Territory War Reset

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  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    chary wrote: »
    So like...are people constantly fake-bidding the max amount or something and that's why LC, now TT, has such issues or...?

    Plus the blatant disregard for the alt-faction rule...
    All factions must have independent leadership

    Any collaboration before, during, or after a Territory War that tries to circumvent the fair play of the system is prohibited.
    and..
    Leaders may not have alternate factions or be members of competing factions

    Players in any kind of leadership capacity (Leader, Director, Marshall, or Executor) of a faction that participates in Territory Wars cannot have alternate factions that participate in Territory Wars on the same server. If you are in a leadership position of a faction, you cannot be a member of another faction that participates in Territory Wars on the same server.

    Plus I've seen this...
    Alliances

    Alliances are allowed in Territory Wars provided they are not bidding on each other others Territories.
    I won't name names because that's a violation, but when you dissolve your alliance an hour after the TW you just had against your ally it's pretty f-ing obvious.

    I've opened several tickets, and provided more than the necessary amount of evidence from screenshots alone. The could check the logs and IP addresses for even further proof.
    And still, even though they say they'll look into it, absolutely nothing is being done.

    That's not even counting the people who are account-sharing with other TW factions/freinds to boost their attendance, or are multi-clienting to increase numbers and thin the opponent.

    rooooooooofl all this terms had been infringed multiple times by a faction on former-morai now dawnglory server, multiple reports had been done for things like:

    officer of said TW faction 1 being an officer of another "behind the scene" allied TW faction 2, said factions 1+2 organized stacked territory war bids on enemy faction 3

    officers and members of said TW faction 1 had shared characters (that i will call "assets") in multiple other TW factions and
    said players of those factions 1+2 were logging those assets depending on which TW one or the other faction was going to have

    officer of said TW faction 1, being leader of another "behind the scene" allied TW faction 4 composed of just one member (himself) which had a nickname that was the same of that officer name but with underscores,
    overbid a legit TW bid from enemy faction 3 to prevent the same one to have a war against his main faction 1.
    Said behind the scene allied faction 4 disbanded after the very same TW bid.

    All this **** had been reported with clear as water proofs, but guess what egg-2.gif none gave a **** @ pwe offices egg-2.gif​​
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  • aphrodita
    aphrodita Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    phage69 said:

    I dont see how bidding on a land prevents another from bidding on it when the game bidding allows u to overbid ppl ........tht is not an accurate statement as to why it should be considered "stacking the odds". And on tht note why dont we just call "oh hey buddy faction help us bid gank this faction and take all their lands" against the rules too because tht is conspiracy plain and simple that also stacks odds in ppl favor ~puts on tin foil hat~ just figured id throw some more straws to grasp out there for yah cuz every server has seen tht happen by multiple top tier factions many, many, many times!

    a) if its max bid, you automatically won
    b) you could use a simple bid to change timeslots for other factions and making it then easier for the main faction to defend


    dont forget guys, all the tears, blood, money and time you invested into your chars finally comes to use in TW; so please dont ruin the fun for yourself and others :)
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,887 Community Moderator
    daymond said:

    We shouldn't have any rules for TWs. If you don't want to be overbidded by fake guild - spend more money than 10kk!

    "**** the Rules I have Money!" ~ Seto Kaiba

    Now I'm thinking Egyptian god players in TW. Dam...
  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Thing is if pwe enforced each rule a few times and put their foot down there would be a whole lot less of rule abuse.

    People break the rules because they know pwe doesnt give a - - - -. Pwe starts to give a flying - - - -, = players start respecting the rules.

    People joined for fun, fair battles in a nice game. If its full of jerks cheating their way to victory pwe will be left with that half of the population for a time. And then they too will leave because theres no one to be a doodle to.
  • cheats69
    cheats69 Posts: 86 Arc User
    shade13 wrote: »
    cheats69 wrote: »
    If you want to TW a certain faction then bid closer to them at start of the TW season.
    Really isn't that hard.
    It's impossible to see where they bid untill bids are done. And even if you skip a week to be sure there is still a chance you get overbid.

    You can get overbid at any time. The chance is less when attacking a city.


    Again
    Keep the 3 month reset. Let the smaller factions have some fun too.​​
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    eirghan said:

    Thing is if pwe enforced each rule a few times and put their foot down there would be a whole lot less of rule abuse.



    People break the rules because they know pwe doesnt give a - - - -. Pwe starts to give a flying - - - -, = players start respecting the rules.



    People joined for fun, fair battles in a nice game. If its full of jerks cheating their way to victory pwe will be left with that half of the population for a time. And then they too will leave because theres no one to be a doodle to.

    There's word spreading across PWI universe that someone's toon in your faction is no longer part of PWI's character base due to some blatant rule violations. If so that means someone did 'put their foot down' if you know what I mean. Hopefully the GMs don't stop there.
  • ayejay101
    ayejay101 Posts: 238 Arc User
    Well, I've seen some work around it... someone puts down a minimum bid, from an alt faction.
    Also the intended land you may want to bid on. Then defending cheating faction bids on it to scare that away, then real bid comes in place and hopefully above the fake bid to protect themselves.

    Plus, I wonder how many can put down 99 big notes? D:
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Sorry thats a funny rumor. being an officer in Vindicate with access to records, I can assure you that it's completely and utterly false, Vindicate has never fake bid, even when our opponents have.

    No harm done, but maybe consider where these "words" come from before you air it out in public forums.
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  • doods00
    doods00 Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    ugh
  • doods00
    doods00 Posts: 106 Arc User
    doods00 said:

    eirghan said:

    Sorry thats a funny rumor. being an officer in Vindicate with access to records, I can assure you that it's completely and utterly false, Vindicate has never fake bid, even when our opponents have.



    No harm done, but maybe consider where these "words" come from before you air it out in public forums.
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    i disagree with your statement but not on the recent events, just on vindi never having had been a part (5 years ago there was a time...). btw only leaders get banned since they are the ones who bid and for the record the ban has only been a couple days to a week at the extreme end. all top tier faction leaders have been banned for fake bidding at one point or another on sanctuary.
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  • dingo488
    dingo488 Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Alright, the solution seems clear, lets have the 1 person at PWE investigate 100 factions for fake bidding every week, with no concrete proof and just some stupid assumptions. Last time I checked HarryMcFkwad from the faction Turddanglers can bid just as easily as anyone else. So if there's a bid from Turddanglers people just assume its a fake bid n pretend they know who was fake-bidding, where in reality they dont know shjt and just wanna cry about stuff again.

    Again more people crying for no reason \o And we just got a new CM, would be sad to watch him drown due to the flood of tears on the forums.


    Now I would like to Refer back to OP:

    ''So, it's getting close to that time.
    It clearly says that the reset will happen in 3 months which technically would mean November 4th, or 3rd since that's the closest maintenance day. 3 months could also mean 12 weeks (Given 4 weeks per month) which would also put us on Oct. 27th's maintenance day.

    I mean no offense by this, but... given the lack of news posts recently I am wondering if we will be getting notifications of this prior to the actual time this takes place.

    So, @thenamesdomino
    First, Welcome :D
    If you could please look into the real dates and time frame that the resets go by, that would be a great help, and two if we would be getting advance notices of these things? :3

    Lastly for the community, how's everyone's merged server TWs going? Has one overpowering faction taken rule over the other? or what?''


    Where in this do u see a reason to turn this thread into a whine-thread about fake-bidding. Please stop QQ in every thread, its always the same people that basically turn every single useful thread into a whine and flamefest. Cant u go make ur own forum where u can cry and complain about everything?
  • rocky19
    rocky19 Posts: 122 Arc User
    chary said:

    But like if you're using it to fake bid your main guild or an ally's main guild...ehhh...

    Fake bidding your enemy faction with alt factions, so you get a better time TW on your main faction (vs the same enemy faction) is "ehhh" too. Did your faction not do this last season? with alt factions named "EYEE HATEE PIGSS" or some **** like that?


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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    Its easy to check. Someone show proof of an unknown alt faction that bid on vindicates opponents in a manner that would benefit vindi in the last few years. (inb4 two weeks from now enemy alt factions start benefitting our tws :neutral:)

    And sure its possible that leaders were banned in any and all factions before i started playing (if thats true id love to see proof since ive never heard or seen of it) , but then why would there be words floating around that vindicate is the one true evil if every current leader has been banned?

    Theres a huge difference in stating something that happened five years ago and something that happened last week or last year. A huge difference in stating someone did this vs "everyone" did it.

    And no i dont claim to know everything but it sure is funny to watch you guys try to bring up possibilities as to why someone should doubt what i say without any real evidence or examples as to why. I know you all love trolling me as much as i love watching your half baked defenses for things ive said that wasnt even a direct offense at you or your faction. You guys soooo touchy :wink:
  • zoldickun
    zoldickun Posts: 197 Arc User
    Appart from all the "derailing" regarding fake bids, it would actually be great if the new CM could confirm the reset date.
  • dingo488
    dingo488 Posts: 936 Arc User
    next week should be week 12 of the season if im correct, wouldnt that be the 3 month mark? Seeing how there's no announcement yet, is it safe to assume the season is indeed gonna take longer?
  • tricksie
    tricksie Posts: 189 Arc User
    zoldickun wrote: »
    Appart from all the "derailing" regarding fake bids, it would actually be great if the new CM could confirm the reset date.

    this.

    any news???​​
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  • baseaddress
    baseaddress Posts: 202 Arc User
    hey, @thenamesdomino. Its time for territory war reset! Poke GMs please
  • zoldickun
    zoldickun Posts: 197 Arc User
    Still no confirmation or announcement ?
  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    usually TW reset is announced at least 6 weeks before it happens
    so theorically its gonna get pushed for the end of the year?​​
  • darkonome
    darkonome Posts: 253 Arc User

    I'll be keeping tabs for you guys. Don't worry you wont be left in the dark.

    @thenamesdomino light please
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  • prancing
    prancing Posts: 143 Arc User
    eirghan said:

    Sorry thats a funny rumor. being an officer in Vindicate with access to records, I can assure you that it's completely and utterly false, Vindicate has never fake bid, even when our opponents have.



    No harm done, but maybe consider where these "words" come from before you air it out in public forums.
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    Don't be stupid, just because a faction hasn't collectively fake bid, that does not mean individuals in the faction have, or even the leader (As officers or leaders would have the most to gain.) Just as we can't be sure someone in that faction has not fake bid, its almost impossible to tell another faction HAS fake bid.. Or are you going by one individual and claiming that is a faction? Have your cake and eat it too.
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  • eirghan
    eirghan Posts: 1,912 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Actually, I don't think that's stupid at all. The rumor was that Vindi's leader was banned and wiped from the character database (for fake bidding). Every leader Vindicate has had is still in our faction roster. So someone please display the proof that this rumor is true... @prancing says, it's impossible to tell who hasn't and who has fake bid. But -- it is easy to tell who is wiped from the player database.

    Here are the facts:
    -There hasn't been fake bidding on Sanctuary for years
    -Lost City has had fake bids regularly for years
    -Server merge occurs and it's fake bids galore

    But somehow everyone "knows" it's Vindicate doing all of the fake bidding. You can draw your own conclusions from that.

    So. If you don't believe what I say, what makes you believe rumors people tell? Anyone who believes everything they hear without question and ignore basic facts are sheep, and in my opinion, the ones who shouldn't be "stupid"
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  • booker27
    booker27 Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    @thenamesdomino Any news? It's been 3 months already and people across the servers are waiting for the reset or info about it and i think my servers needs a break from the tw
  • baseaddress
    baseaddress Posts: 202 Arc User
    @thenamesdomino if you dont know anything - just say it! Don't be like our previous CMs. Or it seems you don't understand we are talking about in this thread.
  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    limonazza wrote: »
    usually TW reset is announced at least 6 weeks before it happens
    so theorically its gonna get pushed for the end of the year?

    This almost means they should announce season end before it starts pig-2.gif

    Yes, it's my annoying opinion that TW seasons are too short again tiger-27.gif

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  • ayejay101
    ayejay101 Posts: 238 Arc User
    shade13 wrote: »
    limonazza wrote: »
    usually TW reset is announced at least 6 weeks before it happens
    so theorically its gonna get pushed for the end of the year?

    This almost means they should announce season end before it starts pig-2.gif

    Yes, it's my annoying opinion that TW seasons are too short again tiger-27.gif



    I agree, they should have this pre-planned 3 months in advance.
    It's really not that hard, they make a commitment they should at least follow up on it.

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  • zoldickun
    zoldickun Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    What's funny is that I don't remember anybody asking for 3 months TW.
    They're the one who decided it on their own, then announced it.
    Still they seem unable to respect their own decision... and the lack of (useful) communication has not changed