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    Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008 in General Discussion
    I was just wondering that since you'll be having a PK optional and PK enabled server will the PK punishments be the same as they were on the MY version? Like 2 hours+ to red for PKing a white etc.? Or will be able to get say 5-10 PK's on whites before going red?
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      xkwisite wrote: »
      I was just wondering that since you'll be having a PK optional and PK enabled server will the PK punishments be the same as they were on the MY version? Like 2 hours+ to red for PKing a white etc.? Or will be able to get say 5-10 PK's on whites before going red?

      Bump for great justice.
      I have asked this before, but never got an answer there either.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      why would they change the system? I'm 99.9998% sure the PK system will be identical on both servers cept for the blue name option on PVE
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      lipe124 wrote: »
      why would they change the system? I'm 99.9998% sure the PK system will be identical on both servers cept for the blue name option on PVE

      It shouldnt be.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Question:

      How will I know which server is PK' and which one isnt?
      Sorry i'm new never knew about this 2 different servers :)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      ganja wrote: »
      How will I know which server is PK' and which one isnt?
      Sorry i'm new never knew about this 2 different servers :)

      They will be labelled differently I guess.

      servername open PvP
      servername optional PvP

      or something like that.
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Needed bump
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      double bump,still waiting for official response.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »
      It shouldnt be.

      Why not?
      I really don't get it. The two servers are identical the one is just pro-choice and the other is take it up da butt if u want to or not. Why should the whole game mechanics be altered becuase some players will remain blue till lvl105 and others will be regular white and do regular pvp like everyone else?

      For example you said it should take like 5 or 10 kills to get red right, so here is a little preview of what will happen.

      09:00 *turn on pvp mode in town and goto work*
      18:00-18:59 *get home and gank 4 ppl for whatever reason*
      19:00 *turn off pvp since ur name is still white*
      19:01-satisfied *taunt the ppl u just pk'ed with your bluename making them furious and quit game*

      See the flaw in ur well made plans?
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      lipe124 wrote: »
      Why not?
      I really don't get it. The two servers are identical the one is just pro-choice and the other is take it up da butt if u want to or not. Why should the whole game mechanics be altered becuase some players will remain blue till lvl105 and others will be regular white and do regular pvp like everyone else?

      For example you said it should take like 5 or 10 kills to get red right, so here is a little preview of what will happen.

      09:00 *turn on pvp mode in town and goto work*
      18:00-18:59 *get home and gank 4 ppl for whatever reason*
      19:00 *turn off pvp since ur name is still white*
      19:01-satisfied *taunt the ppl u just pk'ed with your bluename making them furious and quit game*

      See the flaw in ur well made plans?

      PvE server should be 1 kill=red.
      PvP server should be 5-10 kills = red.
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Don't try to change the mechanics of the game. This is not how it works in any other version.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      I think it will be if u have your pk safety on your name will turn blue so no pking.
      When turned off you will be able to pk and get pked.
      I think the hours will stay the same 2h for 1 person killed.


      Other dont trust my judgement i just think:)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Ah i misunderstood the orig post in my response, still they wont change it. Red = doll sales.

      Besides true pk'ers know how to stay pink, simply let your oponent do the 1st hit and u'll never be red and have a good chance to take inventory items of others.
      And if somone is red already the worst that can happen is pink.

      Saying you want 5 kills before u turn red is like openly admitting you want to slaughter 5 ppl with no chance in hell, just for a laugh.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Still no official reply.

      Maybe they overlooked it, or they are studying the possibilities.
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      There isn't a need for PvE or PvP server just impose additional hour. Ie. You kill one person, u get 3 hrs instead of 2 now with red name tag. If you kill 10 person than is 30 hrs.

      When ever you are red, you stats drop by 1% per killed. So when you killed 10, thats 10%.

      The above do not apply to TW or duel.

      This will make Pker thing twice before killing low level player and to prevent griefting that can drive new player away.

      Or, sell intra kill scroll on red name in IM.
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Don't try to change the mechanics of the game. This is not how it works in any other version.

      Quoted for emphasis.
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      keithtan69 wrote: »
      There isn't a need for PvE or PvP server

      There have been some discussions about it already.

      The last words of the admins about it :

      http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=80741&postcount=183
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 243 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Ya none of those drop stats ****, plain red name is enough penalty.

      Red name makes players buy dolls, we're happy that we have dolls for protection, the staff is happy that you spent money on dolls. Everyone wins!

      Best pvp system ever, it really boosts cash shop sales. This is what perfectworld is about, buy dolls and hieros.
      ULTIMATE TOPIC:
      See 3 RQ get owned by 1 WB
      copy and paste onto your web link
      pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=33421
    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      faruxue wrote: »
      Ya none of those drop stats ****, plain red name is enough penalty.

      Red name makes players buy dolls, we're happy that we have dolls for protection, the staff is happy that you spent money on dolls. Everyone wins!

      Best pvp system ever, it really boosts cash shop sales. This is what perfectworld is about, buy dolls and hieros.

      I know I always play a f2p game to spend money! >.>
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »
      I know I always play a f2p game to spend money! >.>

      Lol? How do you expect f2p games to make money if people don't buy the items in the cash shop? Grow a money tree in their backyard?
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Lol? How do you expect f2p games to make money if people don't buy the items in the cash shop? Grow a money tree in their backyard?

      Of course not, but that doesn't mean the system is perfect. Especially not for a pvp server.

      And this is not what perfect world is about
      faruxue wrote:
      This is what perfectworld is about, buy dolls and hieros.
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Perfect World is pretty cash shop based. You will have to buy items from the cash shop unless you have a lot of ingame gold or bum them off of someone.
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Perfect World is pretty cash shop based. You will have to buy items from the cash shop unless you have a lot of ingame gold or bum them off of someone.

      GOD YOU ARE DUMB.
      IT IS NOT WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT :eek:

      Freaking learn to read.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »

      Originally Posted by Karmelia
      This is what perfectworld is about, buy dolls and hieros.


      Wrong quote, I was not the one who said that, faruxue did.
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      karmelia wrote: »
      Wrong quote, I was not the one who said that, faruxue did.

      I am extremely sorry for that karmelia :O
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »
      GOD YOU ARE DUMB.
      IT IS NOT WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT :eek:

      Freaking learn to read.

      Huh? You don't make any sense. I didn't say PW was about cash shop. I said it was pretty cash shop based, especially if you want to enjoy pking or zenning.
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »
      show previous quotes

      No offense done, only wanted to correct that to avoid any confusion later :)
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      Point is that if you want to PK on the PvP server your basically gonna be forced to have to buy dolls? I don't think thats really all that fair. I suggested 5 kills before going red because if your playing on the PvP server you probably want to be able to PK without facing huge punishments right? Oh and whoever said wait for them to attack you first? It doesn't really work that way.

      I've played other versions of PW before and the PK mechanics are awfully hard on PKers. Doll prices on the MY server are up to 120k per pop and every time you go red everyone you see tries to kill you. And whoever said that you could just go out PK 4 people then go back to blue, so that everyone you PKed gets upset and "ragequit's". Please remember were talking about the PvP server where A. You can't go blue. B. They can always use 1 of their 4 free PK's before going red C.If they can't handle being PKed then they should play on the carebear server uhh the PvE server :o.

      And if it makes anyone feel better they could add a mechanic so that the game contains a database of whoever has PKed you in the past so that if they PKed you once then you could come back later and kill them without losing one of your free kills.


      As for PW being cash shop based? It is to an extent,but not a whole lot. Even on the MY server with massive inflation hieros were still relatively cheap and so were exp scrolls. And i played a WB so i didn't exactly have a whole lot of money but i could afford to buy miji's and hieros for zhen parties whenever i wanted too.

      Official Response Please.
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      xkwisite wrote: »
      Point is that if you want to PK on the PvP server your basically gonna be forced to have to buy dolls? I don't think thats really all that fair. I suggested 5 kills before going red because if your playing on the PvP server you probably want to be able to PK without facing huge punishments right? Oh and whoever said wait for them to attack you first? It doesn't really work that way.

      I've played other versions of PW before and the PK mechanics are awfully hard on PKers. Doll prices on the MY server are up to 120k per pop and every time you go red everyone you see tries to kill you. And whoever said that you could just go out PK 4 people then go back to blue, so that everyone you PKed gets upset and "ragequit's". Please remember were talking about the PvP server where A. You can't go blue. B. They can always use 1 of their 4 free PK's before going red C.If they can't handle being PKed then they should play on the carebear server uhh the PvE server :o.

      And if it makes anyone feel better they could add a mechanic so that the game contains a database of whoever has PKed you in the past so that if they PKed you once then you could come back later and kill them without losing one of your free kills.


      As for PW being cash shop based? It is to an extent,but not a whole lot. Even on the MY server with massive inflation hieros were still relatively cheap and so were exp scrolls. And i played a WB so i didn't exactly have a whole lot of money but i could afford to buy miji's and hieros for zhen parties whenever i wanted too.

      Official Response Please.

      Well you aren't forced to buy dolls but you will want to unless you want to drop your gear. PW is not really a pk based game, that is why there is penalties. TWs and the Arena both have no penalties for pking. Also this isn't' really a pvp server, it's just a normal server. They won't change the mechanics of the game for a normal server. That is how the game is played. People will have to live with it or move to a different game.

      ~sorry if it's not official but PW works and has always worked with these pk rule sets.
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    • Posts: 1,084 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      koz wrote: »
      PW is not really a pk based game

      When you create a pvp server, you are making it pk based. Honestly do you think before you post?
      And it is not a normal server, they changed the mechanics for the PvE server, why wouldnt they do the same for the PvP one as well?

      I have mailed a pvp server request to the GMs that I think would be beneficial to both players and the company, I hope to get back to them soon.
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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited August 2008
      arcane wrote: »
      When you create a pvp server, you are making it pk based. Honestly do you think before you post?

      I have mailed a pvp server request to the GMs that I think would be beneficial to both players and the company, I hope to get back to them soon.

      The server you are playing on is not a pvp server. Don't you get that? You're just playing on a normal server, just like the MY version. They just refer to it as pvp because it has open pk. Do YOU even think before you post?
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