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xgrandz02
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Cryptic nerfed the leadership because of the AD,
Players can get now 400k AD per Hour through HE's IWD. lol
I thought you want reduced the AD not increase it,
The AD its overflowing already, why a second week?.
2-3Hour for 1 Mllion of Astral Diamond
I don't think this is how it should work.....
Players can get now 400k AD per Hour through HE's IWD. lol
I thought you want reduced the AD not increase it,
The AD its overflowing already, why a second week?.
2-3Hour for 1 Mllion of Astral Diamond
I don't think this is how it should work.....
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400k AD per hour... riiiight. The most I managed was ~75k points of RP per hour and I doubt you can get much higher than that. Also, by current prices that's lower than 150k AD and you're active all the time. Comparing that to leadership that only takes a few clicks a day is nonsense.
Also, what's your **** problem with this? They finally introduce a legit way to farm RP and you're asking to nerf it? Wtf is your problem?
you hit the nail on the head DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER
Any of you who sit there and assume the AH is going to be flooded with cheap RP again anytime soon are simply lazy and uninformed.
Better get your RP while you can, this is going bye bye with all this complaining, no doubt...
For every person you can show me who is complaining about this I can show you several dozen who love the rp , there isn't actually one legitimate complaint you can even point out lolol "all this complaining" , oh boohoo I'm a special snowflake and nobody else deserves to get gear as good as mine boohoo , is that the kind of complaint you are referring to?
Could you please explain to me how people running the he's for rp is adding ad to the game?
SHHH I've already made 10million AD. I need to get enough for a Strider. Then they can nerf it
i dont believe youve made 10 mil from selling rp alone.
+++1 to this
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Remember once when peridots sold for 150 AD each? Even with the price dropped over the last few days, they are still going for over 700 each in the AH. Let's say if RP that artifact gear can only use go back down to 0.3 AD per RP, then the income for ICW HE farmers will be cut to 45k AD an hour. If 45k AD an hour is still good and draw a bee line for the ICW HEs then price of RP will only go down more until supply and demand reach equilibrium.
my reason for that:
1. get easy abused
2. Bot's friendly
3. AD Overflow
4. Player gain too fast AD
5. AD Losing value
6. Players feel forced to Run HE's because of Profit
7. No time to do other thing than this
8. Legendary becomes common
9. etc.
some facts for example: icewind pass
A Run with 9x HE's can be terminated in 6min. (how crazy is it?)
I have nothing against the Refine for our own use,
But to making that amount of Profit of it,
its another question..
I ran a tracert and it is not my computer of my connection... it is the server.
I have had OVER 40 dc's this morning alone. Enough to make me walk away from the game for a few days. That is saying a lot because I can watch a slug crawl a mile... without losing patience.
Someone asked you that already but I guess that the question needs to be repeated: How that brings AD into the economy?.
The answer is simple: It doesn't.
Why, you may ask?. Let me explain how that works:
1. Someone farms HE's for RP - let's call that guy 'Lenny'
2. After many sleepless nights Lenny got into conclusion that he wants to sell his farmed RP
3. Lenny goes to AH
4. Lenny posts his farmed RP
5. Lenny awaits his profits...
Someone sees Lennys RP and wants to buy that. Let's call him Francis.
6. Francis sees Lennys RP and checks his AD
7. Through ie. Leadership/Skirmishes/Dungeons Francis had AD to buy himself Lennys AD
8. Francis buys said RP
9. Francis is happy because now he can get his MH to Legendary and can proceed to shove it into everyones faces
10. Lenny is happy because he made AD BUT said AD came from Francis who had it from Leadership/Skirmishes/Dungeons. It does NOT come from thin air.
I think that's a good thing considering time and mentality it eats away to farm enough to be BiS. Go ahead, create a new toon, get it to 70 and start farming HE's for RP then come back to us when you have orange MH/OH 4 artifacts and orange Neck/Belt. See you in around half a year!.
The point is, it's not gonna make everyone run in Legendaries from the get go. It will still take time, just more reasoneable amount than before.
Mk a lot of this propaganda needs to stop. It seems like the more and more I see these type of threats about the RP from HE's in IWP/DV it seems more and more people just want to be special little snowflakes. Just seems like some people (not all) that have the BIS gear want to stay that small little exclusive club. And the RP dropping from HE's closes that gap.
Why argue about getting something for free?
It also seems like people are floating around these theories in hope that the devs actually get rid of the RP in HE's.
The arguments I've seen so far about this are pretty crazy. Some people say it can become easy to abuse. How? People just run it 24/7? That's on them for that matter. It's an aspect of a game that the devs put in there. If running it over and over is considered abuse what about people that farm eTOS 2/3 bosses over, and over and over? What about when people would run nothing but PK during DD back in Mod5? Will you still say that's abuse? If so than people should just be locked out of dungeons after they run them once. Which wouldn't make sense.
The argument about bots...............Too many variables to take into account for. Too many man hours to code for it. Please stop this.
A person gaining AD too fast: You can gain AD "too fast" if you get a tensers disk.
AD losing value. This I'm not too sure about. Kinda seems like a greed vs what something is actually worth. AD will always have value as long as you have people that don't spend money in the game. And even when you do, it's still another mode of buying and spending. Case in point, look at gold. 800 gold for 1 GMoP.
No time to do anything else but farm HE's: It's two sides of a double edged sword. On one side who cares. The way the dungeons are now, how hard the mobs hit, how bosses STILL can hit one person for over a mil? How the final boss of eCC has a max starting health of 65 mil along with high armor penn and defense? At this point what does it matter if you don't run it anything else dungeon wise?
On the other side people that need to run the dungeons to get gear won't be able to. Hence limiting their chances to do anything else where people ask for 4k ilvl to run something. So it's either you farm RP and get your enchance,Artifact gear/weapons as high as possible. Or you run dungeons.
Legendary becomes common: This is that special little snowflake aspect I was talking about. Great job you have legendary. We saw this with people in mod5 having it and still were terrible at their class. So the worth went down there. It dropped further more when you realized after mod5 to mod 6 newer artifact gear was coming and the current artifact gear was unless. So for those that do upgrade to that great job. They know the risk though. So with this I ask, WHO CARES....
Again I restate, it seems like the people whining, the majority of them, are just people who want to hold on to their being unique, special, the only one that has. So to those people I say, the end of the world isn't coming, it's already here for you. (unless you happen to get that mount)
You make it sound like AD drops from HE.
You drop alot of assumptions and what us to belive it.
Get your facts right.
1. Rich ppl spend ad to get 1st rank so fast (Their way of getting ad is not only leadership or dungeon,skirmish, but also real money from zen and selling collector valuables too. and few profession tasks)
2. Easy to make new chars or alt chars to max. (Personally i have 7/9 chars and i made my main cw from tr long ago. I miss to play tr but it dont have a **** gear. With farming IWD i can make alts rank 70 and i can take my time for fun than stucking on only cw)
3. We all want some special items for desire which needs ad (Personally Tender Disk; which is **** expensive.So why not i spend my hours and sell its work.Getting a disk is lower than %1.So why not spend my hours to get one?)
So that is a outright lie.
Furthermore.. is another erroneous thought that anyone bought BiS, they got it via cheap botted RP and have just rolled it forward.
These threads should be moved ASAP every time they come up.. they care clearly either
A. those who for some weird reason do not want others to farm AD.
or
B. Cheaters who are being hurt for not being able to sell botted RP on third part sites.
or
C. Previous cheaters via exploits, who for some weird reason do not like that people can farm RP again.
You can remove RP drops, WHEN they remove artifact gear.. otherwise, you have to have progression ability on it.
AD is less devalued now then its been in forever, because there is LESS ad being created and more AD sinks then ever.
Moving AD around in the AH via sales, only redistributes already created wealth and actually removes some AD from the economy.
If you wanted to make REAL ad , then mod 5 was king, I should've run 10000 dragon heralds honestly.. I stopped at like 1k.. because, well boring.
Eventually RP will be that way for me.. eventually I will just grow too bored to care about advancing things past epic ever.. because.. ya boring!
There is a small segment of people out there who for some WHACKED out reason cant stand RP dropping, I have my many theories as to why, but they will not obviously be honest to us about it.. so whatever.
I like this part and totally agree
Also i forget to mention one thing.
Module 6 was introduction of making ad by profession tasks completely at begining. It did not have any oppurtinity for newbeis to farm and get ad.
Or normal players who get item from dungeons and sell them;they did not have a way to gain ad at the very begining of Mod 6.
Now it does have a good way for newbeis to reach old players ranks before leaving game.
ok then : add free rp farm also in dungeons.
GO WITH THE MAJORITY OPINIONS.
Do NOT nerf the RP drop in IWD!!
It's was a perfect idea. It's that simple.
Thanks!!!
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