I am different' = paving a road to hell
You make a rule - 'You have sin so no Stones' = Good Intention
I Break your rule - 'I can because I am different' = paving the road to hell.

Are you seeing the humor in this yet? Or are you still stuck on trying to explain what a sin is when really it had nothing to do with what a sin is to begin with?

Gasoline - Lost City

Elvenhawk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There has to be something sorted about these oracle bosses. I was at the spider king yesterday and there was a line which i believe is a good resolution. Everyone in line was chatting and having a laugh then killing when it was there turn but then high levels from ENRAGE come a long and just start killing the spider easily 30 times and not letting anyone else have a turn. I know that there is no rule to say you have to stay in line but a line works fair for lower levels. We want to play the game too and there is no way we can out damage a level 93 bm (not naming names TORM) Its just not fair to levels like 30+ when they want exp aswell. This has to be the fourth time ive been in line when someone from ENRAGE has come along and done this, and im not saying all enrage are idiots because im not its just everytime its happened its been someone from that guild and i think lower levels shud get a fair chance to kill the spider aswell.

Its a competitive game...
Why would a lvl 90+ stand nicely and wait for a bunch of lvl 30 that needs like 10 min each to kill the spider? He can just go up and 1 shoot the boss a couple of times and and get it over with.

The boss aint going anywhere, dont get ppl complaining about ks-ing since they can go kill the boss after event with 0 line.
Its not that hard to out dmg a lvl 93 BM anyway, unless he has highly refined GX b:surrender

Ethree - Lost City

petrol b:mischievous

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear

dieseasily wrote: »

*snipped*

The admins said stop talking about the subject.


Please read their posts. b:bye

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

ok i have an idea: what if the offender gets 1 week of red name?

Hisui - Heavens Tear

thats like awarding them one week of looking badass.

Zoe - Heavens Tear

How about they start dropping their gear randomly for no reason and they are not able to pick it up after that.

Pandaberr - Lost City

That IS funny. In the Lost City server. There were 7 people in line. 3 of them red-named, so they've obviously killed a good amount of people. AND EVERYBODY LET ME HAVE THE DROPS. Unless it was good. I mean coin, and stupid DQ stuff. Funny we're playing nice in our sandbox, sounds like yours sucks.

XBaelx - Lost City

ha ha all these Enraged losers with there big talk on a PVE server...

Love to see them survive in a PVP server your jokes and you'll always be jokes KS nubs and be so proud then go to school and get beaten up as you usually do lol

And for similar people like you See Ragequit on lost City oh you cant they are gone because they were losers like Enraged on a real server that fought back...

haha

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear

Zzzzz more send the big bad pve pkers to pk server so they'll get their asses kicked statements.

Shota - Heavens Tear

darthpanda16 wrote: »

See Surtr's post. Move along, nothing to see here b:pleased

I read your post properly, and I stand by my follow-up questions. How do you decide what is "fair"? Are we going to just assume that taking turns is "fair"? Is it 1 per person? Do we factor in how long one can stay online? If you can stay online 10 hours and I can only stay one, do I get 10 kills to your one? I mean, it's not "fair" that you can be online longer than I can today.

Fair is a place people go to ride on rides and eat cotton candy. By what standard do you measure fair?

Now you can flame if you want, but I don't hog the spawn and have a good time sharing the spawn area for the Oracle 3's. I don't do it out of fairness. I have been there when those more powerful than I made it difficult for me to get a kill. I never complained about fair, I either worked harder and made it a challenge, or I left and came back.

Now if the oracle scrolls expired or had to be done in a short period of time, I would be more apt to agree with the whole concept of being "fair", but those scrolls will last as long as you have your account. There is no urgent need for anyone to complete them now other than personal desire. Since nobody has anything to lose I don't see the issue.

I think it's really sweet when people share, but I don't think they're a lower lifeform if they don't. There are, and should be, perks to having dedicated the time and money to being more powerful. The question is how one uses that power.

Hisui - Heavens Tear

XBaelx - Lost City wrote: »

ha ha all these Enraged losers with there big talk on a PVE server...

Love to see them survive in a PVP server your jokes and you'll always be jokes KS nubs and be so proud then go to school and get beaten up as you usually do lol

And for similar people like you See Ragequit on lost City oh you cant they are gone because they were losers like Enraged on a real server that fought back...

haha

I dont know why ppl like to compare us to RageQuit.

RageQuit likes drama. Enrage just likes to pew pew.
RageQuit hits everybody. Enrage just hits the ppl who choose to go white name.
RageQuit likes to make alliances. Enrage likes to vs the entire server.
RageQuit is made out of lower level players comparatively to the server. Enrage has many of HT's high levels.
RageQuit's leader is arrogant and doesnt give a ****. Enrage's leader is probably the most tame in the guild.
RageQuit is a based off a core group of players. Enrage is a collection.
RageQuit was never the strongest pk guild, just the bravest. Enrage can outnumber any other guilds 3 to 1 in pk wars in 2 mins flat.

And most importantly, RQ failed. Enrage has not and will not.

doremi12

Easy way to do.

Everytime Enrage do that, screenshoot and post on this fourm. Make sure we have his name highlighted. We will reward these PK carebear big time for harassment and disturbing game peace.

No mercy on these enragean cus we going to AION mu ha ha

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225472

Deal with it.

L.M.F.A.O.
F*ck I was laughin at this post at work when my coworker walked by.
Quote my co-worker reading that post, "He's more delusional than my momma on meds."

Then we were talking more and came to the conclusion that if you were content in real life (aka successful) you most likely wouldnt be like making rules like that. The game is practically a fantasy place where achieving the things you lack in RL can be pretty much done in game by legal(?) force and money. (well basically just money and a bunch of pple, hurray for casinos!)
Thats a sad sad post from where I see it.

Hisui - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And most importantly, RQ failed. Enrage has not and will not.

Ignorance is, in this case, PURE bliss b:chuckle
Even when 5000 year old cultures ultimately came to their end, I dont know what gives a faction less than 1year old this confidence lol.
Hope they dont hire pple like this for a meeting spokesperson b:shutup

XAsch - Sanctuary

Getting called a noob hurts? Wow, sice when?

Solandri - Heavens Tear

Shota - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I read your post properly, and I stand by my follow-up questions. How do you decide what is "fair"? Are we going to just assume that taking turns is "fair"? Is it 1 per person? Do we factor in how long one can stay online? If you can stay online 10 hours and I can only stay one, do I get 10 kills to your one? I mean, it's not "fair" that you can be online longer than I can today.

I would think what's "fair" should be obvious - every person waits the same amount of time to get each oracle done. The problem (or non-problem as it were) is that this game isn't meant to be fair. People can be fair out of politeness (or fear as on the PvP servers). But there's nothing in the game design which requires you to be fair in this type of situation.

Personally I despise what Torm did, but only because it shows a lack of respect for your fellow human beings. Not because it violates any of the rules of the game. Just take solance in knowing that people with that sort of personality tend not to get very far in life (nobody likes nor trusts them). There's an inverse relationship between your real-life commitments and responsibility, and your character's level in this game. Someone who sits in their parents' basement playing the game all day is going to be much higher level than someone with a successful job, family, and kids and all the responsibilities that come along with that.

This is pretty unavoidable in any game with a high time requirement, so it's inevitable that a higher proportion of the high-level people will be immature and/or jerks in RL. Ironically, the exp and items you can buy for real $$$ via the cash shop that some people were complaining about as "unfair" actually help level the playing field.

If you're looking for a "fair" solution, I'd say the easiest is probably just to scale the quest's exp based on the character's level. If a level 30 character does a level 30 quest, then they should get full exp. If a level 90 character does a level 30 quest, then just like green mobs give reduced exp because they're so easy, the quest should give them reduced exp. Encourages the level 90 folks to do the level 90 quests, instead of camping the level 30 quests so none of the level 30s can do it.

sekmetstouch

Well said Solandri and I wholeheartedly agree.

As for the Guild issue well Guilds are Guilds and there's always a bad apple to spoil the bunch, it's part of RL and Games. Just ignore and move on.

Oh, and to certain people on the PVP servers, I've played on them and you know what? Here's a little known fact: PVP Servers aren't as organized as you say. You're just chaotic messes that lose players to the PVE servers easily since you have no self control. ( I've Played several PVP games worse then some you've mentioned here in forums). Get off your high horses because in the end your not all that.

XAsch - Sanctuary

Can somebody please call me a noob? I'm curious to see how much this dreaded word hurts.

Wait, lemme go buy some GAs, and put on some protective gear.

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Ok, go, shoot with all ya got. b:chuckle

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

XAsch - Sanctuary wrote: »

Can somebody please call me a noob? I'm curious to see how much this dreaded word hurts.

Wait, lemme go buy some GAs, and put on some protective gear.

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Ok, go, shoot with all ya got. b:chuckle

>_>
<_<
.....*shoots with a telephone bill instead* >_> pew pew

wraithxxx

Torm - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I will not wait in line,
I will kill steal you
I will get my own oracles done
I will laugh heartily when you write a slanderous thread that is not true
I will laugh more when you keep QQing because I dont get in trouble, because i did nothing wrong.
Have fun noob.

And I thought there were no cool people in HT. I like this guy b:cool

If you're a lowbie and you can't kill the mobs you wanna kill, stop your QQ and go level. The higher levels earned their ability to kill faster than you nubs by LEVELING! Btw, I frequently go and kill everyone at the boss spawns because the whole waiting in line thing is so carebear... You need something done? **** everyone else, it's a game, if you're better than everyone else there then guess what, you've earned the privilege to go kill the boss and whipe anyone who opposed you doing so.

wraithxxx

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally I despise what Torm did, but only because it shows a lack of respect for your fellow human beings.

It's a game, go talk about respect with your parents. In a game, the better player wins. Suggesting that the higher levels let the lower levels have a turn is like saying, "Oh you always win, would you mind letting me win once?" The idea is stupid.

sekmetstouch wrote: »

Well said Solandri and I wholeheartedly agree.

As for the Guild issue well Guilds are Guilds and there's always a bad apple to spoil the bunch, it's part of RL and Games. Just ignore and move on.

Oh, and to certain people on the PVP servers, I've played on them and you know what? Here's a little known fact: PVP Servers aren't as organized as you say. You're just chaotic messes that lose players to the PVE servers easily since you have no self control. ( I've Played several PVP games worse then some you've mentioned here in forums). Get off your high horses because in the end your not all that.

The PvP server requires more organization due to mass world PvP and the need to be on your toes constantly because of the random pk. Therefore, your opinion is completely invalid. *Hops back on my high horse and tramples over you back to my PvP server*

XPapewaiox - Lost City

Hisui - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I dont know why ppl like to compare us to RageQuit.

RageQuit likes drama. Enrage just likes to pew pew.
RageQuit hits everybody. Enrage just hits the ppl who choose to go white name.
RageQuit likes to make alliances. Enrage likes to vs the entire server.
RageQuit is made out of lower level players comparatively to the server. Enrage has many of HT's high levels.
RageQuit's leader is arrogant and doesnt give a ****. Enrage's leader is probably the most tame in the guild.
RageQuit is a based off a core group of players. Enrage is a collection.
RageQuit was never the strongest pk guild, just the bravest. Enrage can outnumber any other guilds 3 to 1 in pk wars in 2 mins flat.

And most importantly, RQ failed. Enrage has not and will not.

1. Is correct.
2. Is not correct, RQ only hits white names, just like you.
3. Is NOT correct, afaik, RQ has no current alliances.
4. RQ is sitting on something like 90 people, all 7x and above. They have 10ish 9x. That's not comparatively low level.
5. OK, you're leader's a wuss, who cares?
6. OK, you can't organize, who cares?
7. Please name a PK guild stronger than RQ to prove this point.
8. What do you mean RQ failed? Just because they have no land? That means every guild on LC is going to final but CQ.

Sorry, you logic is at best flawed and ignorant, at worst stupid and purposefully misleading. Don't call yourself a PvP guild when you're on a tea-party server. It just makes you look silly.

sekmetstouch

The PvP server requires more organization due to mass world PvP and the need to be on your toes constantly because of the random pk. Therefore, your opinion is completely invalid. *Hops back on my high horse and tramples over you back to my PvP server*[/QUOTE]

You have to worry on 2 fronts..monsters and Players thus making it chatioc in monster/boss zones .. thus creating your own chaos. Therefore, you have no organization, just random PK as you yourself stated. Makes my point pretty valid.


Oops did that thud mean you fell off your high horse?

b:laugh

dieseasily

wraithxxx wrote: »

And I thought there were no cool people in HT. I like this guy b:cool

If you're a lowbie and you can't kill the mobs you wanna kill, stop your QQ and go level. The higher levels earned their ability to kill faster than you nubs by LEVELING! Btw, I frequently go and kill everyone at the boss spawns because the whole waiting in line thing is so carebear... You need something done? **** everyone else, it's a game, if you're better than everyone else there then guess what, you've earned the privilege to go kill the boss and whipe anyone who opposed you doing so.

Yet another person who takes the "its just a game" attitude to excuse themselves for acting like a jerk.

This is not just a game. It is a virtual community. The other players you see are more then a bunch of pixels on your screen. They are real people with real feelings, and they deserved to be treated with the same respect you would give any other person in your day to day life.

Qwentomec - Heavens Tear

dieseasily wrote: »

Yet another person who takes the "its just a game" attitude to excuse themselves for acting like a jerk.

This is not just a game. It is a virtual community. The other players you see are more then a bunch of pixels on your screen. They are real people with real feelings, and they deserved to be treated with the same respect you would give any other person in your day to day life.

I agree, and I'm going to get flamed any minute now >.>

Meh.