graphics

banana

looking at the teaser video the graphics in this game look really nice, but in all the screenshots posted by users the graphics look extremely bad.

Soo which is it? My computer can easily handle any game on the market at highest settings.

arcane

banana wrote: »

looking at the teaser video the graphics in this game look really nice, but in all the screenshots posted by users the graphics look extremely bad.

Soo which is it? My computer can easily handle any game on the market at highest settings.

I think the graphics are not good.
But that is just me.

soukyuu

many people use the suggested settings (the patcher.exe can stuff those suggestion in it's virtual rear ) that's why the graphics look bad.

an example of the game on max settings:


So don't worry, the trailer isn't lying.

merulz

The graphics are pretty good. The game is coded so a really crappy computer can run the game at low settings, and a really good computer can run it at maximum. And anywhere in between.

june

banana wrote: »

looking at the teaser video the graphics in this game look really nice, but in all the screenshots posted by users the graphics look extremely bad.

Soo which is it? My computer can easily handle any game on the market at highest settings.

I agree with merulz and soukyuu that the graphics are really nice. Looking at the screen shots some people have posted, I can already see some don't have the settings on maximum. For example, some pictures do not have reflective water enabled. Others have texture detail on low. (On low texture detail, a lot of the ground texture is this thatched straw texture which replaces dirt, grass, sand etc.)

desirai

The graphics are really nice in some aspects. It's nothing like Runescape, but definitely not as great as Lineage II or Rohan Online.

The scenery is nice, and character detail is nice. I run the game on maxed settings with little lag even though I'm in the USA and play on the MY server.

rena

What are the spec requirements for Max setting for it to run smoothly ?

june

rena wrote: »

What are the spec requirements for Max setting for it to run smoothly ?

I'm not sure. According the download page, the suggested requirements are:
http://www.perfectworld.com/download
Suggested Requirement
Operating System Windows 98/Me/2000/XP
CPU Intel Pentium4 1.5GHz
RAM 512MB+
Hard Disk 3.0G HD space
Graphic Display 256MB 3D graphics card

I have a 2GHz CPU, 1GB RAM, and a 256MB graphics card, and it runs perfectly, albeit I notice a little longer loading when teleporting between scenes in comparison to my best friend, who has a 2.4GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, and a 512MB graphics card. My graphics card is budget compared to hers, so the refresh rate is a little less when there are like over a thousand people in town.

ren

rena wrote: »

What are the spec requirements for Max setting for it to run smoothly ?

My athlon xp 2200+ with 512mb of ram (single channel even) and a geforce 6600 ran it fine maxed/1600x1200. But in ADC I got really low fps (probably around 5).

My new pc is pretty powerful, but I still only get 12-15FPS in adc, but that's probably because I'm using a quad clocked at 2.4ghz and the game can only use one core. My 8800GT seems to have no effect on fps in town.
I'd say this game is based mostly off of the clock rate of your cpu, so 4ghz+ would be needed if you want good fps in a player filled town. Yeah, it sounds high, but it's not since single-core usage completely sucks.

The graphics in this game really do suck. You can't use AA even by forcing it in your drivers (which as you will see in my screen, it desperately needs), the textures are terribly low res, and there's not much detail.
However despite that shortcoming, it's got a "neat" look to it.
Here's a real screenshot, since low resolutions are fail (everything maxed): http://frontiernet.net/~asd/fds.jpg

soukyuu

desirai wrote: »

I run the game on maxed settings with little lag even though I'm in the USA and play on the MY server.

Sorry to burst your bubble but PC specs have nothing to do with connection lag. The server could be on the Moon and you would be getting exactly the same latency as my athlon XP 2000+ with 1GB ram and a 7600GT. Yep, this one can play PW on max settings minus water reflections smoothly.

edit: Oh, and in ADC, my fps dropped, but it was still like 10-15. i wonder why your PC is lagging this much ren.

devotion

heres one of max everything

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=131911&postcount=10

ren

devotion wrote: »

heres one of max everything

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=131911&postcount=10

Your image doesn't load, and there is a perfectly fine maxed setting 1600x1200 image a few posts before yours anyway.

seph

banana wrote: »

looking at the teaser video the graphics in this game look really nice, but in all the screenshots posted by users the graphics look extremely bad.

Soo which is it? My computer can easily handle any game on the market at highest settings.

Yeah I said the same thing after I looked the the system requirements to play, they are SOOOO low and everyone says the graphics are SOOO good.

tenkei

Should get a picture of the one I have in 1900x1200 with max. It is very nice imagery, the only thing that I get hung up with on it is that some weapon's textures could of had better alpha mapping and maybe a slightly higher texturing.

Some of the smaller weapons look like they used a 32x32 texture or worse result in not so smooth a look. Also could spent a couple more polygons to give the weapon's some more depth, they kind of look like your holding paper sometimes.

Aside from the hangup on the weapons the rest of it I think is quite well done.

ragingwind

Here are some good examples for you of the good graphics that are possible. I think that most people who play this game simply don't have really nice video cards and such or theirs are set on low settings (like no AA, etc.). Just keep in mind that my computer isn't brand new, either. (Turn on Anti-Aliasing, people!)

These are some random old screen shots of mine that I've posted on the internet in the past. Enjoy.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/501/200711260111482jz0.png
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6020/200712041648132pz9.png
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3895/200712021439072uw8.png
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1570/20071214004827croptp3.png
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9126/20071214033523cropkg9.png
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1586/20071214202154cropmq1.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5646/screentownwideshotwx8.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5194/screentownskylightza0.png
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4896/screentowncelestialdoorht3.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5937/screentowndemondoorui0.png
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7774/zhangbj9.png

ren

ragingwind wrote: »

(Turn on Anti-Aliasing, people!)

I've even set antialiasing to GLOBAL 8xQ, and PW-MY is still as jagged as a serrated knife.

I'm starting to get pissed, how am I supposed to get AA working on this. Rohan wouldn't use AA either. My pc is more than good enough to use 16x aa, why can't I even use 8x.

ragingwind

ren wrote: »

I've even set antialiasing to GLOBAL 8xQ, and PW-MY is still as jagged as a serrated knife.

I'm starting to get pissed, how am I supposed to get AA working on this. Rohan wouldn't use AA either. My pc is more than good enough to use 16x aa, why can't I even use 8x.

Is the chip ATI or nVidia? Who made the card? A lot of factors contribute to a video card's quality. I've got an old Radeon x850 made by ATI and the AA works fine (as you can see in my pics). Just keep in mind that my processor is old, so I have to run AA on a low setting. At least it works, though.

ren

8800GT, 512mb model.

AA works fine in Crysis, Legend, UT3, all kinds of higher spec games than PW...

edit: hmm, looks like I'm not the only one. I hope nvidia fixes this bs, looks like a lot of effort http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php?topic=70675.0

ragingwind

ren wrote: »

8800GT, 512mb model.

AA works fine in Crysis, Legend, UT3, all kinds of higher spec games than PW...

edit: hmm, looks like I'm not the only one. I hope nvidia fixes this bs, looks like a lot of effort http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php?topic=70675.0

nVidia has always had Anti-Aliasing problems. For whatever reasons, they've never gotten it right. That's why I buy ATI. Too many gamers go for the fast and cheap nVidia cards thinking that they're getting a great deal but they don't understand why they are cheap. ATI has a good product and they know it. That's business, I guess.

ren

Antialising ******** fixed. Custom drivers ftw? XTreme-G 175.63 drivers -> no more problems.
(if anyone's actually gonna use this, make sure you uninstall your drivers and use a driver cleaner before installing...)

Man, I'm really pissed. This is the last time I buy an nvidia card. They haven't done anything about the problem at all for years, and yet a 3rd party fixes it for them...

amil

desirai wrote: »

The graphics are really nice in some aspects. It's nothing like Runescape, but definitely not as great as Lineage II or Rohan Online.

The scenery is nice, and character detail is nice. I run the game on maxed settings with little lag even though I'm in the USA and play on the MY server.

You cannot be serious, PW looks way better than rohan and lineage 2. I cannot even believe you just said that. Wow

ren

amil wrote: »

You cannot be serious, PW looks way better than rohan and lineage 2. I cannot even believe you just said that. Wow

Uh, you can't be serious, L2 is twice as good looking than both Rohan and PW combined.
The armors and weapons are way more detailed.

L2 graphics are pretty dated as well by now, though.

arcane

amil wrote: »

You cannot be serious, PW looks way better than rohan and lineage 2. I cannot even believe you just said that. Wow

I REALLY like rohan graphics.

Id say it is 2-3x better than PW.

lipe124

LOL are u drunk? Rohan graphics?!! Man I deleted my rohan folder but lets see..

Monsters looked like lego blocks
Water looked like someone stacked together a lot of mirrors on the ground and had ZERO wave/splash effects
If you really want to prove your point then post a screenie of soemthing in rohan that looks better than PW and I'll make u 5 PW screenies that top that.

The guys with AA probs.. I never really had that at all, and ive got a 8600 GT. I'll check later again but i dont recall seeing blocky edges anywhere.

june

I think Rohan graphics are really nice in a classic nostalgic way. (Computer graphics are improving so fast, that anything over 2 years old looks nostalgic.) It has a denser more compact filled design, whereas in Perfect World, there are some more wide open spaces/regions.

I notice in Perfect World, the texture detail of 70+ areas look a lot nicer than the starting areas (except for the cities, which are nice), with better textures and environments. I really dislike the textures in the fb19s, because they seemed really low resolution (a.k.a ugly) and really poor to gauge the game by. I always thought they should someday redo some of the textures in the beginning areas. The expansion and new quest areas on the Perfect World China server look really nice.

(Also to the person with AA problems. Maybe it could be a driver issue. ATI Radeon 1950XTX 512MB running with max settings and 4x AA 16x AF at 1600x1200 resolution. It's a dated card too.)

ence

....I would disagree/agree with the Rohan, L2 comparison.

Personally I think L2 was much more detail oriented and realistic while PW trends slightly more towards an animeistic style, but not as much detail.

In comparison to Rohan though, I think PW wins hands-down. Rohan has decent looks but seriously I would say it has nothing compared to the graphics in PW

rufus

i hope this game won't be like rohan. i was able to get enough money to wear level 80 armour and weapons at level 20 due to what i feel is an exploit that lets you repeat a high-money earning quest over and over and over again. which meant the rest of the game was a cake walk.

soukyuu

ragingwind wrote: »

(Turn on Anti-Aliasing, people!)

I prefer to play on max settings w/o AA than on min settings with AA. Yeah, my PC sucks :P

But AA does work w/o problems on my NVidia 7600GT & 8600m GT

rev

rufus wrote: »

i hope this game won't be like rohan. i was able to get enough money to wear level 80 armour and weapons at level 20 due to what i feel is an exploit that lets you repeat a high-money earning quest over and over and over again. which meant the rest of the game was a cake walk.

Don't worry, if the drops are like they are in terms of money as MY-EN no chance, I was saving up for a horse (lvl 40 mount) and at lvl 20 I wasn't even HALF way to the funds needed (I think it was 2 MIL)

t0yo

Can't see how you guys think the graphics on this game are bad =/

Imo best f2p game and one if not the best for graphics

karmelia

t0yo wrote: »

Can't see how you guys think the graphics on this game are bad =/
Imo best f2p game and one if not the best for graphics

Depends which graphics. Characters and monsters are well detailed.

The rest is mostly 2D textures applied to flat surface, or on no surfaces at all. Many of those 2D textures are well done tho, so all-in-all the illusion works.

For exemple , there are almost no real stairs. They made vertical surface to witch they applied a stair texture.
Same for some fences, they are simply 2D structures without deepness. When you fly over them, you only see a thin line.

They probably wanted to keep the polygons count low to allow the game to be run on older machines, like most F2P asian games. Most of those are played in cyber-cafe that seldom have top of the line gaming machine.