Wizards build

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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Yes, they are two different builds. But you argued for a robe mage using both, saying they would have higher hp (con mage) AND that they would have higher damage and higher magic defense (pure int). I simply wanted it clarified which kind of robe mage you were supporting against the light armor mage build.

    Also, I'm only talking about mages. I thought we were arguing over mage builds, not armor in general >_>
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    senovit wrote: »
    Yes, they are two different builds. But you argued for a robe mage using both, saying they would have higher hp (con mage) AND that they would have higher damage and higher magic defense (pure int). I simply wanted it clarified which kind of robe mage you were supporting against the light armor mage build.

    Also, I'm only talking about mages. I thought we were arguing over mage builds, not armor in general >_>

    You were referring to your light armor werefox, so I assumed it was anything but another mage. Also the 50 int would add more damage because of the magic multiplier, which isn't known. The defenses are minor but still there. Given the archer would have maybe 100-300 more health but that isn't alot when you have 6k health. Also I'm supporting my hybrid mage build which is a mix between those 2 builds. I hope that clears it up.
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Yes, but the difference is, a light armor werefox follows the same build as a light armor mage, while an archer is altogether different.

    But meh. I'm done. I've proved my point. Enjoy your mage when CB opens.
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    senovit wrote: »
    Yes, but the difference is, a light armor werefox follows the same build as a light armor mage, while an archer is altogether different.

    But meh. I'm done. I've proved my point. Enjoy your mage when CB opens.

    The WF doesn't have the extra 100% (150%) added physical defense though now does it?
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Blargh. Okay, let's continue this.

    We're comparing a mage with a mage. A buff of 100% additional defense isn't going to change anything, because both mages have the same buff.

    I only threw in a mention of my werefox so I could see how Int affects base defense. A mage with the same build and same stats would most likely have the same base defense, so it was used as a reference point seeing as how I don't have a light armor mage to check defenses with.

    Either way, as long as the base defenses match, buff skills and such don't matter because they are both the same class and thus have the same skills.
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    There really isn't anything else to discuss :p

    Also I'm not going mage haha. I have a high level mage on PH and I've decided to roll something else on this server.
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    That's pretty amazing, because I'm not going mage either.

    So basically 2 people who aren't going to play a mage just had a 3 page discussion about builds =.=
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    senovit wrote: »
    That's pretty amazing, because I'm not going mage either.

    So basically 2 people who aren't going to play a mage just had a 3 page discussion about builds =.=

    Hehe. Bad luck I guess?
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  • sealed
    sealed Posts: 781
    edited August 2008
    Lol,

    Well Wizard is probably gonna be my alt character, so this thread helps even though I already know how to build it:p

    sealed~
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Somehow, reading through the argument, I don't think there was a conclusion. Which build was it that was able to deal the best damage? Pure int?
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ark wrote: »
    Somehow, reading through the argument, I don't think there was a conclusion. Which build was it that was able to deal the best damage? Pure int?


    Well if you have pure int then you will obviously have more damage :p

    It depends on playstyle really;

    Light Armor
    - More physical defense unless the robe user has jeweled armor
    - More HP unless the robe user adds con, which would make them near identical health.
    - 5% more crit rate

    Robes
    - More damage
    - More Magic defense
    - Faster cast rate
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Uh, yes. Pure int is the best damage. The argument was never about which build was better for damage or whatever, it was just over whether or not a robes user could match a light armor physical defense and whether or not a light armor could match a robes user defense with necklace/waist adorn alone. It's pretty pointless, so pay it no mind.
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  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Well, Koz, light's critical could result in double damage more often. That means it could deal the better damage. Anyways, I guess I'll use that halfpure build I recently tried on MY.
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    Strength in Unity,
    Order through Chaos,
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Well, +5% double damage would come out to 10% additional average damage. A pure int build would definitely have more than 10% more magic attack than a light armor. So speaking purely in terms of dps, robes would do better. But in pvp, when spike damage matters more, I personally would prefer the additional crit.
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  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Yeah. On pure Int, I guess the critical hits in TW are that much more special and awesome :D
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    Order through Chaos,
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  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    hi i was thinking of doing a mage on tuesday but i was thinking what is the best build for a mage because i want a build where i am strong attacking but good defence defence to surrive lol =-() the reason i want it like this is becuse then i will be strong enough to get quest items becuse i have heard on the forum that wizards are the worst for doing quest but i dont think this is true so i want to be stong and bit of defence so i will be able to find it easyer to find quest items. can u plz reply on this message saying what is the best bild for a wizard like this.:D
  • annthrax
    annthrax Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I'm sorta wondering if building with Str (1) , Con (1) , Int (6) and Dex (2) every 2 lvls until dex is 60 is good. Then I'd switch to Str (2) Con (1) , Int (7). I'm a horrid, horrid n00b, so any help would be appreciated...
  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Building with 2 con, 1 str, and 6 int every two levels is a very decent build for survival, and still does good damage. You can switch to pure later on in your PW life if it suits you to be more pvp based.
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    Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
    Strength in Unity,
    Order through Chaos,
    Victory united.
  • ShadowDrag - Lost City
    ShadowDrag - Lost City Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    daniel wrote: »
    Yah..

    Well one think u just NEED is CON or else youll die easy

    no, 1 con(vit) for wizards i only 10 hp, use p def shards and max out stone barriar also get and max your seals
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  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ShadowDrag - Lost City wrote: »
    no, 1 con(vit) for wizards i only 10 hp, use p def shards and max out stone barriar also get and max your seals

    11 month necro b:bye

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