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if you look at most people complaining about HE drops ingame they are bis.

rebellionstuffrebellionstuff Member Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
edited June 2015 in PvE Discussion
fun fact: most of the people complaining about the rp drops are bis already and it appears they dont want others catching up. sorry snowflakes its happening and im gonna enjoy it while i can and save up as much as i can because i can finally make the progress in 1 day that took me weeks before.
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  • ph33rm3ph33rm3 Member Posts: 549 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Of course BIS are complaining. I'm one of them. It's taken me 2 years to get BIS. But at the same time I understand. This is a business. It needs $ to work. They need to bring players back.

    Unfortunately, I don't think it will work. A free Perfect Vorpal wouldn't bring my daughter back. In her own words she told me, "I don't want to. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I'll never catch up."

    The truth is. She will never catch up. She's right. I stopped badgering her. I know my daughter. She's done. No amount of free stuff is going to bring her back.

    The final straw for her was a hiccup on the zen order page. She tried to buy $20 of zen. The site lagged out. She tried again, and again. Turns out it worked the 1st time... and 2nd and 3rd. She was billed $60 in total. Shortly after spending ALL $60 of it buying AD with Zen. She couldn't even come close to leveling one Artifact. That was it for her. That's when she decided to quit. 2 weeks later she logged in for the last time.
  • rebellionstuffrebellionstuff Member Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2015
    ph33rm3 wrote: »
    Of course BIS are complaining. I'm one of them. It's took me 2 years to get BIS. But at the same time I understand. This is a business. It needs $ to work. They need to bring players back.

    Unfortunately, I don't think it will work. A free perfect vorpal wouldn't bring my daughter back. In her own words she told me, "I don't want to. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I'll never catch up."

    The truth is. She will never catch up. She's right. I stopped badgering her. I know my daughter. She's done. No amount of free stuff is going to bring her back.
    at first i thought your daughter had died i was gonna say im so sorry. but now i get it. i agree. its hard to catch up and with a life its not possible. but this is a start right? we all should have a chance to become bis eventually.
  • onegaki101onegaki101 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    ph33rm3 wrote: »
    Of course BIS are complaining. I'm one of them. It's took me 2 years to get BIS. But at the same time I understand. This is a business. It needs $ to work. They need to bring players back.

    Unfortunately, I don't think it will work. A free perfect vorpal wouldn't bring my daughter back. In her own words she told me, "I don't want to. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I start to get stronger. They add more stuff. I'll never catch up."

    The truth is. She will never catch up. She's right. I stopped badgering her. I know my daughter. She's done. No amount of free stuff is going to bring her back.

    Welcome to MMOs, it is a never ending quest :)
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    What is bis?
  • ph33rm3ph33rm3 Member Posts: 549 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Best in Slot
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    the whole mod point is wrong.
    they should do less mods with CONTENT and this would lead to less gear escalation.
    Instead we get a mod of dailies and gear. mod 4. was that really a mod?
    we get a mod with only tiamat and gear. mod 5. was that really a mod?
    we get another mod of dailies, same dungeons and gear. mod 6. was this really a mod?

    to sum it up we get near to nothing for 3 mods but we wasted 3 gear upgrades. Awful power creep for the sake of nothing.
  • k3ll0k3ll0 Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    urlord283 wrote: »
    What is bis?

    One use is as a suffix for model designation to signify a modification of the design; eg. Char B1 bis.
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Ive played lots of major mmos, in 6 months time, I could have 5-6 classes ready for t1 raiding.
    I could move 2-3 classes into t2.
    I could have 1-2 into pvp..

    Ive never seen a game progress to the point neverwinter has.. without some general resets to make a few things easier.. in fact THEY made things more difficult in mod 6 to catch up.. that is just so ANTI regular MMO practice that Ive seen.

    Of course those developers didnt make you get all the "permanent modifers" you only needed the ones for your class, so in same games they had 12 of these, you could get ten and fine, or 9 or whatever.. and chip away at the hard ones in between raiding or pvping.

    Most games have a general reset eventually allowing anybody to basically join and catch up quickly.

    You simply cannot keep adding progression without giving avenues to advance faster, or you might as well close the game down, a game is only as successful as the next hooked player, without new players.. it will dwindle and die.

    Thats just point A...

    POINT b, alot of these "so" called BiS got really cheap RP.. super cheap from unbound hoard botters. Dont you let them lie to you otherwise, so now we are finally allowing legit farmed RP back into the game..

    THERE is NO real right to complain about this... IT was much needed shot of rejuvenation.
  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    urlord283 wrote: »
    What is bis?

    I always read that as "black ice stuff". Whoops.
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  • rebellionstuffrebellionstuff Member Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2015
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Ive played lots of major mmos, in 6 months time, I could have 5-6 classes ready for t1 raiding.
    I could move 2-3 classes into t2.
    I could have 1-2 into pvp..

    Ive never seen a game progress to the point neverwinter has.. without some general resets to make a few things easier.. in fact THEY made things more difficult in mod 6 to catch up.. that is just so ANTI regular MMO practice that Ive seen.

    Of course those developers didnt make you get all the "permanent modifers" you only needed the ones for your class, so in same games they had 12 of these, you could get ten and fine, or 9 or whatever.. and chip away at the hard ones in between raiding or pvping.

    Most games have a general reset eventually allowing anybody to basically join and catch up quickly.

    You simply cannot keep adding progression without giving avenues to advance faster, or you might as well close the game down, a game is only as successful as the next hooked player, without new players.. it will dwindle and die.

    Thats just point A...

    POINT b, alot of these "so" called BiS got really cheap RP.. super cheap from unbound hoard botters. Dont you let them lie to you otherwise, so now we are finally allowing legit farmed RP back into the game..

    THERE is NO real right to complain about this... IT was much needed shot of rejuvenation.

    everyone needs to read this if you missed it the first time read it again here. very important and wise words here.
  • phoenix1021phoenix1021 Member Posts: 532 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The devs tried to reset power levels by devaluing gear, but did not devalue RPs, saved AD and other currency, boons and enchantments, so everyone who was BiS in mod5 is BiS again in mod6 already. Just that everything in game got much harder, so nobody can easily catch up anymore even in the old content. The IWD peridots won't change that at all.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Oh I don't mind you all jealous scrubs farming cheap RPs. After all, you still DO farm those like we did...well, I think most of players that didn't donate lots of cash did :)
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  • ph33rm3ph33rm3 Member Posts: 549 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Reduce difficulty. Raise it again in a later mod. I don't know why the developers REFUSE to fix the ONE thing driving away more players than anything else.
  • rebellionstuffrebellionstuff Member Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Oh I don't mind you all jealous scrubs farming cheap RPs. After all, you still DO farm those like we did...well, I think most of players that didn't donate lots of cash did :)

    lol i donated lots of cash. just not on rp. i spent it on char slots a account wide mount now i have 9 chars. and i got lesser enchants and thats about it. i spent like 60 bucks to get that. i enjoy what i got a lot. but rp is wasted money you invest and it gets devalued and i dont like that plus you gotta spend so much to get anywhere.
  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Oh I don't mind you all jealous scrubs farming cheap RPs. After all, you still DO farm those like we did...well, I think most of players that didn't donate lots of cash did :)

    Peridots used to be so cheap, I doubt many ppl farmed enough peri's to go from 0-mythic. More likely easy farmed AD then bought bottled peridots.

    "Like we did" - lies
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Im far from BIS only 2.1-2.2k, but i've played various MMO for over 10 years and from my experience releasing content in such way simply ruin the economy due to botting abuse. RP should've been granted via daily quests like in Sharandar and Dread Ring.
  • phoenix1021phoenix1021 Member Posts: 532 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    quspiv wrote: »
    Im far from BIS only 2.1-2.2k, but i've played various MMO for over 10 years and from my experience releasing content in such way simply ruin the economy due to botting abuse. RP should've been granted via daily quests like in Sharandar and Dread Ring.

    Indeed! Give us black opals for weeklies, sapphires for dailies/dungeons and an aquamarine in the lair chests. Remove stupid fey and hoard enchants or make them do something different. No more need for HE peridots, farming foundries and bots. But that is a dream that will never come true...
  • mrsmcsmithymrsmcsmithy Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Oh I don't mind you all jealous scrubs farming cheap RPs. After all, you still DO farm those like we did...well, I think most of players that didn't donate lots of cash did :)

    <3 people who think other people are jealous of their pixels , so super awesome!!! :D
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Ive played lots of major mmos, in 6 months time, I could have 5-6 classes ready for t1 raiding.
    I could move 2-3 classes into t2.
    I could have 1-2 into pvp..

    Ive never seen a game progress to the point neverwinter has.. without some general resets to make a few things easier.. in fact THEY made things more difficult in mod 6 to catch up.. that is just so ANTI regular MMO practice that Ive seen.

    Of course those developers didnt make you get all the "permanent modifers" you only needed the ones for your class, so in same games they had 12 of these, you could get ten and fine, or 9 or whatever.. and chip away at the hard ones in between raiding or pvping.

    Most games have a general reset eventually allowing anybody to basically join and catch up quickly.

    You simply cannot keep adding progression without giving avenues to advance faster, or you might as well close the game down, a game is only as successful as the next hooked player, without new players.. it will dwindle and die.

    Thats just point A...

    POINT b, alot of these "so" called BiS got really cheap RP.. super cheap from unbound hoard botters. Dont you let them lie to you otherwise, so now we are finally allowing legit farmed RP back into the game..

    THERE is NO real right to complain about this... IT was much needed shot of rejuvenation.

    I believe the 2x RP weekends and the 2X Exp weekends are their offers to help people catch up.
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    fantasycharacter wrote: »
    Peridots used to be so cheap, I doubt many ppl farmed enough peri's to go from 0-mythic. More likely easy farmed AD then bought bottled peridots.

    "Like we did" - lies
    Say whatever you want, I was dumb enough to buy those for 150k per stack back when I refined my lvl 60 equipment back in m5 :P
    mrsmcsmithy wrote: »
    <3 people who think other people are jealous of their pixels , so super awesome!!! :D
    Scrubs that think somebody is seriously ranting about cheap RPs <3
    I believe in your imagination veterans should not be happy about newbies getting geared? I assure you most of them ARE happy with that. Less undergeared pugs and bigger/happier data base overall. The hate some newbies pull towards vets however...
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  • zoiks100zoiks100 Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    dragoness10 wrote: »
    I always read that as "black ice stuff". Whoops.

    Wait it's not "Beast In Sack"? **** it! That means all those "Wow, nice BiS!" complements and "Not fair, stupid BiS!" complaints were just about my character's gear....

    I did always wonder why people I'd never met, in an online game would assume that about me though...
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  • mrsmcsmithymrsmcsmithy Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »

    Scrubs that think somebody is seriously ranting about cheap RPs <3

    I believe in your imagination

    <3 people who call random strangers on the internet names , genuine internet tough guy here , stand well back guys <3

    Oh btw it's you're <333 :D
  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Say whatever you want, I was dumb enough to buy those for 150k per stack back when I refined my lvl 60 equipment back in m5 :P

    .

    In your original you made it sound like you and everyone else farmed peridots, But you farmed AD (when it was easier to farm AD) to buy peridots. Just hoping to keep things accurate. ;)
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    mrsmcsmithy wrote: »
    Oh btw it's you're <333 :D

    No, that was the correct use of "your" as a possessive. "You're" means "you are", which makes no sense in that context. <3
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  • str8slayerstr8slayer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 715 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2015
    I been looking for this "cheap RP" everyone is bleating about, sure isn't any to be found on the AH...
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    mrsmcsmithy wrote: »
    <3 people who call random strangers on the internet names , genuine internet tough guy here , stand well back guys <3

    Oh btw it's you're <333 :D
    Well, in any case, your kind isn't any better overreacting and picking on someone's comment in an MMO when it wasn't obviously any serious, even after I said I am very OK with the new flow of RPs and that generalization "all players complaining about RP are bis" is plain ******ed. But no problem, you spend less time farming and more time typing into nothing.
    str8slayer wrote: »
    I been looking for this "cheap RP" everyone is bleating about, sure isn't any to be found on the AH...
    Well I think the meaning is everyone can go to IWD and farm those now easily. Plus we have new leadership tasks which give great ammount of RPs too.
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  • phoenix1021phoenix1021 Member Posts: 532 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    No wonder. It's been weeks since mod 6 release and they haven't even fixed all bugs yet, much less balanced the content to be fun again.
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