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  • Abbot's probably trying to find a way to throw a tax on the game.
  • Exactly. TR's depend on stealth - take it away and were dead. period. This whole thread sounds counter-intuitive.
  • Using CoS and jump kiting other melee classes was the only means of not getting stomped, prone and stuck locked into oblivion. As a class that's the most squishiest, next to CW's (extra dodges), having our mobility taken away is beyond idiotic.
  • I don't think that's a true indication that our PVE damage has or has not diminished. That was one mob, your whole team was attacking it, the mob was debuffed to oblivion and you and your teams enchants/gear still has to be taken into account (PF,Vorp,Terror). Nice dps tho (ツ)
  • Not sure what your ping is for this game, but I get around 300 - 400, but this happened post patch a lot and I do think it comes down to lag. I've popped ItC just before being stun locked or prone, it 'activates' and is on CD but you don't get your immunity. Since patch you can clearly activate ItC, have that black shroud…
  • 3k+ crit, 2200 armour pen, 3k+ power. Although next patch TR's will be chew toys in PvP.
  • PVP wise TR's will be useless, PVE wise we take a fair hit damage wise but were still needed in some dungeons.
  • Not gonna stop playing the TR class if the patch stays the way it is now, but im not doing PVP anymore that's for sure. GWF and GF's will be virtually unstoppable now.....well even more so. I think they should give us 10 CoS I've tried it on the test server and 8 just isn't enough. LA teleports you to the target alright,…
  • You got ripped off if you traded for a shirt. Its worth around 1.7mill but im sure its been undercut a fair bit now. A shirt is worth around 200k+ :/
  • Again abombination is on another thread spreading his taint about his uneducated, biased nonsensical BS. We are not the 'best' at everything - just you saying that shows you're a nub and have little to no knowledge of this class. Don't go around the TR threads saying this nerf was the best way to solve the perma-stealth…
  • Guess I'll start it off. Agreed perma-stealth build was a clever use of game mechanics and needed nerfing, but don't drag the rest of us rogues with them. +1
  • Sure perma-stealth needed to go but it doesn't justify the changes that have been made to the other rogue specs. "but rogues as a whole have to much.." To much what? Fixes for what? Adjustments to what? How about some examples.
  • If this was an attempt to nerf perma-stealth rogues then mission accomplished but don't drag the entirety of all the other rogue specs with it, like myself. If this was an attempt to nerf rogues as a whole, than they've gone about it wrong.
  • Yikes. Just read the patch notes (http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?414511-Patch-Notes-NW-5-20130714b-3) With lurkers being reduced so much, geared Sent. GF's and GWF are going to be an even bigger problem. I'm sure they're all jumping for joy seeing as none of them & their precious Tene's got any…
  • Exactly, people need to understand that's it not the class that's the issue, but Tenebrous enchantments. Matched with classes that run faster, take less damage, has more health and has prone rotations. This all makes for faceroll players where skill is no longer a factor
  • This is the problem, paired with a rotation that keeps you prone/stunned. GF's have been OP in PVP since open beta and maybe longer, just all the flak was towards TR's at the start & only now has the public really addressed the issue (with good reason).
  • Lurker's Assault + Lash = instagib with the right gear/stats
  • [QUOTE= Guardians have ALWAYS been OP. This guy figured that out since the game launched 2 months ago. It's just that only now, the masses have finally figured this out too and have rerolled to GF because they're the flavor of the month. GFs have 2 OP and broken armor sets (Stalwart Bulwark and Timeless Hero). They have OP…
  • As far as I've been told the reinforced' bracers are in all sets, its not a requirement to get the 4 set bonus as long as you get the normal bracer for that set you still get the bonus. I myself have swash and I still get the bonus even though I don't have the reinforced bracer
  • TR's in PVP are fine mate, your encounters rotation imo is outdated - Any rogue without ItC or Shadow Strike is easy prey for every class including other rogues. The 3rd encounter would be one of your choosing but I'd recommend Lash or Impact Shot. I would aim for 45% crit chance then stack armour pen till around 2,200 if…
    in TR's in PvP Comment by danttei June 2013
  • Simple....dodge - the more cloud hits you the more damage the next dagger does, within a certain time frame which is about 0.5 - 1 second, so dodge and get some distance. Learn how to play your class for goodness sake, rogues are the least of my worries in end game PVP - GF's/GWF with good build/gear are the new rogues.
  • That's a very interesting build she has. It looks like she has the Bilethorn enchantment that applies poison DoT's and her At-Wills do more damage.
  • First off I'm glad to say I've played all classes, gotten their pvp gear and spec'd them as best I can, with a little help from mates and guides. I can say for sure, that end game PVP rogues do NOT need a nerf they have a a set amount of dazes from which non of them root you in place, not to mention 'Dazing Strike' resets…
  • +1 I thought it was just me at first so I made a ticket about it, but then I saw a bunch of rogues with the same texture bug.