The "Light" at the end of the Tunnel

Ty - Heavens Tear

The way I read that guide by bluemagi he's talking about at lvl 100 full int is the best.

Pandora is recommending LA at 90+, which...

bluemagi wrote:

pardon my ignorance, a hybrid mage wear what armor? light armor?

since u said full int at lvl 90.. meaning u will wear magic robes

personally, i suggest light armor for 90 to 98 due to its high phy def and most of the time u will be lvlling by zhen.

not advisable to wear robe at 90 coz of low phy def.

phy def ring only come at lvl 95 and phy def cape, belt only come at lvl 95 96, u can wear hh 90 gold till 95 and change to cv necklace. these items i mentioned here form the base of the strong phy def essential to a robe mage.

considering these, light armor hh 90 (green) cheap can provide all these phy def. and if going +5 like u said, which is what i did too on my light armor, it provides some hp too. however, remember to put hp stones on these armors. wearing a light armor, if u r rich enough, can go for luan or 90 hh green magic wheel. i stuck with the magic wheel at +8 to lvl 98.

running at 5 con .. i only know your hp need to be at least 4.5k or 5k after ++ from wb. no matter what build u r, maintain this health hp at lvl 90 to 98.

another view of perspective, if u still want to run on pure int at lvl 90, it still can be done. but u need more effort in finding few items

1) robe have to be 3 holes/holes 3* armor with +94 +94 +94 phy def
2) helmet have to be either hh 90 green or 3* 3holes/4 holes + 94 +94 +94 phy def
then u need to put phy def stone in your armor, try for at least 10k phy def after ++

with this set up, at +5, your hp can be about 3.5k or 3.7k

...bluemagi also recommends. (3rd post on the 2nd page)

Watching this thread intently though, lots of good discussion will ensue I'm sure. The only problem I see so far is that it's mainly coming from people who have only worn one or the other type of armor at 90+.

Having worn both types of armor in my 80s I'll add that its purely just personal preference IMO. Enhanced survivability vs enhanced damage.

Pandora - Lost City

In a world where everyone's gear is +10 or mopre, robe sucks even harder because light gets considerably more bonus for upgrading.

Edit: Ah! The truth comes out. As this magi kid says, 9x is light. As far as the "rings" and "cape" (that Elayne was so nice to drop for us), the pdef mods may indeed make the difference. But at our level, as I said, robe is a joke compared.

Skyannie - Lost City

Beware! For the not-so-experienced readers, we have entered LaLa Land. It's a magical place where anything is possible! You just have to believe it's so! b:cute

dekciw

Read the whole post >.>, he recommends light because he assumes you will zhen 24/7.

Haiz - Lost City

Pandora - Lost City wrote: »

Wow Haiz, your damage is horrible. 10 on dragoned targets with an ult? And in triple spark no less? Jesus bro, I do nearly that much and I'm using an HH80 sword +3. Guess I'll have to show some screens with my HH90 quoit, rofl.

What you don't seem to get is that 1) there's no amp in the schooled pvp, look at the classes and 2) I'm using a horrible HH80 weapon and doing damage like this. Not to mention in the screens I'm using **** rock - a much weaker spell to begin with

I'd hate to break it to you but this so called damage you have isn't going to increase that much with 90HH. My first screenshot where I hit 10-11k there was no dragon by the way, that was my using a tempest, that means half physical damage on a bunch of warriors and werebeast and hitting them 10k no crit. Second one they are dragoned and I managed to do 15-16k there. Now I'm sad to say that with your 90HH and with a stronger spell, your damage isn't going to double magically. I remember hitting Deity 4.5k no crit with pyrogram/gush with triple fury both unbuffed. If you wanna do the math that comes out to 18k if there's a crit and dragon.

Triple fury ultis and triple fury level 11 skills there isn't a big damage difference, the only difference is one is AoE. Yes it does do more, but its not going to magically double like you think yours will.

Pandora - Lost City

Haiz - Lost City wrote: »

I'd hate to break it to you but this so called damage you have isn't going to increase that much with 90HH. My first screenshot where I hit 10-11k there was no dragon by the way, that was my using a tempest, that means half physical damage on a bunch of warriors and werebeast and hitting them 10k no crit. Second one they are dragoned and I managed to do 15-16k there. Now I'm sad to say that with your 90HH and with a stronger spell, your damage isn't going to double magically. I remember hitting Deity 4.5k no crit with pyrogram/gush with triple fury both unbuffed. If you wanna do the math that comes out to 18k if there's a crit and dragon.

Triple fury ultis and triple fury level 11 skills there isn't a big damage difference, the only difference is one is AoE. Yes it does do more, but its not going to magically double like you think yours will.

How is it double? If I'm doing 17k with dragon on a non-amped werebeast, stone rain, without matk buff... Uh... It's pretty damned far from double, rofl.

You need to learn to read things before you reply.

Ty - Heavens Tear

dekciw wrote: »

Read the whole post >.>, he recommends light because he assumes you will zhen 24/7.

Nah i think you better read it again.

"personally, i suggest light armor for 90 to 98 due to its high phy def and most of the time u will be lvlling by zhen."

He said 'and' not 'because'. Zhenning is the easy way to level in LA because normal grinding is a pain in the ****. You should easily be able to get enough pdef and HP to zhen in robes anyway.

Adroit - Lost City

Thx for posting this... I don't really care if my damage isn't as much as pure int... being able to tank a few hits would make it worth it to me... as was said before... being alive and doing 10k dmg is better than being one shotted and 0 dmg.

streaker

*Thinks Haiz should go LA and Pandora should go robes and compare them thierself first hand instead of bickering* and roflmfao at Pandoras siggy

Rundora - Lost City_1243871147

streaker wrote: »

*Thinks Haiz should go LA and Pandora should go robes and compare them thierself first hand instead of bickering* and roflmfao at Pandoras siggy

Oh damn, I just noticed the change. Haha, I bet the little kiddies went crying to the GM because the bad woman didn't put on a t-shirt. That's just hilarious.

Skyannie - Lost City

What many beginner mages aren't aware of is that a robe mage's survivability increases at level 90 with 90HH gear. It's at that point that you should be making comparisons, not before. As a fellow poorly geared mage, I know what it's like to be one-shot and killed by everyone, but I accept that it's part of the process before reaching the big cookie later on.

Also, I'm not sure if Pandora has ever posted any pictures of damage output, other than what can be called lucky criticals. o.o Although I could be mistaken.

Mrbungle - Lost City

one question pandora...
how do you know that robes still sucks with hh90 and everything?

you said mages are gimped (la and robe) and suck but then you tried your hh90 gear and changed completely your mind and now you say LA mages pwn like hell.

have you tried a full int robe mage 9x with hh90 gear like you got now??
maybe it is even better then LA...?? how you wanna know?

RadiantNova - Heavens Tear

well i was pure mag from 1-55, and i hated it. i restatted to LA and now i can actually do quests and solo my bh's. i like LA.

RadiantNova - Heavens Tear

oh and im lvl 57 now

Adroit - Lost City

this is over a year old necro.. you FAIL