TOP NEW APS GEAR FOR ANY CLASS

engrdennis2012

what is the newest top aps gear for all class? for example in archer assassin and blademaster and etc that needs aps. in assassin we know the old aps gear but there is a r8rr with 3x interval in boots and chest plus g16 dag 3x interval. what about in other class?

my goal for my sin and archer is this:
head:crown of madness+12
chest: r8rr 4x interval +12
leg: r8rr +12
boots: r8rr 4x interval +12
wrist: G15 with -0.1 interval +12
robe: ancestral wing +12
neck: no idea
belt: no idea
ring: ring of trauma
ring: g16 +12
tome: emperor
weapon: sin: g16 3x interval +12 archer: r9rr+12

can anyone please help me improve my target gears for my sin and archer, and also planning to gear up my other alts. but I want to concentrate in my sin and archer. pls don't advice to just r9rrr+12 I want to be unique. improve my gear target pls. I don't care how long will it will takes or even its impossible, all I care is if its possible. thank you. and yes my aps gear is possible.

ayejay101

Impossible? Kay. GM Gear.

Armor?
4x INT(or at least 2 or more) on all parts possible with R8-QSM version, as they allow you one extra stat than just simple recasted R8.

Neck?
Defiance/Nation War Cube Neck.

Belt?
Warsong Naught? I'll have to double check the name, but pretty sure that's it. There's two versions, one P.Def and another M.Def

I understand that you're going for mainly APS gear, but +12 wouldn't be part of any APS, so I think it's not only APS you're after.
Go for Nuema Portal war avatar set, 2nd rebirth all. Hard as hell... but broken as hell too. ​​

standoffishman

You get APS caps at 5 right? Like you're already 0.25 over on sin which gimps you with no advantage. Outside of that enjoy farming for around 50 years every day and paying over a trillion coins just in fees to get that r8rr gear with four intervals. Yep this sounds very doable and practical, no possible way doing a million re-rolls is impractical.

jabq

Why do you want to be 5 aps base?

You will be sparking if demon right?

Aps is all about max damage while sparked (demon). That means you only need 3.33 base and rest to max out your damage.

@ayejay101 can you rb S cards now? i thought you could not devour S cards.​​

dagoddominator

dont almost all the new bosses have anti-aps buffs? the penalty for being over 4.0 also exists. getting multiple -int on either piece of r8rr is just insane. at best i understand if you want to be 2.87 or 3.33 base, but compared to learned to use skills and having better defenses and damage.... i fail to see why anyone would pursue this goal.

im not trying to kill your dream, pwi already did that when they changed the environment to r9rr or GTFO. alternate builds are so gimped compared to orthodox ones you rarely see any diversity. aps was programmed out of usefulness (aside from farming older content but even then its easier in newer gear) by the devs.

sylenthunder

dagoddominator wrote: »

dont almost all the new bosses have anti-aps buffs? the penalty for being over 4.0 also exists. getting multiple -int on either piece of r8rr is just insane. at best i understand if you want to be 2.87 or 3.33 base, but compared to learned to use skills and having better defenses and damage.... i fail to see why anyone would pursue this goal.

im not trying to kill your dream, pwi already did that when they changed the environment to r9rr or GTFO. alternate builds are so gimped compared to orthodox ones you rarely see any diversity. aps was programmed out of usefulness (aside from farming older content but even then its easier in newer gear) by the devs.

Yeah APS is kinda dead. In PvP full APS like that equals a very quick death.
IMHO, the return is not worth the effort at all.​​

ayejay101

jabq wrote: »

@ayejay101 can you rb S cards now? i thought you could not devour S cards.

@jabq Yes, you can rebirth them as it's a different process than devouring. I've seen many rebirthed S cards.

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standoffishman

With regards to people claiming aps is dead I think that's a bit misleading. I would agree that sustained 5aps builds are pointless and high effort to get. Having said that most classes won't break 2x base damage for dps using skills (assuming a decent weapon). Frankly there's a reason we see so many lower speed aps builds in older dungons. If you can get 3.33 or even 2.86 while only losing 20-30% base damage (normally 35 attack levels and a few other things) then it's great. The problem is going to 5.0 loses you heaps of dph stats and also makes you super papery if you don't sink money into it.

I say all of this in part because I see a lot of people talk like thier 3.33 build somehow isn't still aps just because they aren't 5aps and using nv3 daggers.

axel320

Here, if you really insist on going aps. Why anyone would do such a thing in an age when you could do considerably more damage with dph is beyond me, but whatever floats your boat. Regardless, it's foolish to not use the r9 daggers even with aps.


I do hope you realize, though, that 4x aps on a single piece of r8rr gear is so improbable as to be completely unattainable; let alone getting it on two of them. You're looking at a 1 in 46.6 million chance for the chest, and 1 in 683 billion for the boots. You're roughly as likely to win the Powerball lottery jackpot twice in a row.

chary

APS is dead and any class now can farm just fine with decent enough gear.​​

engrdennis2012

axel320 said:

Here, if you really insist on going aps. Why anyone would do such a thing in an age when you could do considerably more damage with dph is beyond me, but whatever floats your boat. Regardless, it's foolish to not use the r9 daggers even with aps.


I do hope you realize, though, that 4x aps on a single piece of r8rr gear is so improbable as to be completely unattainable; let alone getting it on two of them. You're looking at a 1 in 46.6 million chance for the chest, and 1 in 683 billion for the boots. You're roughly as likely to win the Powerball lottery jackpot twice in a row.

that's what I'm saying, thank for the help, now, I have my new goals. this will beat r9rrr in the ****

dagoddominator

engrdennis2012 said:

that's what I'm saying, thank for the help, now, I have my new goals. this will beat r9rrr in the ****

ummm..... this has to be trolling. nobody is stomping on your dreams but you seem to be missing the fact that all that APS does not amount to besting r9rr outside of killing TT bosses.....

understand that bosses who get anti-aps buff will lay you flat. and aps-ing in pvp is likewise foolish for the most part.

scruncy

this whole post is just trolling.
4x -int on boots?
its not even a funny troll, just a stupid one.

rieihdius

Not traying the go out of topic or anything but.

Anyone know about how many rolls (aprox) you need to get 0.5 int on r8r chest and boots?
I know that PW Database can tell you the % chance to get it but im more interested in the personal exp of the players that got it done.

I mean I have an old r8r sin that I almost never use and was thinking on doing a few rolls but since everyone say is ultra hard to get Im not too sure about it anymore, also is not like im going r9 on him since is not my main.

mosz

rieihdius said:

Not traying the go out of topic or anything but.

Anyone know about how many rolls (aprox) you need to get 0.5 int on r8r chest and boots?
I know that PW Database can tell you the % chance to get it but im more interested in the personal exp of the players that got it done.

I mean I have an old r8r sin that I almost never use and was thinking on doing a few rolls but since everyone say is ultra hard to get Im not too sure about it anymore, also is not like im going r9 on him since is not my main.

chest 1/20 chance roughly (every 5-15 tries isint uncommon)
boots 1/200 chance roughly (150-300 is common)

axel320

rieihdius said:

Not traying the go out of topic or anything but.

Anyone know about how many rolls (aprox) you need to get 0.5 int on r8r chest and boots?
I know that PW Database can tell you the % chance to get it but im more interested in the personal exp of the players that got it done.

I mean I have an old r8r sin that I almost never use and was thinking on doing a few rolls but since everyone say is ultra hard to get Im not too sure about it anymore, also is not like im going r9 on him since is not my main.

Chest: 1.21% chance per slot -- 6.49% chance of getting at least one -int per roll (~ 1 in 15)
Boots: 0.11% chance per slot -- 0.44% chance of getting at least one -int per roll (~ 1 in 230)

rieihdius

K guys thanks for the answers, Ill give it a try on chest, boots its too much for an alt lol

engrdennis2012

this is not a troll, wait 10years from now and you will see me the maximum aps sin.

mulier

maximum aps would still be 5 aps , and would still be considered way worse than a simple set of r9.

engrdennis2012

mulier said:

maximum aps would still be 5 aps , and would still be considered way worse than a simple set of r9.

if this is true, then how did i kill a r9rr blademaster and seeker in a row. 1v1, i think ur missing something, i am a 5aps base by the way, almost all +10 refines

asterelle

engrdennis2012 wrote: »

if this is true, then how did i kill a r9rr blademaster and seeker in a row. 1v1, i think ur missing something, i am a 5aps base by the way, almost all +10 refines

Because sins have a large enough class advantage in 1v1's to win with worse gear at equal skill.

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kittyempressa

If you ever got the gears mentioned in OP, you'd be better off with r9rr-dags and some better wrists instead for as far as Kitty could calculate you'd already be 5.00APS base by then. T2-wrists+triple-int daggers would give you -0,25 interval which doesn't benefit at all due to APS-cap at 5APS (a.k.a. max attack speed is 0,20 sec between attacks).

Kitty made a couple calcs showing the ultimate options, all at 5.0 base APS.

T3-dags+some r9rr-armor pieces(more balanced between attack and survival): http://mypers.pw/6/#296188
R9rr-dags+most of the build in OP (a lot stronger attack, but slightly squishier): mypers.pw/6/#296195
The ultimate DPH-build(aka. full r9rr anti-APS skillspammer): mypers.pw/6/#296200

Good luck farming, though. Unless you can throw some millions into this game like its nothing, the chance the get everything in those calcs is like 0.0000000001%.

standoffishman

kittyempressa said:

If you ever got the gears mentioned in OP, you'd be better off with r9rr-dags and some better wrists instead for as far as Kitty could calculate you'd already be 5.00APS base by then. T2-wrists+triple-int daggers would give you -0,25 interval which doesn't benefit at all due to APS-cap at 5APS (a.k.a. max attack speed is 0,20 sec between attacks).



Kitty made a couple calcs showing the ultimate options, all at 5.0 base APS.



T3-dags+some r9rr-armor pieces(more balanced between attack and survival): http://mypers.pw/6/#296188

R9rr-dags+most of the build in OP (a lot stronger attack, but slightly squishier): mypers.pw/6/#296195

The ultimate DPH-build(aka. full r9rr anti-APS skillspammer): mypers.pw/6/#296200



Good luck farming, though. Unless you can throw some millions into this game like its nothing, the chance the get everything in those calcs is like 0.0000000001%.

Wouldn't suggest it but I'm fairly sure you could get the gear mentioned for somewhere in the 6 figure range. Not by doing the rolls of course. I wouldn't be surprised if PWE would take $500000 as a flat payment to put items into the game as long as the items can otherwise exist and you sign an NDA. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they'd do it for $100000. Even if they don't I'd be surprised if you couldn't find someone with the ability to generate items (gm or otherwise) who can be bribed individually with half a million if you talk to them in person.

I also think it says something about the items that the best chance of getting them comes from a massive cash pay off.

matthew4

my gear http://mypers.pw/5/#296487 and u want 4x aps in cheast + bootshm maybe milionar in real or idk

standoffishman

engrdennis2012 said:

mulier said:

maximum aps would still be 5 aps , and would still be considered way worse than a simple set of r9.

if this is true, then how did i kill a r9rr blademaster and seeker in a row. 1v1, i think ur missing something, i am a 5aps base by the way, almost all +10 refines

There are r9rr players with bad refines and low spirit that will die to +5 nv3 players that have actually done primal stuff pretty easily. Outside of that APS can kill people that lack anti aps stuff semi passably if they don't hit back for one reason or another. The problem being they don't do it meaningfully better than DPH builds, have no tank and have hard counters from certain r9 weapons.

standoffishman

engrdennis2012 said:

mulier said:

maximum aps would still be 5 aps , and would still be considered way worse than a simple set of r9.

if this is true, then how did i kill a r9rr blademaster and seeker in a row. 1v1, i think ur missing something, i am a 5aps base by the way, almost all +10 refines

There are r9rr players with bad refines and low spirit that will die to +5 nv3 players that have actually done primal stuff pretty easily. Outside of that APS can kill people that lack anti aps stuff semi passably if they don't hit back for one reason or another. The problem being they don't do it meaningfully better than DPH builds, have no tank and have hard counters from certain r9 weapons.

engrdennis2012

standoffishman said:

kittyempressa said:

If you ever got the gears mentioned in OP, you'd be better off with r9rr-dags and some better wrists instead for as far as Kitty could calculate you'd already be 5.00APS base by then. T2-wrists+triple-int daggers would give you -0,25 interval which doesn't benefit at all due to APS-cap at 5APS (a.k.a. max attack speed is 0,20 sec between attacks).



Kitty made a couple calcs showing the ultimate options, all at 5.0 base APS.



T3-dags+some r9rr-armor pieces(more balanced between attack and survival): http://mypers.pw/6/#296188

R9rr-dags+most of the build in OP (a lot stronger attack, but slightly squishier): mypers.pw/6/#296195

The ultimate DPH-build(aka. full r9rr anti-APS skillspammer): mypers.pw/6/#296200



Good luck farming, though. Unless you can throw some millions into this game like its nothing, the chance the get everything in those calcs is like 0.0000000001%.

Wouldn't suggest it but I'm fairly sure you could get the gear mentioned for somewhere in the 6 figure range. Not by doing the rolls of course. I wouldn't be surprised if PWE would take $500000 as a flat payment to put items into the game as long as the items can otherwise exist and you sign an NDA. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they'd do it for $100000. Even if they don't I'd be surprised if you couldn't find someone with the ability to generate items (gm or otherwise) who can be bribed individually with half a million if you talk to them in person.

I also think it says something about the items that the best chance of getting them comes from a massive cash pay off.

i dont think so, they dont accept money for item, you have to earn it ingame like other player did.

engrdennis2012

kittyempressa said:

If you ever got the gears mentioned in OP, you'd be better off with r9rr-dags and some better wrists instead for as far as Kitty could calculate you'd already be 5.00APS base by then. T2-wrists+triple-int daggers would give you -0,25 interval which doesn't benefit at all due to APS-cap at 5APS (a.k.a. max attack speed is 0,20 sec between attacks).



Kitty made a couple calcs showing the ultimate options, all at 5.0 base APS.



T3-dags+some r9rr-armor pieces(more balanced between attack and survival): http://mypers.pw/6/#296188

R9rr-dags+most of the build in OP (a lot stronger attack, but slightly squishier): mypers.pw/6/#296195

The ultimate DPH-build(aka. full r9rr anti-APS skillspammer): mypers.pw/6/#296200



Good luck farming, though. Unless you can throw some millions into this game like its nothing, the chance the get everything in those calcs is like 0.0000000001%.

i wont loose hope, remember my name "zhenmax" , i will farm it till the game dies.

dblazen1

engrdennis2012 wrote: »

If you ever got the gears mentioned in OP, you'd be better off with r9rr-dags and some better wrists instead for as far as Kitty could calculate you'd already be 5.00APS base by then. T2-wrists+triple-int daggers would give you -0,25 interval which doesn't benefit at all due to APS-cap at 5APS (a.k.a. max attack speed is 0,20 sec between attacks).



Kitty made a couple calcs showing the ultimate options, all at 5.0 base APS.



T3-dags+some r9rr-armor pieces(more balanced between attack and survival): http://mypers.pw/6/#296188

R9rr-dags+most of the build in OP (a lot stronger attack, but slightly squishier): mypers.pw/6/#296195

The ultimate DPH-build(aka. full r9rr anti-APS skillspammer): mypers.pw/6/#296200



Good luck farming, though. Unless you can throw some millions into this game like its nothing, the chance the get everything in those calcs is like 0.0000000001%.

Wouldn't suggest it but I'm fairly sure you could get the gear mentioned for somewhere in the 6 figure range. Not by doing the rolls of course. I wouldn't be surprised if PWE would take $500000 as a flat payment to put items into the game as long as the items can otherwise exist and you sign an NDA. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they'd do it for $100000. Even if they don't I'd be surprised if you couldn't find someone with the ability to generate items (gm or otherwise) who can be bribed individually with half a million if you talk to them in person.

I also think it says something about the items that the best chance of getting them comes from a massive cash pay off.

i dont think so, they dont accept money for item, you have to earn it ingame like other player did.

Oh my sweet innocent summer child, much you have to learn.​​