M15: General Loot Drops

noworries · September 2018

With the Heart of Fire update we made some adjustments to the general loot (loot dropped by the majority of critters regardless of zone).

Walk over loot - general loot now picks up simply by walking over it. Where applicable this will also trigger group loot rolls.
Reduced the number of junk loot items (items only worth gold such as platinum bowls) to 1 type per level range and also increased the stack size of junk loot to 100.
Potions, Skill Kits, and Portable Altars were removed from general loot drops and moved to the general vendors available in most zones and PE
Removed Gray and White gear from dropping in lower levels, the lowest rarity of gear that drops from critters is now Green.

Additional loot changes:

Experience Overflow Rewards now grant direct RP, RAD, and still grant Power Points.
HE rewards no longer grant gems and instead grant direct RP.

Check out these changes on preview and let us know how they feel.

agilesto · September 2018

Walk over loot.

THERE IS A GOD!

someonedies · September 2018

noworries#8859 said:

Walk over loot - general loot now picks up simply by walking over it. Where applicable this will also trigger group loot rolls.
Reduced the number of junk loot items (items only worth gold such as platinum bowls) to 1 type per level range and also increased the stack size of junk loot to 100.
Potions, Skill Kits, and Portable Altars were removed from general loot drops and moved to the general vendors available in most zones and PE
Check out these changes on preview and let us know how they feel.

Awesome. Thank you.

sgtpostal · September 2018

noworries#8859 said:
With the Heart of Fire update we made some adjustments to the general loot (loot dropped by the majority of critters regardless of zone).

Walk over loot - general loot now picks up simply by walking over it. Where applicable this will also trigger group loot rolls.
Reduced the number of junk loot items (items only worth gold such as platinum bowls) to 1 type per level range and also increased the stack size of junk loot to 100.
Potions, Skill Kits, and Portable Altars were removed from general loot drops and moved to the general vendors available in most zones and PE
Removed Gray and White gear from dropping in lower levels, the lowest rarity of gear that drops from critters is now Green.
Check out these changes on preview and let us know how they feel.

while this isnt exactly the "free for all" option i mentioned in a previous post on a loot thread..... this is way better than the current..... esp. since they removed al the potions and etc etc n put them in the vendors an limited the number of "gold value item" drops. least now bags will be filling up with more rp than "gold junk"..... so kudos to that.... althougth..... stiiiillllll doesnt solve the "if i pick it up i should get it" problem or as others havve said in other threads (salvage and dungeon end chests thread mainly) "i got enough rp i dont need more" lol what if i pick up the item but smebdy else gets it bc they roll was higher (an to top it off that person has 7mil+ rp whilest i only got 2mil) lol......... buuuuut like i said definite improvement from the current definite improvement.

theycallmetomu · September 2018

Wait, no more potions? I used those for gold! and we're about to get a major new gold outlet! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo~

pterias · September 2018

Umm, yes, yes, yes, and yes!!

I do have an overall question though: What classifies as "general loot"? Are ID scrolls auto pickup? RP stones? Green gear?

majorcharvenak · September 2018

These are welcome changes indeed.

artifleur · September 2018

These changes sound marvellous.

demolitioninc · September 2018

One of the main sources for gold are potions........

hustin1 · September 2018

What about non-healing potions (tidespan, force, etc.)? Those aren't available from any vendor.

agilesto · September 2018

They are, in the PE vendor in front of the profession materials NPC at least. But yeah, that's one huge gold income to disappear.

ladypeanut66 · September 2018

Change green unidentified items to direct RP, please.

mintmark · September 2018

Just a bit concerned because we have one feedback thread saying "let's streamline everything by removing free potions and treasure that only give you gold" and another feeedback thread saying "look at this improved professions system where you use gold to pay your workers, like, all the time."

I'm sure both teams have designed it all together and it's all planned out...

ichimaruginx · September 2018

So, we get less stuff to sell for gold (those kits/pots etc we used to vendor if not used) and more expenditure? On top of taking the gold generation which is from leadership prior away. Would it come to a point where people are needing more gold than getting it, esp since that pots are tied inevitably to gold now without another means to obtain them?

What about the other stat boosting pots which are not sold? Will vendors now sell them or are they going extinct?

froger · September 2018

With number of junk items (treasure) being reduced, will their drop rate (quantity) remain the same? If I previously got three different items, will I now get three of the same item? Or one item?

wizardlvl80 · September 2018

Hi,

These changes are awesome, but you guys are taking away lots of gold sources. I often use gold for swaping my enchantments between my toons. Any other gold income you guys are planning on introducing?

xcessiveforce40 · September 2018

Sorry I do not agree with the changes in potions drops.

c3rb3r3 · September 2018

xcessiveforce40 said:
Sorry I do not agree with the changes in potions drops.

why ? I found it annoying because sometimes it was linked to rank 5 enchants, and I never used them.

I really like these QOL changes

adinosii · September 2018

This is a good set of changes....well, maybe with the exception of skill kits. The rest, yes....I'm happy with this.

dominious12 · September 2018

Bug: "Hidden Pouch" drops from Tyomora's lucky enchant do not auto-loot when you step on them.

noworries · September 2018

> @dominious12 said:
> Bug: "Hidden Pouch" drops from Tyomora's lucky enchant do not auto-loot when you step on them.

We didn't switch over all of the loot in the game to be walk over. If these changes go well we can expand it to more of our loot.

dupeks · September 2018

noworries#8859 said:
> @dominious12 said:

> Bug: "Hidden Pouch" drops from Tyomora's lucky enchant do not auto-loot when you step on them.

We didn't switch over all of the loot in the game to be walk over. If these changes go well we can expand it to more of our loot.

Why not? Would it be harder to do all loot?

It's just confusing if some loot but not others will function this way. I think you should go all in.

dominious12 · September 2018

It's an odd one to exclude considering all the other utility enchants drop loot straight to your bag.

vjarl · September 2018

Whoever came up with and implemented auto pickup will receive a sloppy, wet kiss from me if I should ever make it to the Cryptic offices. Warning delivered! Seriously, awesome QOL improvement!

Not sure if this is a bug or intended, but I did not auto pickup Hidden Pouches.

noworries · September 2018

> @dupeks said:
>
> Why not? Would it be harder to do all loot?
>

Yes, of course. The general loot is centralized in one place and easy to work on. The remaining stuff is scattered throughout the game in critters, maps, powers, miscellaneous tables and encounter templates.

This change allows us to see how this plays out and could be switched back to interact loot in a decent amount of time if needed. And if it plays out well then the rest of the rewards can start being tackled.

The real change to tymoras would also be to make it go directly into inventory.

pterias · September 2018

noworries#8859 said:
The real change to tymoras would also be to make it go directly into inventory.

Exactly this. Any and all drops from Utility enchants should go directly into inventory.

packrat0 · September 2018

Would it be possible to add an additional loot roll option so i can pass on trash gear, but still roll on refining items of the same quality?

Consider my username.
Now imagine how that will collide with the endless stream of green trash gear that will get picked up, with no stacking.

aimsies · September 2018

noworries#8859 said:
With the Heart of Fire update we made some adjustments to the general loot (loot dropped by the majority of critters regardless of zone).

Walk over loot - general loot now picks up simply by walking over it. Where applicable this will also trigger group loot rolls.
Reduced the number of junk loot items (items only worth gold such as platinum bowls) to 1 type per level range and also increased the stack size of junk loot to 100.
Potions, Skill Kits, and Portable Altars were removed from general loot drops and moved to the general vendors available in most zones and PE
Removed Gray and White gear from dropping in lower levels, the lowest rarity of gear that drops from critters is now Green.
Check out these changes on preview and let us know how they feel.

While it's great to have the walk over loot option, you JUST added in an option to pass on lower quality items so you didn't have to roll on it - this same threshold should apply to my own loot as I walk around. I upped my threshold because I don't personally feel the need to pick up every green item that hits the ground, nor do I currently have the bag space to do so. I generally avoid the green drops as often as possible unless I see it's a black pearl and those I choose to pick up. That said.. This is murder to people's inventory space.

Suggestion is to categorize all the gemstone type items (Peridots, Black Pearls, Aquamarines etc) as the auto pick up but please consider adding the personal threshold as the "auto-pick-up" threshold here as well.

I also don't like how when you loot the skill nodes it pops out everything in it for you to pick up separately, like the green insignias and peridots, but leaves the general treasure loot to manually hit the "f" key to pick it up. At first I thought I didn't get anything from the kit, but then noticed it jumped out around me. Again, personally not a fan of that particular mechanic.

onodrain · September 2018

Extended (alternate) leveling loot changed. You used to get a variety of items from opening your leveling bag. I assume it can still give you skill points, but it now only includes a random amount of RP and rAD. I think overall it is good, as that is mainly what people want. I open these bags during x2 enchants. Since it is RP and not gems, then I think it will no longer double the RP.

theycallmetomu · September 2018

Autopickup of green items wouldn't be an issue if identification wasn't a thing.

Since we have the "convert all to RP option" anyway.

Though, honestly, that makes you wonder why we even HAVE trash equipment drops. For levels 1-69 maybe it sort of makes sense because you occasionally get something vaguely usable, but even that would probably be better off being replaced by store bought items and profession leveling items.

We should just stop gear from dropping from mobs ENTIRELY, and replace those drops with RP/more gold. Stop with the pointless "Identify all. Refine all." slog.

draugkir · September 2018

lol another nerf.
There goes one of the major gold sources away.

M15: General Loot Drops

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