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I never said they didnt have monetary value. What I said is that you have a way to get them without spending any of your own money. A ton of people dont mind buying these keys, so for all of those people this is a complete non issue. But for those who dont want to spend their own money on keys, they still have a way to get…
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In PW's games you can trade a special type of in game currency for zen(the game store currency) which is used to buy lock box keys. This means you have a way to get lock box keys without spending any of your own money.
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Sorry, but I'm not going to give you a step by step guide to how I earn dilithium. However, how I earn dilithium is completely irrelevant to my actual point, which is that people will in fact have a way to get lock box keys without spending a dime of their own money. If you refuse to take advantage of that, then its your…
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You can only refine 8k per character. However since zen is account wide, you can cash in dilithium on all of your characters and it still pools into your account wide zen total.
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what I can tell you is that in STO you can buy a pack of 10 keys for 1,125 zen. Personally, I earn about 200 zen worth of dilithium every day playing about 1 hour total, so that is a total of about 6 hours of actual play time for 10 keys.
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Once again, since you will be able to trade special in game currency(astral diamonds) for game store currency(zen), that means you will be able to buy the lock box keys without spending any of your own cash money.
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Personally, I dont mind them because PW allows you to trade in game currency for game store currency, meaning you can buy lock boxes or keys or anything else in the game store without spending any of your own cash money. Bear in mind that just because I do not "mind them" does not mean I plan on purchasing any myself. But…
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I agree. As long as people are honest with themselves that no amount of begging or pleading will actually accomplish anything, then its all in good "fun". But if someone actually deludes themselves into believing that they can persuade PW not to sell lock boxes, then they would be setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Its sad that people think they can actually reason with PW and change their minds about this when it is so obvious they cant. PW stands to gain huge amounts of money from lock boxes, and there is no comparable substitute for that same amount of money that they can earn by not having them. As far as the legality of gambling…
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Just for clarification, who all are you speaking for when you say "we"? Perfect World? Cryptic? The other volunteer mods? Or your own personal opinion? I just want to clarify if everything you just said about how violence and the ESRB relates to this lock box discussion is official policy.
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Discussing whether lock boxes are gambling is ON topic. Discussing video game violence is OFF topic. Its pretty simple. So again, I request that a mode please delete the OFF topic posts about video game violence.
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Can a mod please delete the off topic posts talking about video game violence since this thread is about lock boxes?
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Saying "in my opinion" doesnt make something any nicer. Saying "in my opinion you are stupid" doesnt mean its not an insult, for example. So if people shouldnt call other people or their opinions naive, then they simply shouldnt do it period.
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He may have only been speculating, but absolutely no one from Cryptic of PW denied what he said was true. So if such a situation were to occur, his speculation would probably be accurate.
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They make so much money from lock boxes that they would rather lose customers where it is illegal than stop selling them: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/star-trek-online-dev-not-concerned-with-losing-global-playabilit/
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Debating whether lock boxes should be in NW is pointless because there is no doubt they absolutely WILL be. The simple fact is, they make a ridiculous amount of money, and at the end of the day that is really all that matters to PW. No amount of begging, pleading, or well reasoned posting will even begin to change their…