Which TT is the most profitable to solo?

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blindeyesniper
blindeyesniper Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Venomancer
About to reach lvl 76 with a Herc which means I can solo TT1-3 soon. I heard it will take 2 subs but don't know if it's actually worth doing. At least with TT2-1, you have a chance to get gold mats.
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  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    yeah ..

    theres definitely a chance :
    General Wurlord Chance to drop on solo mode 0.3333

    So .. keep trying.

    Most profitable ???

    I prefere to do squad mode with my friends.. much more enjoyable. and many things to drop (Even if i can solo most of bosses up to 1-3)
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

    Rules= Know your enemy (players and NPCs) gives you more chances to survive.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    I've done 1-3 squad on my own 4 times. 2 times I got Ancient Serpents Orb. Yay for gold mats.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    I prefer doing 1-2 squad mode, quick and painless, plus theres a pretty nice market for TT70 mats right now, on HT anyways.
  • blindeyesniper
    blindeyesniper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I've done 1-3 squad on my own 4 times. 2 times I got Ancient Serpents Orb. Yay for gold mats.

    For those doing TT's in squad mode, are you soloing them or did you have a squad with you?
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    blindeyesniper wrote: »
    For those doing TT's in squad mode, are you soloing them or did you have a squad with you?
    I just have guildies open the door and solo them.

    I've done 1-3 about 5 or 6 times, but the mats are harder to sell, not enough buyers(and never got a gold mat either b:sad)
  • Misc - Heavens Tear
    Misc - Heavens Tear Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I've done 1-3 squad on my own 4 times. 2 times I got Ancient Serpents Orb. Yay for gold mats.

    What's your solution to Drum's AOE?
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Misc - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    What's your solution to Drum's AOE?
    Foxform + use potions, or bring a cleric friend/alt. That's how I do it, though I'm light armor so it hits less then on a rober.
  • Misc - Heavens Tear
    Misc - Heavens Tear Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Unfortunately the foxform bonus is a % of your normal pDef, so with arcane armor you still end up with pretty poor pDef, and respeccing doesnt suit my AOE grinding.
    I've got a feeling 2800hp and pDef 750 aren't enough for drum 1-3 or even drum 1-2 without a cleric. (who I would prefer not to have to share loot with)
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Misc - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Unfortunately the foxform bonus is a % of your normal pDef, so with arcane armor you still end up with pretty poor pDef, and respeccing doesnt suit my AOE grinding.
    I've got a feeling 2800hp and pDef 750 aren't enough for drum 1-3 or even drum 1-2 without a cleric. (who I would prefer not to have to share loot with)
    Then tbh, your best bet is to skip drummer.
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I've done 1-3 squad on my own 4 times. 2 times I got Ancient Serpents Orb. Yay for gold mats.

    How long does that take? Assuming you're taking your time not to get killed running through the dungeon solo.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Takes me 3 hours at the minimum. Skipping Lord of Percussion and Soulbanisher of course.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Obsessed - Heavens Tear
    Obsessed - Heavens Tear Posts: 670 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    1-3 took me 2h 50mins just now, and I did Percussion, skipped Soulbanisher.
  • xtinct23
    xtinct23 Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Reivi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yeah ..

    theres definitely a chance :
    General Wurlord Chance to drop on solo mode 0.3333

    So .. keep trying.

    Most profitable ???

    I prefere to do squad mode with my friends.. much more enjoyable. and many things to drop (Even if i can solo most of bosses up to 1-3)

    And you pulled that .3333% from where? Lemme guess PW Database which is incredilby accurate b:chuckle

    I've gotten a gold mat on solo from him and I've made many millions in solo mode from him alone with the Forshura's Armor. To top it off, it takes 15-20 minutes for the whole run.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    xtinct23 wrote: »
    And you pulled that .3333% from where? Lemme guess PW Database which is incredilby accurate b:chuckle

    I've gotten a gold mat on solo from him and I've made many millions in solo mode from him alone with the Forshura's Armor. To top it off, it takes 15-20 minutes for the whole run.

    According to the PWI database:

    Forshura's Black Orb has adrop rate of .3333%/.9966%. (default/actual)


    Forshura's Armor has a 16.666&%/42.1297% drop rate (default/actual).


    I'm going to guess that the Black Orb is the gold matt that was referred to earlier, and it explains why you've gotten so many Forsura's Armor drops.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Dunno about TT, but pwdatase's drop rate for FB bosses has been too high in my experience. I think there's a separate chance for a dropped "item" to be coins with FB bosses, which pwdatabase does not take into account in its "actual drop rate" figure.

    And yes, I'm ignoring the times when the drops are coin-only. When we get item drops, the number of drops seems pretty consistent for each boss (although slightly different from what's listed in pwdatabase). But a significant portion of those are coins, not items.
  • blindeyesniper
    blindeyesniper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
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    Is it possible for a level 76 pure mage veno solo TT1-2 and TT1-3 squad mode? How long do they take? I have a Herc of same level. Which boss should I skip?
  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    I have run a couple TT1-2 in party and the drum bosses aoe is definately a physical attack. If you are mage build it will hit you hard. Probably not quite 1 hit you but close. My heavy armor build enables me to take a few pots during battle and do just fine, but it also gimps my pet heal so I need a second veno to heal pet. Second veno=mage=dead...needs a cleric. Might try again when I reach 73 and have leveled pet heal. I suspect that those arcane/light venos who can solo the party 1-2 are higher level, probably 75-80.
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  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    blindeyesniper wrote: »
    Is it possible for a level 76 pure mage veno solo TT1-2 and TT1-3 squad mode? How long do they take? I have a Herc of same level. Which boss should I skip?

    I soloed squad 1-2 at 71. Skipped soulbanisher and lord of precussion.
  • Ashuransteel - Sanctuary
    Ashuransteel - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    blindeyesniper wrote: »
    I heard it will take 2 subs but don't know if it's actually worth doing. At least with TT2-1, you have a chance to get gold mats.

    1-3 drops apoc pages and gold mats at a better rate,
    and...

    Only takes one sub

    i do it in about 2 hours even with a herc with phoenix's claw skill, skipping soul banisher and drummer, its really not that hard, youll just have to spam heal alot more on the snake because his magic hits way harder.

    2-1 and 2-2 are definitely not profitable, as if youre not properly equipped you skip about 75% of the -good- bosses :|
  • khalamo21
    khalamo21 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    I found 2-1 more profitable than 1-2. Never tried 1-3 and was wondering if at lvl 76 i can solo that?
  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    Did a little calculation of the first 4 solo TTs
    The data comes from PWdatabase so not 100% sure. My own survey is ongoing but so far supports these figures. Prices are very ballpark since server, time, demand, etc will change things considerably. The drop rate is calculated from the default drop rate and multiplied by 3 (3 drops in solo TT).
    Here is the first:

    TT1-1 SINGLE (Chronol) LVL 60+
    Chintien....................Aprox Value..........Drop Rate (%)....X3 (%)...Avg Profit
    Chintiens Edge..............60000....................16.67..............50.........30000
    Mirage..........................23000....................43.33.............130........29900
    Piece of Skeleton............800......................33.33.............100..........800
    Crusade Orders............30000......................6.67..............20..........6000
    Lord of Percussion
    Broken Drum................80000....................16.67.............50..........40000
    Mirage..........................23000....................43.33............130.........29900
    Piece of Skeleton............800.......................33.33...........100...........800
    Crusade Orders............30000......................6.67..............20..........6000
    Misc MOB Drops.............................................................................15000
    1 Ultimate Substance.....................................................................75000
    TOTAL AVERAGE VALUE PER RUN THRU TT1-1 SINGLE............83400
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  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    TT1-2 SINGLE (Dimensic) LVL 68+
    Chintien........................Aprox Value....Drop Rate (%)....X3 (%)....Avg Profit
    Chintiens Armor Shard.......8000...............16.67...............50...........4000
    Mirage.............................23000.............43.33...............130.........29900
    Mysterious Skull................1000..............33.33...............100..........1000
    Crusade Orders................30000..............6.67.................20..........6000
    Lord of Percussion
    Framework of Drum.......150000...........16.67.................50...........75000
    Mirage.............................23000............43.33................130.........29900
    Mysterious Skull................1000.............33.33................100..........1000
    Crusade Orders................30000.............6.67..................20...........6000
    Misc MOB Drops.............................................................................15000
    1 Ultimate Substance......................................................................75000
    TOTAL AVERAGE VALUE PER RUN THRU TT1-1 SINGLE............92800
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  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    TT1-3 SINGLE (Substancia) LVL76+
    Chintien....................Aprox Value...Drop Rate (%)...X3 (%)...Avg Profit
    Chins Plate...................25000.............16.67.............50.........12500
    Mirage.........................23000.............43.33............130........29900
    Klunky Sword...............1000...............33.33...........100.........1000
    Crusade Orders...........30000...............6.67..............20.........6000
    Lord of Percussion
    War Drum...................370000...........16.67.............50........185000
    Mirage.........................23000.............43.33...........130........29900
    Klunky Sword...............1000..............33.33...........100.........1000
    Crusade Orders...........30000..............6.67..............20..........6000
    Misc MOB Drops...................................................................15000
    2 Ultimate Substance...........................................................150000
    TOTAL AVERAGE VALUE PER RUN THRU TT1-1 SINGLE......136300
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  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    TT2-1 SINGLE (Substancia) LVL74+
    Fataliqua.....................Aprox Value...Drop Rate (%)...X3 (%)...Avg Profit
    Frenzy Lions Skin............8000.............16.67..............50...........4000
    Mirage...........................23000............43.33.............130.........29900
    Mysterious Skull..............1000.............33.33.............100..........1000
    Crusade Orders.............30000..............6.67...............20...........6000
    General Wurlord
    Forshura's Armor..........400000...........16.67..............50.........200000
    Mirage...........................23000............43.33.............130.........29900
    Mysterious Skull..............1000.............33.33.............100.........1000
    Crusade Orders.............30000..............6.67...............20..........6000
    Forshura's Black Orb.....600000............0.33................1...........6000
    General Feng
    Feng's Black Armor......150000...........16.67...............50..........75000
    Mirage..........................23000............43.33..............130.........29900
    Klunky Sword................1000..............33.33..............100.........1000
    Crusade Orders.............30000..............6.67...............20..........6000
    Feng's Steel Armor.....1000000............0.33.................1..........10000
    Misc MOB Drops.......................................................................15000
    2 Ultimate Substance..............................................................150000
    TOTAL AVERAGE VALUE PER RUN THRU TT2-1 SINGLE.....270700
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  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    yes a lvl 76 should have no difficulty in 1-3... but from my research I think it is less profitable than 2-1. (1-3 also takes 2 subs)
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    Actually pretty much every HH that veno can solo with herc is extremely over farmed and the mats sells for like nothing atm, at least on LC
    Most mats in 1-2 have dropped with like 100k in value last months. Every 80+ veno runs 1-2 pretty much everyday lol.

    Snake skins are hard to sell even at 130-140k, also golden shards dropped from like 300k to 170k now. Drum also hard to sell since u can get it in solo mode. And mats from fetch boss was always hard to sell for more than 100k.

    Only mats that sells good from 1-3 is gold mats like snake gold and mats from drum (since veno cant solo drum in 1-3). Snake blood etc ure happy if someone pay even 100k for. Same goes for armor boss there. Only good thing is that mobs drops alot of apoc pages.

    I mostly do 3-1 and 1-2 tho. Behe green sells good still and also gold from 3-1 sells for alot. Behe gold is like 10-12mil each and other gold 2-3 mil each. And i do 1-2 still b/c it gives alot of mirages for cube, its fast, i have cleric so i can do aoe bosses, and its so many bosses to kill, so even if mats sell for less than 150k i make a profit b:cute.

    I would say mats from 2-2 and 2-3 is the most profitable to farm atm, ape, forshura, seven shine boss, doggy, belia etc mainly cuz veno cant solo that.
    Maybe its even more profitable to make a real party and rush 2-2/ 2-3 than solo HH as veno b:surrender.
  • Kotecek - Lost City
    Kotecek - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    TT is boring.. b:sleep much funnier is grinding and talking with friends in this same time b:chuckle
    My chars: 97 barb, 87 cleric, 91 veno, 80 archer, 74 Blademaster, 34 Psychic, 30 Assasin, 20 Wizard, 44 Seeker, 20 Mistyc.

    ^ I have SO many personalities to play them all! b:cute

    And YAY for my Phoenix!(on THIS veno ^^) b:victory
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    I coulda swore 1-3 only took one sub on squad O_o;

    but in anycase, 1-3 has highest apoc page drop rate in game, and 2 diff gold mats with relatively good %s which are worth alot <:
  • XKIAx - Heavens Tear
    XKIAx - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I coulda swore 1-3 only took one sub on squad O_o;

    Yes it does, only 1 usub for 1-3 squad mode. I did a subbed run just a few days ago, i was subber.
  • Agravain - Heavens Tear
    Agravain - Heavens Tear Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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    The lists here are specifically for tt solo(single), not for party mode. I will create another list for party modes later.
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